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False sorrow

January 2, 2013

America mourns the loss of 20 children and six adults, murdered by a pyschopathic killer. President Obama put on his best sad face for the American people....

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mikekerstetter

Jan-02-13 3:57 AM

Falls in with what I said the other day. Our nation is rightly shocked that 20 children and 6 adults were killed in a school.

But in this same nation the people who are so adamant about banning certain guns and accessories don't bat an eye at the 1.5 million children lost to abortion each year.

There is something wrong in our nation.

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Premier

Jan-02-13 5:24 AM

Yeah, you have a portion of our populous who have no problem killing innocent babies yet are totally against capital punishment for convicted murders.

And they call the other side radical and insane.

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wwhickok

Jan-02-13 6:55 AM

This letter was written by somewhat of an idiot. First of all, Obama, that I've seen, has yet to talk about banning all guns, just semi-auotmatic military style/assault rifles and rapid load magazines which a previous ban has expired upon. Secondly, to suggest NO extra precautions should be taken, that 'all is fine' makes you just as guilty as Adam Lanza. Yep, I just said that. We do need stricter gun laws, no we do not need to ban them all together. But stricter gun laws can only provide additional security, there is nothing wrong with that. When someone buys a gun they should have to not only submit themselves to a background check and psychological assessment, but they should have to submit the identies of anyone in their household and those individuals should have a background check and mental analysis done on them as well. Because then we'd be hitting on the real issue; Mental Health. Guns shouldn't be allowed to be kept in homes that house 'mentally disturbed' individual

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andy33

Jan-02-13 6:57 AM

Dream on Virgil....dream on...

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wwhickok

Jan-02-13 6:58 AM

By no means and am I saying that perfectly sane, non-criminal background individuals should be disallowed to own guns, but they shouldn't be allowed to own a gun that is kept in the home of a mentally unstable individual. It's a precaution. Metal Detectors, Armed Security, arming the Principal, longer waiting periods to do more thorough background checks (on ALL guns), etc. I think the implentation of all of these things add much needed extra precautions. But they are just that, precautions, will they solve anything? unfortunately there is only one way to find out, criminals are criminals for a reason, they'll still get guns if they want guns. How to handle that issue is another real problem. But to say nothing should be done which is basically what this letter sounds like, is pure idiocy.

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andy33

Jan-02-13 7:01 AM

WW writes:" have a background check and mental analysis done on them as well. Because then we'd be hitting on the real issue; Mental Health. Guns shouldn't be allowed to be kept in homes that house 'mentally disturbed' individual...."

Yep...and I know of those that fit this description....and guess what...they have guns...lots of them....yep, we're all safe here in Williamsport!

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wwhickok

Jan-02-13 7:58 AM

Andy, I agree completely that 'current owners' are part of the issue, which is why I also believe current gun owners, ALL current Gun Owners should be subject to Psychological Evaluation with refusal to cooperate resulting in removal of guns from possession. For those who 'fail' the evaluations I believe their gun ownership rights should be revoked. What is deemed failing? That's not really for me to decide since I'm not a Pyschiatrist or anything of that sort. Doesn't seem fair? Neither does what happened to all the people in CT, Columbine, Aurora, etc due to mental instability.

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CMReeder

Jan-02-13 8:13 AM

The insanity continues from the right and gun owners.

Gun are used to kill. Women have no rights and we can legislate their vaginas. Teachers are not capable to have collective bargaining but you can place a gun in their hands. You mourn the loss in Newtown by holding a gun in one hand and a Bible in the other.

You know bamks that are large have armed guards, Companies who transfer money do so in armor vehicles and with armed guards. Those banks get robbed and guards have been overpowered and killed.

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spike2

Jan-02-13 8:23 AM

wwhicock - I agree completely. No need for me to comment.

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rick424

Jan-02-13 8:26 AM

"President Obama put on his best sad face for the American people...."

If he didn't you would complain about that also

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DavidBross

Jan-02-13 10:15 AM

Lots of sweeping statements in this letter. Each of them has some value. But, they do overstate/overlook some points. For example,"The only possible way to stop this killing would have been a well-trained person such as a principle to be armed and kill the shooter when it started." This is one way, but not the only way. And this idea can have unintended consequences. Also, the author stated, "Obama wants to disarm America, allowing him to take control. You willing sheep that support him are as guilty as he is." We all support individuals who do things we disagree with.

