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January 7, 2013

I can’t believe that the city would require residents to clean out around the fire hydrants in the city....

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CaymanJim

Jan-07-13 2:01 AM

Seems to me the piece of ground from the street side of a sidewalk to the curb is considered city property, and, therefore, only the city has the responsibility to keep hydrants free of snow and ice.

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Tgrammiex4

Jan-07-13 4:04 AM

I don't think the city expects 80 yr olds to shovel them out, but there are alot of non working able bodied younger people who could roll out of bed before the crack of noon and do it. If it's left to city workers/fire personnel you know taxes will be raised to cover the cost.

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mikekerstetter

Jan-07-13 4:23 AM

I don't know a number, but there has to be thousands of fire hydrants in the city. It could take weeks for city firemen to dig them out. While one shouldn't expect the elderly or disabled to shovel out a fire hydrant, you would also think that residents would want the hydrant accessible if there was a fire at their house. It only takes a couple minutes to shovel it out while you are there.

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brallas

Jan-07-13 5:01 AM

No one expects the elderly to shovel snow period. Hopefully they have kind neighbors or relatives who shovel for them. When they do, they should take a few minutes to clear around the hydrant. This would save precious time should the firefighters have to use that hydrant to save your home or even possibly save your life. I shoveled my hydrant several times this past week, I didn't think of it as a bother...I thought of my property and others around me.

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VinceKnauff

Jan-07-13 5:57 AM

That 80 year old person must have sidewalks to shovel too. How do they get that done? The hydrant is done when the walks are shoveled by whomever is doing the shoveling. Was it that hard to figure out?

Apparently very little thought was put into this letter by the author.

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wwhickok

Jan-07-13 6:11 AM

To VicKnauf - A Snowblower

More importantly, people should be getting cited for being too lazy to shovel their sidewalks; When we got snow, the elderly couple to the left of me had a snow blower, they did their own walks, however the elderly couple two houses down from me; next to them did help with the shoveling of their walks also. I shoveled my own walks and the walks of the neighbor on the otherside who is an elderly woman. However, ONE house chose not to shovel their walks as that snow turned to ice. Ever heard of common courtesy and respect? Probably not is my guess. As far as the fire hydrants..really? Are you really whining because you've got to take an extra 20 seconds to shovel out something that in all is about 3 feet around? The one thing I wish the city would change is how often they plow. During and after that storm initial the city streets were really bad and covered in icy, slippery snow. The city clearly hadn't plowed or salted, reaction time was slow.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Jan-07-13 6:15 AM

If you don't want to have to shovel snow from your fire hydrant, move south.

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rick424

Jan-07-13 7:11 AM

Agree Texas, move south. When I grew up in Williamsport there was a hydrant on the corner, it was a given to clean around it.

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BornHere

Jan-07-13 8:11 AM

Even in the south you are responsible to remove grass or weeds around hydrants.

Our city codes requires that residents are responsible for keeping fire hydrants and storm sewer drains cleared at all times and the city is responsible for maintaining the hydrants and drains for any damage.

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wwhickok

Jan-07-13 8:31 AM

"Even in the south you are responsible to remove grass or weeds around hydrants.

Our city codes requires that residents are responsible for keeping fire hydrants and storm sewer drains cleared at all times and the city is responsible for maintaining the hydrants and drains for any damage."

I admit, I didn't actually know that the citizens were responsible for clearing the weeds, I'm not actually sure that there is even a hydrant all that close to my house, can't say I've looked. But I still don't see it as an issue. The people complaining about this 'issue' are probably the type of neighbors none of the rest of us would really want to live next to. They kinda strike me as lazy, disrespectful *******es. But then again I don't know any of you personally.

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THERICK

Jan-07-13 8:34 AM

Does it take alot of time to dig out the fire hydrant? No,but the fireman could go out and dig them out also. I give them credit for the job that they do, but come on. Instead of sitting at the fire house when there are no calls get out there and earn your pay.

