John, I agree. I believe there simply isn't enough concrete evidence to back up global warming. Or is it 'climate change' now? Back in the 80's they were telling us an ice age was coming. Could it be like Mayan calendar?
Not enough evidence to back up Global Warming? This is the first time since 2002 we've had a white christmas, over the last 10 year or so, it has gotten warmer and warmer during the fall and 'winter months' at the end of the year. This year, it was nearly 70 at times in October and early November. But the letter has valid points. Fact is, at some point in time, our sun WILL burn out, at which point this 'earth' will cease to be of use. The 'space program' is about finding a new, inhabital planet, because they KNOW this. I suspect this is something that won't happen for thousands of years, but I am not a scientist, so I can't even begin to speculate a true opinion on that.
Gun control, abortion, now global warming. Funny how we differ so much on important issues. I feel global warming is real, wether man made or not. We should do all we can do to not make it worse. Using NG for our buses is a start, I just wish there was a safer and more environmentally friendly way to get it out of the ground.
The deniers will not see anything. Like all true conservatives they are not to blame for anything it is somebody else. They are like that frog in the science experiment. Place a frog in a pot of boiling water and it will jump out. Place a frog in a pot and start to heat the water they will stay and be cooked. They don't think there is anything wrong except of course the government.
What I don't understand, besides Reeders comments, is if carbon is generated by the use of fossil fuels, trees and leafy plants absorb the carbon and release the O2 molecules which we breathe. So.... if we plant the entire world in plants and forests, we solve the global warming problem.
Hey Shempp, I watched another Shemp in the 3 Stooges marathon yesterday, and he is definitely much smarter than you are. Probably better looking too. n'yuk n'yuk
"There can be little doubt that the earth's climate is changing, the debate is over how much of it can be attributed to mankinds activities."
There is also the argument of whether it's necessarily a bad thing, overall. If it's happening, we'll need to adapt because there's nothing we can do about it.
wwickok,"over the last 10 year or so, it has gotten warmer and warmer during the fall and 'winter months' at the end of the year."
That's not what the data says. Global temperatures reached a high in the mid 90s and have been cooling since. Why do you think that the "scientists" now call it climate change instead of warming? Of course they count on us to forget that it's supposed to be caused by the warming that's not longer happening. How many of you remember the coming ice age scare in the 70s and 80s? and it was also caused by burning fossil fuels. Isn't it funny that everything that happens is bad and it's caused by burning oil and coal? Wake up!
JerryfromRI-"The "science" isn't even in dispute anymore - just what is causing it."
Jerry, I don't think any of us have ever said we don't believe or climate is changing. That would be foolish. Our climate is always changing. I personally don't believe that our climate is changing out of it's 'normal' range and I don't think we are doing anything that significantly changes it. I base my opinion on the fact that accurate records are at most 150 years old and I don't have faith in the theories used for 'studies' of the earths climate where no records exist.
The ice age lasted 100,000 years, plus or minus a few thousand.
The "global warming" claim is that two hundred years of industrial revolution combined with planet wide deforestation have created an over abundance of CO2 in the atmosphere which is trapping sun's heat, slowly but steadily raising the average temperature.
19 out of 20 climate scientist agree it's a man made problem. The stand outs say its likely man made but not conclusive. There are no legitimate climate scientists who state it is definitely not man made.
I think your 19 out of 20 figure is a bit high, but yes a majority of scientists believe global warming is caused by man.
For one of those scientists who are a skeptic of that Leif, Google "Roy W. Spencer Ph.D"
He has a rather impressive resume;
"Roy W. Spencer received his Ph.D. in meteorology at the University of Wisconsin-Madison in 1981. Before becoming a Principal Research Scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville in 2001, he was a Senior Scientist for Climate Studies at NASA’s Marshall Space Flight Center, where he and Dr. John Christy received NASA’s Exceptional Scientific Achievement Medal for their global temperature monitoring work with satellites. Dr. Spencer’s work with NASA continues as the U.S. Science Team leader for the Advanced Microwave Scanning Radiometer flying on NASA’s Aqua satellite. He has provided congressional testimony several times on the subject of global warming."
In the US, we have already reduced our CO2 emissions to early 1990 levels, which was one of the goals for the US of the Kyoto Accord (which we never signed).
As far as the "true conservative" comment below, I have been using CFL lightbulbs for nearly 10 years and last year converted the lights we use most over to LED's.
My heat source is renewable wood pellets.
6 of my last 7 vehicles got/get better gas mileage than Mr. Reeder's current vehicle.
For true Conservatives, conservation isn't just a fad, it's a way of life.
We as a species have evolved to recycle the old, because our landfills are packed with man made plastics. However, the bacteria are are still producing a lot of stinky methane.
@johnzook, your thought is very interesting. Are we responsible? Only one question, are we as good at replanting trees as we are at chopping them down?
What about that greenhouse effect - nah, that is 'science fiction'.
obama's campaign focused on the moron demographic, he succeeded with 51% of voters. How many believers in man made global warming voted for Romney? I rest my case.
mikekerstetter
John, I agree. I believe there simply isn't enough concrete evidence to back up global warming. Or is it 'climate change' now? Back in the 80's they were telling us an ice age was coming. Could it be like Mayan calendar?
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JerryfromRI
The polls are skewed.
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wwhickok
Not enough evidence to back up Global Warming? This is the first time since 2002 we've had a white christmas, over the last 10 year or so, it has gotten warmer and warmer during the fall and 'winter months' at the end of the year. This year, it was nearly 70 at times in October and early November. But the letter has valid points. Fact is, at some point in time, our sun WILL burn out, at which point this 'earth' will cease to be of use. The 'space program' is about finding a new, inhabital planet, because they KNOW this. I suspect this is something that won't happen for thousands of years, but I am not a scientist, so I can't even begin to speculate a true opinion on that.
