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Global Warming

January 2, 2013

What is global warming? Before you answer this question, consider the following questions....

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mikekerstetter

Jan-05-13 6:31 AM

Joe, I understand the process, I just don't trust the theory behind it. Too many assumptions.

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JosephOtto

Jan-04-13 8:25 AM

The way I understand it they look for things that vary with the seasons in a consistent manner. Once such markers of seasonal variations are found, they can be used to find the number of years that an ice-core sample accumulated over. This is indeed analagous to the counting of tree rings. Once the layers are identified the ice can be analyzed to determine the chemical composition of the environment at that time; CO2 levels, etc.

I'm sure thats very over-simplified but I think thats the general idea.

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mikekerstetter

Jan-04-13 3:55 AM

CHayes-"Well, the oldest trees are a few thousand years old, but there are ice deposits on earth that are tens of thousands of years old, so my answer would be tens of thousands of years."

And where are the records that document the 'ice deposits' have existed tens of thousands of years? Give me facts that can be proven, not theory.

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CHayes

Jan-03-13 10:24 PM

"How long have weather records been kept?"

Well, the oldest trees are a few thousand years old, but there are ice deposits on earth that are tens of thousands of years old, so my answer would be tens of thousands of years.

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LaughIn

Jan-03-13 3:48 PM

Plastics=Diapers

Why, why, why and why? Somethings are beyond theories to be figured out. The human mind will always try to figure out questions beyond nature and who is one to try and disprove things beyond comprehension to that simple fact? No question is dumb and as long as we have questions we have people thinking up a storm.

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wwhickok

Jan-03-13 12:48 PM

I am a believer in global warming, however, I also agree that there has been significant changes in climate. I do not believe that it is a 'completely natural occurance.' And I'm plenty awake.

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mikekerstetter

Jan-03-13 11:54 AM

JerryfromRI-"The ice age lasted 100,000 years, plus or minus a few thousand."

Who was around to witness it? As I said, I don't have faith in the theory used to estimate it. There is just no concrete evidence to support it, only theory.

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CMReeder

Jan-03-13 11:37 AM

It is not a try it's the truth.

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philunderwood

Jan-03-13 11:20 AM

The politics of man caused global warming or climate change is settled, but the true science isn’t by any means.

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SteelerFan

Jan-03-13 10:25 AM

USABorn: 'Hey Steeler.........Speaking of Al Gore, did you see where he sold out his TV business to Al Jazeera? Real American....... NOT!!!!'

didn't see that but not a surprise. btw, every time ole Al opens his mouth, global temps go up.

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gavinf56

Jan-03-13 10:10 AM

Nice try Chuck, but no dice.

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CMReeder

Jan-03-13 10:07 AM

Sorry Gavin all you found was someone who supports you view. We all have them. There were scientists who believed as this scientist believes and further investigation proved them to be wrong and they admitted to it.

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gavinf56

Jan-03-13 9:22 AM

There are many others, I just picked the one with the best credentials and who has no other conflicting interest other than getting the facts out there.

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CMReeder

Jan-03-13 9:09 AM

So you found a scientist who believes as you do. There were others who did and were hired to discredit global warming and after they finished their research found that man does have a hand in the global warming that is happening.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Jan-03-13 8:49 AM

"if carbon is generated by the use of fossil fuels, trees and leafy plants absorb the carbon and release the O2 molecules which we breathe. So.... if we plant the entire world in plants and forests, we solve the global warming problem."

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That would help but it doesn't fit with the agenda of the radical environmental capitalist that want to create an economic market of carbon credits/trading, make money off alternative energies (ethanol, wind, solar, etc), and control the populations so they can pad their pockets.

They are leveraging off the state governments that want more tax revenues and pass carbon tax credits to feed their treasuries.

They get support from the true environmentalists that want to reduce mankind's impact and pollution to the earth.

They get support from foreign governments that want to reduce the USA economy so they in turn can grow their own economies.

