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When Pennsylvania?

January 9, 2013

Now that Michigan has done it, when will Harrisburg (our local legislators) initiate Pennsylvania to be a right to work state? Thomas T....

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CMReeder

Jan-09-13 8:06 AM

They are jumping off the Market Street Bridge in Michigan, you want to do that too?

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SteelerFan

Jan-09-13 8:18 AM

As much as we need to be 'right-to-work', this Governor doesn't have the stones to introduce it.

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spike2

Jan-09-13 10:03 AM

Corbett can't lose any more support. he's already bleeding and has an election coming up.

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JohnZook

Jan-09-13 10:04 AM

Is Harrisburg ready for the influx of the goon squad from all over the U.S. to trash our Capital and threaten our non-union supporters? Are we ready for our businesses to be threatened for non-support of unions? All this will be good for the economy but if you want it, be ready for Michigan all over again.

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CHayes

Jan-09-13 10:51 AM

Yes! Just what we need in PA. A law to allow right wing free riders to benefit from the services of a union in the workplace, without having to pay for it.

First wingers go berserk against a healthcare mandate, that will require them to have health insurance, so they will maybe stop using ER's as their primary care, then skating on the bill forcing taxpayers and other patients to pay their tab, now this.

When will Republicans start to show some personal responsibility, and start supporting people paying their own way for the services they receive?

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CMReeder

Jan-09-13 11:54 AM

You do know Bobbie that the police in Philly are union.

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SteelerFan

Jan-09-13 12:35 PM

Just more left-wing diatribe from Hazy

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philunderwood

Jan-09-13 1:15 PM

Employees have the right to belong to a union and they have the right to vote for a closed shop. Business owners should have the right to decide if they want to have their employees represented by a union.

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idiottwo

Jan-09-13 1:18 PM

Many union folks have benefits and wages that are excessive. They just are. And if those similar wages or benefits were passed to all, the economy would collapse. People, including Union members would never pay for such. Incent hard work and reward achievement and success. That is the ticket. Don't reward gaming the system and threats to get more money or benefits.

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CHayes

Jan-09-13 3:53 PM

"Employees have the right to belong to a union and they have the right to vote for a closed shop. Business owners should have the right to decide if they want to have their employees represented by a union."

Why is it that you can't understand Phil that the second idea trumps the first. They are mutually exclusive. The second excludes the first completely.

You cannot possibly say that people have a 'right" to belong to a union, but their bosses can override that 'right" with the waive of a hand. That isn't the way a "right" works. People don't have the 'right" to belong to a union unless NOBODY can take that away from them, but themselves through a vote.

It's ridiculous. It's like saying that people should have a "right" to not be thrown in prison without charge, UNLESS a politician says otherwise. That sir, is NOT a right, it's a whim.

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philunderwood

Jan-09-13 6:40 PM

Are you saying that employees have rights but employers have no rights?

The rights of employees to form a union and the rights of employers to accept or reject unionization of their employees isn’t contradictory, many employers prefer to negotiate with a union instead of negotiating with individual employees. There was a time when unions provided training and other benefits to employers. If employees want a union and the employer doesn’t, the employees can simply find a unionized place to work. I know that during my working years I preferred to work in non-union environments, but that was just my preference.

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CHayes

Jan-09-13 11:56 PM

"Are you saying that employees have rights but employers have no rights?"

I'm not saying that at all. You seem to be saying though that an employer doesn't "have any rights" if he/she can't 100% dictate how their employees negotiate their pay.

Again Phil, you can't just stand there and say that people have a "right" to be in a union, but businesses can just shut down the desires of their entire workforce on a whim. That is NOT a right. A "right" is something NOBODY can take away from you.

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CHayes

Jan-10-13 12:01 AM

"If employees want a union and the employer doesn’t, the employees can simply find a unionized place to work."

Under what you said, that's ridiculous. There isn't a business in the entire county that would actually want their employees to be in a union, and actually be on an equal footing with the employer in pay negotiations.

Then of course there's the whole issue that the ONLY time in the private sector that employees would even consider voting to unionize, is one where they are being treated very unfairly by their employer. An employer like that would NEVER approve the workers right to defend themselves.

It's stupid Phil.

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philunderwood

Jan-10-13 6:31 AM

The stupidity comes from those failing to comprehend that rights apply to everyone, not just the ones in progressive’s victim groups.

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