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JerryfromRI
@wwhickok
You're wasting your time, their minds are closed. Their world will always be forever flat.
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idiottwo
if we only had addressed global warming sooner, dinasours would still be with us and continents arranged diferently.
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rick424
Gun control, abortion, now global warming. Funny how we differ so much on important issues. I feel global warming is real, wether man made or not. We should do all we can do to not make it worse. Using NG for our buses is a start, I just wish there was a safer and more environmentally friendly way to get it out of the ground.
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CMReeder
The deniers will not see anything. Like all true conservatives they are not to blame for anything it is somebody else. They are like that frog in the science experiment. Place a frog in a pot of boiling water and it will jump out. Place a frog in a pot and start to heat the water they will stay and be cooked. They don't think there is anything wrong except of course the government.
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jeff33
Global Warming is coming from all the oil we burn from the Middle East.
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gavinf56
There can be little doubt that the earth's climate is changing, the debate is over how much of it can be attributed to mankinds activities.
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JohnZook
What I don't understand, besides Reeders comments, is if carbon is generated by the use of fossil fuels, trees and leafy plants absorb the carbon and release the O2 molecules which we breathe. So.... if we plant the entire world in plants and forests, we solve the global warming problem.
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SteelerFan
Hey Shempp, I watched another Shemp in the 3 Stooges marathon yesterday, and he is definitely much smarter than you are. Probably better looking too. n'yuk n'yuk
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mikekerstetter
Sorry, didn't go far enough. What I meant is that I don't believe we are seeing anything out of the norm in the swing of the natural climate.
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Ritty77
"There can be little doubt that the earth's climate is changing, the debate is over how much of it can be attributed to mankinds activities."
There is also the argument of whether it's necessarily a bad thing, overall. If it's happening, we'll need to adapt because there's nothing we can do about it.
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enigma
wwickok,"over the last 10 year or so, it has gotten warmer and warmer during the fall and 'winter months' at the end of the year."
That's not what the data says. Global temperatures reached a high in the mid 90s and have been cooling since. Why do you think that the "scientists" now call it climate change instead of warming? Of course they count on us to forget that it's supposed to be caused by the warming that's not longer happening. How many of you remember the coming ice age scare in the 70s and 80s? and it was also caused by burning fossil fuels. Isn't it funny that everything that happens is bad and it's caused by burning oil and coal? Wake up!
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SteelerFan
Hey Shemp, we have 6 Super Bowl victories, how many do you have? Try Charmin.........
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SteelerFan
enigma, we know for a fact that it's global warming because Al Gore says so.
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rick424
The CEO of Exxon says it is so and we will have to adopt. What more proof do you need.
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JerryfromRI
The "science" isn't even in dispute anymore - just what is causing it.
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Bobbie2
Rickie "we will have to adopt"
But the Russians won't allow us to adopt now.
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mikekerstetter
JerryfromRI-"The "science" isn't even in dispute anymore - just what is causing it."
Jerry, I don't think any of us have ever said we don't believe or climate is changing. That would be foolish. Our climate is always changing. I personally don't believe that our climate is changing out of it's 'normal' range and I don't think we are doing anything that significantly changes it. I base my opinion on the fact that accurate records are at most 150 years old and I don't have faith in the theories used for 'studies' of the earths climate where no records exist.
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JerryfromRI
@mikekerstetter
The ice age lasted 100,000 years, plus or minus a few thousand.
The "global warming" claim is that two hundred years of industrial revolution combined with planet wide deforestation have created an over abundance of CO2 in the atmosphere which is trapping sun's heat, slowly but steadily raising the average temperature.
19 out of 20 climate scientist agree it's a man made problem. The stand outs say its likely man made but not conclusive. There are no legitimate climate scientists who state it is definitely not man made.
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gavinf56
I think your 19 out of 20 figure is a bit high, but yes a majority of scientists believe global warming is caused by man.
For one of those scientists who are a skeptic of that Leif, Google "Roy W. Spencer Ph.D"
He has a rather impressive resume;
"Roy W. Spencer received his Ph.D. in meteorology at the University of Wisconsin-Madison in 1981. Before becoming a Principal Research Scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville in 2001, he was a Senior Scientist for Climate Studies at NASA’s Marshall Space Flight Center, where he and Dr. John Christy received NASA’s Exceptional Scientific Achievement Medal for their global temperature monitoring work with satellites. Dr. Spencer’s work with NASA continues as the U.S. Science Team leader for the Advanced Microwave Scanning Radiometer flying on NASA’s Aqua satellite. He has provided congressional testimony several times on the subject of global warming."
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gavinf56
In the US, we have already reduced our CO2 emissions to early 1990 levels, which was one of the goals for the US of the Kyoto Accord (which we never signed).
As far as the "true conservative" comment below, I have been using CFL lightbulbs for nearly 10 years and last year converted the lights we use most over to LED's.
My heat source is renewable wood pellets.
6 of my last 7 vehicles got/get better gas mileage than Mr. Reeder's current vehicle.
For true Conservatives, conservation isn't just a fad, it's a way of life.
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LaughIn
We as a species have evolved to recycle the old, because our landfills are packed with man made plastics. However, the bacteria are are still producing a lot of stinky methane.
@johnzook, your thought is very interesting. Are we responsible? Only one question, are we as good at replanting trees as we are at chopping them down?
What about that greenhouse effect - nah, that is 'science fiction'.
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Bobbie2
obama's campaign focused on the moron demographic, he succeeded with 51% of voters. How many believers in man made global warming voted for Romney? I rest my case.
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