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JohnZook

Jan-02-13 11:27 AM

I don't listen to the Liar-in-Chief anymore, but I'll bet he was "deeply saddened", a phrase all presidents use. It's all politics to these guys, a performance for the next approval poll. I may be a right wing extremist, but the blind following the master will still be smiling when the ax comes down on their neck. The only saving grace is that our grandchildren will have no idea what real freedom and prosperity was. They'll only know serfdom and poverty. THEY are the ones who'll be living in the new Amerika.

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SteelerFan

Jan-02-13 12:10 PM

No matter the law, if a wacko wants to kill someone, they are going to find a way to do it. All you self-righteous liberals think we need is another gun law and all will be good. Grow up.

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wwhickok

Jan-02-13 1:01 PM

Steelerfan, you're right if someone wants a gun they'll find a way to get one. But you're wrong about people thinking 'another law will fix it all'. I personally however believe, as I've stated numerous times, if you have the ability to take a precaution, you should do so. Within reason of course because I do not think we should ban all guns, though I am in favor of banning military/assault style semi automatics.

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SteelerFan

Jan-02-13 1:11 PM

ww, I'm not saying we need another law. We have enough already. The left thinks the answer is always to have more federal laws. No matter how you define an assault weapon, there will be a way to skirt any law banning them.

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SteelerFan

Jan-02-13 1:14 PM

I honestly thought the President was saddened by the Newtown murders. That being said, the situation fits right in with Rahm's slogan, 'Never let a crisis go to waste'.

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mikekerstetter

Jan-02-13 1:31 PM

Premier-"Yeah, you have a portion of our populous who have no problem killing innocent babies yet are totally against capital punishment for convicted murders."

Wow, all I can do is shake my head at that comment.

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mikekerstetter

Jan-02-13 1:32 PM

In agreement, of course.

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enigma

Jan-02-13 3:38 PM

DavidBross,"We all support individuals who do things we disagree with."

Are you saying that you disagree with the idea of banning weapons?

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enigma

Jan-02-13 3:43 PM

wwhickok,"I do not think we should ban all guns, though I am in favor of banning military/assault style semi automatics."

So you're in favor of violating the constitution, but only to a certain extent. That's like saying that you don't want to outlaw all speech, just the speech that you disagree with, or that searches without a warrant should be allowed it the authorities don't have any evidence but think they might find something. Our rights are lost a little at a time and people like you are just willing to give them up that way.

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richardson

Jan-02-13 4:26 PM

Want to feel real sorrow? For the 10,000 gunned down and killed in Cook County the last 20 years. Want feel real fear? When the rest of the country has gun laws as strict as those in Chicago.

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CHayes

Jan-02-13 7:49 PM

I really am starting to wonder how much more of this stupidity the Republican party can handle. Today Speaker Bohner got SAVAGED by members of his own party over kicking Sandy relief down the road.

The Republican party is in such disarray, and dominated by such lunacy, it's almost hard to imagine them being competitive in 2016.

I'm starting to feel sorry for some of my more reasonable Republican friends.

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Ritty77

Jan-02-13 8:21 PM

The House needs to do what it can to cut spending. The $60 billion pork-laden Sandy relief bill will be broken into two parts.

The first, a nine-billion dollar emergency relief bill will be drafted in the house and passed by both chambers soon.

The rest will be properly debated, not rushed through. This second bill contains all the pork (to be eliminated) and Sandy relief slated for later dispersal anyhow.

The GOP/Conservatives get blamed for everything anyhow. Might as well do the right thing.

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rmiller

Jan-02-13 9:48 PM

Excellent letter Virgil!

It was an opportunity for Obama (like hundreds of others) that he used. He seized the moment and not only intruded upon the families and friends of the lost ones, but to maximize a political hot seat over bodies that hadn't even been lowered into the graves was the lowest of low.

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rmiller

Jan-02-13 9:52 PM

"Guns shouldn't be allowed to be kept in homes that house 'mentally disturbed' individual."

I'm assuming you want guns out of the White House then...with talking about guns around the "mentally disturbed"..... right?

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