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wwhickok

Jan-07-13 8:50 AM

The one thing I will say about this however in a negative regard is that as far as raising taxes, what would the justification be? The snow is free of charge and they should already have the necessary tools to shovel it. The weeds, that just requires their hands. So IF the fire company was handling these issues, there would be no purpose or justification for raising taxes. However, regardless of a need for them to 'earn their pay' I'd rather them be in or at the fire house running drills, getting prepared, training, etc. I think that is a more valuable way to the city for them to earn their money. I'd rather have a prepared, well trained fireman than one who is tired from shoveling snow and pulling weeds.

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BornHere

Jan-07-13 9:04 AM

wwhickok..I really don't pull any weeds, I spend less than 30 seconds using a spray bottle full of vinegar, it's so much easier than shoveling.

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CMReeder

Jan-07-13 10:12 AM

Hope your house does not becomes engulf in a fire and you have to wait for the fire department to shovel out the hydrant.

Not only are you required to keep the snow clear around the hydrant but you have to keep the grates for the runoff clear also.

You also have to keep your sidewalks clear of snow.

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stacey21

Jan-07-13 11:30 AM

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wwhickok

Jan-07-13 12:05 PM

"wwhickok..I really don't pull any weeds, I spend less than 30 seconds using a spray bottle full of vinegar, it's so much easier than shoveling" same difference, and yes me too. But I'd love to hear from the people who clicked all those disagrees and hear WHY you disagree. I'd love to hear you explain why you think it's NOT better for them to be training and drilling and keeping themselves 'alert and prepared' for fires. I get that until the real thing happens you can't truly prepare for the real thing but the fact is they should be prepared and their 'skills' should be the best possible. When your house burns down...are you going to blame the fire company for not shoveling the walks or the hydrants out? or are you going to say to yourself "dang I should've taken the 5 minutes.."

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stacey21

Jan-07-13 12:56 PM

Therick I assure you the firemen were out several days and nights digging out hydrants. Due to manpower cuts in the last decade I believe the Chief was asking young able bodied men to take some extra swipes at the hydrant while shoveling walks. There are a lot of hydrants in the city and very few firemen.

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spike2

Jan-07-13 2:44 PM

Do people not live in neighborhoods where everyone has a snow blower (or nearly)? All the men on my street do the sidewalks, if you get out first, you do your neighbors. Is clearing hydrants really this difficult?

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FormerEastEnder

Jan-07-13 2:51 PM

When i did live in East End, the corner hydrant was a 'given' to be cleared out when we shoveled..and that included the street area in front of it as well.. clear down to the asphalt and curb.. what is the matter with doing it?

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nobud74

Jan-07-13 6:06 PM

No, Spike it isn't that tough. Too many soft whiny lazy people that always want someone else to do the work or pay. When I lived in the city we just did it and didn't even think about it. But that was 20 years ago. Things change.

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Ritty77

Jan-07-13 6:15 PM

Shoveling out a fire hydrant near one's home requires two qualities in a person: common sense and a little ambition. Americans are losing these qualities more and more each day.

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nobud74

Jan-08-13 12:16 AM

Yup

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wwhickok

Jan-08-13 6:13 AM

Ritty I agree. But there's mainly two reasons for that.

1) No ambition/no job/no life (pretty much the same thing all around)

2) All people wanna do know is sit at home and*****up welfare and complain that they aren't getting enough tax payers to pay for their lazy arses.

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wwhickok

Jan-08-13 6:15 AM

Heck, I bet 40% of the city is jobless and collects welfare. (I'd say 50%, but the other 10% is people who've gotten laid off and have no other choice). The rest of them do it by choice. Hate to say it but a lot of them live between 5th Ave and Hepburn St too.

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CMReeder

Jan-08-13 9:12 AM

There are people who can't get their noses out of their social media gadgets, are you including them among the lazy?

You know if you next to an elderly person help out with the shoveling. If there is a hydrant in the neighborhood shovel it out even if it is not on your property. The fire hydrant is located on the property next door I shovel it out for mny protection. What happen to taking intiative? Intiative has nothing to do with economic level, political party or laziness.

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