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prouddad

Jan-03-13 12:48 AM

I'm admittedly off-topic, but this "Ice Age" talk begs the question: Has anyone walked across the Market Street Bridge in recent days? I can appreciate how difficult it must be to keep the highway clear after winter storms, but shouldn't the municipalities involved also keep pedestrians in mind? As of Wednesday night, the walkway was a mess of dangerous ruts of ice and snow, nearly impassable in most sections without tiptoeing, and likely to remain 'til March. I can't help but think that a homeowner who left his sidewalk in similar condition would not escape consequences.

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USABorn

Jan-03-13 12:40 AM

SteelerFan - 4:09 PM

"enigma, we know for a fact that it's global warming because Al Gore says so."

Hey Steeler.........Speaking of Al Gore, did you see where he sold out his TV business to Al Jazeera? Real American....... NOT!!!!

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USABorn

Jan-03-13 12:36 AM

wwhickok - 6:39 AM "Fact is, at some point in time, our sun WILL burn out, at which point this 'earth' will cease to be of use."

Yes, I read where the sun will only last another BILLION years.

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rick424

Jan-03-13 12:26 AM

I give up Bobbie how many?

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LaughIn

Jan-02-13 9:56 PM

We as a species have evolved to recycle the old, because our landfills are packed with man made plastics. However, the bacteria are are still producing a lot of stinky methane.

@johnzook, your thought is very interesting. Are we responsible? Only one question, are we as good at replanting trees as we are at chopping them down?

What about that greenhouse effect - nah, that is 'science fiction'.

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gavinf56

Jan-02-13 8:59 PM

In the US, we have already reduced our CO2 emissions to early 1990 levels, which was one of the goals for the US of the Kyoto Accord (which we never signed).

As far as the "true conservative" comment below, I have been using CFL lightbulbs for nearly 10 years and last year converted the lights we use most over to LED's.

My heat source is renewable wood pellets.

6 of my last 7 vehicles got/get better gas mileage than Mr. Reeder's current vehicle.

For true Conservatives, conservation isn't just a fad, it's a way of life.

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gavinf56

Jan-02-13 8:50 PM

I think your 19 out of 20 figure is a bit high, but yes a majority of scientists believe global warming is caused by man.

For one of those scientists who are a skeptic of that Leif, Google "Roy W. Spencer Ph.D"

He has a rather impressive resume;

"Roy W. Spencer received his Ph.D. in meteorology at the University of Wisconsin-Madison in 1981. Before becoming a Principal Research Scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville in 2001, he was a Senior Scientist for Climate Studies at NASA’s Marshall Space Flight Center, where he and Dr. John Christy received NASA’s Exceptional Scientific Achievement Medal for their global temperature monitoring work with satellites. Dr. Spencer’s work with NASA continues as the U.S. Science Team leader for the Advanced Microwave Scanning Radiometer flying on NASA’s Aqua satellite. He has provided congressional testimony several times on the subject of global warming."

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JerryfromRI

Jan-02-13 7:47 PM

@mikekerstetter

The ice age lasted 100,000 years, plus or minus a few thousand.

The "global warming" claim is that two hundred years of industrial revolution combined with planet wide deforestation have created an over abundance of CO2 in the atmosphere which is trapping sun's heat, slowly but steadily raising the average temperature.

19 out of 20 climate scientist agree it's a man made problem. The stand outs say its likely man made but not conclusive. There are no legitimate climate scientists who state it is definitely not man made.

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mikekerstetter

Jan-02-13 6:46 PM

JerryfromRI-"The "science" isn't even in dispute anymore - just what is causing it."

Jerry, I don't think any of us have ever said we don't believe or climate is changing. That would be foolish. Our climate is always changing. I personally don't believe that our climate is changing out of it's 'normal' range and I don't think we are doing anything that significantly changes it. I base my opinion on the fact that accurate records are at most 150 years old and I don't have faith in the theories used for 'studies' of the earths climate where no records exist.

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JerryfromRI

Jan-02-13 5:27 PM

The "science" isn't even in dispute anymore - just what is causing it.

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