Gun control suggestions

Aw, c'mon...be fair. Those cops (typically) SWEAR they see metal, flashing, before they blow-away those "minority" youths!!!!--Shammy

uhh, Mr. Troll, those deaths are caused by illegal guns and mostly youth killing each other. You really are a turd.

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Not knowing Bobbie or Mr. Hilfirty, I don't have a dog in this hunt. But isn't it irresponsible to pin a comment on a criminal case that's more than two years old? I honestly don't know the disposition of those charges, but it seems that fairness would beg the question.

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Hilfilthy "....Especially for paranoids...and, we CERTAINLY wouldn't want to restrict paranoids' access to guns!!!!!!! "

"A Williamsport man was arrested early Thursday morning after allegedly pointing a loaded handgun at his wife during a disturbance at the couple's home. Police say 68-year-old John Hilfirty, allegedly told his wife he would shoot her as he pointed the weapon at her about 5:40 a.m."

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"I'm all for that, Terry, but when at home, especially at night, the gun needs to be real handy." - Ritty77

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....Especially for paranoids...and, we CERTAINLY wouldn't want to restrict paranoids' access to guns!!!!!!!

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"What about a Tax Credit for purchasing a gun Vault to secure the firearms?" - ghTerry

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That makes TOO-much sense!!!!!!!!

HERETIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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"The fact is that the "assault gun" shootings are vivid but the most damage is done by the handgun deaths of 13k-15k mostly "minority" youth." - nobud74

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Aw, c'mon...be fair. Those cops (typically) SWEAR they see metal, flashing, before they blow-away those "minority" youths!!!!

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Good letter!

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According to the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC), in 2012 the American murder rate was just 4.8 per 100,000 people. Providing perspective, Honduras suffers the world’s highest murder rate at 91.6 per 100,000, with El Salvador second at 69.2. Venezuela, that gun-banning socialist paradise, stands at 45.1 per 100,000, and other nations that effectively prohibit firearms are also of a different magnitude than the United States. Mexico’s murder rate is 22.7 per 100,000, Brazil’s is 21.0, vacation destination Costa Rica’s is 10.0 and police state North Korea is at 15.2. Even European nations Greenland (19.2), Lithuania (6.6), Estonia (5.2) and Ukraine (5.2) exceed the American murder rate, as do Asian Thailand (4.8) and Indonesia (8.1). In all, the U.S. stands 104th in worldwide murder rate, "

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You may well be right, but how many people are killed in other countries by other means? A knife is the preferred method in many Asian countries. Blunt objects here kill more people than "assault rifles" so we should ban your Louisville Slugger?

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I'm pretty sure the number of people killed in Chicago so far this year, was about 20 more people than will be killed by guns all year in the UK. And what exactly does.that say about us?

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" 27 homicides in Chicago so far this year committed by people who have no intention of obeying current or future laws."

And how many of those people were killed with guns that came from IN, a short 45 min jaunt from Chicago?

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True.

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It would create a bigger incentive for the people who don't have a vault. No different than the energy ( windows, furnaces, hybrid cars) incentives. Only a tax credit... not reimbursment. The number of people who do not own a vault by far out number the ones that do. And you have to admitt... this would secure a lot more firearms than anything else.

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Why do we need a tax credit? I agree that a gun safe is a great idea and if you need immediate access to a handgun there are biometric gun safes. Perhaps if we held people accountable for firearms that were not secured and then stolen we would have less theft. I see the carrot approach, but we also need the stick, don't we?

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True. But the safe is more for "When your away".

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I'm all for that, Terry, but when at home, especially at night, the gun needs to be real handy.

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When is everyone going to wake up... I think some regulations can be adjusted. But remember, "All" the regulations will only work for law abiding people. Criminals would care less... Here's a question I have.... What about a Tax Credit for purchasing a gun Vault to secure the firearms? This would keep the children safer and the criminals from steeling them. At least make it a heck of a lot harder to take them. This is just my opinion... Most people I know do not have a gun safe, yet this would secure a lot more firearms.

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sideliner-"My point exactly. Responsible owners of assault weapons are major targets of theft. Get them off the street. No one ever should own one."

Here is my point... ASSAULT WEAPONS ARE ILLEGAL IN THE U.S. So just what the h e double toothpicks are you banning?

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Hey, Ritty, at that rate, they'll break last years numbers--go Chicago!!!

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27 homicides in Chicago so far this year committed by people who have no intention of obeying current or future laws.

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We are not going to see gun bans, there is not enough support for that in Congress. We are going to see mandatory background checks on all firearms purchases in all states and there will likely be, and should be, a sharing of mental health records that relate to the safety of gun ownership. The fact is that the "assault gun" shootings are vivid but the most damage is done by the handgun deaths of 13k-15k mostly "minority" youth. We will still be able to buy and own AR15s and other "scary" guns. There will also likely be a national registry coming in the not too distant future. Some of these are good ideas, some are not. But, the illegal gun trade will continue despite all these efforts. So all the screeching back and forth really means nothing.

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"These idiots on the white house think they can change whatever they want." - mazmdm

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Hmmmmmmmm...the LAST folks, who were "on the white house", JUSTIFIED "preemptively" striking...got a LOT o' young-Americans killed...and, did so without NEARLY as much flak as the folks (presently) "on the white house".

Why's that...I mean...besides skin-tone??

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"Alright, allow me to take a step back here, clearly I've gotten a little riled up. I don't want to become the next Shaman...no one wants that." - wwhickok

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Yeah...considering BOTH sides, of whatever-issue, typically requires more EFFORT (and, maturity) than the average person is capable of expending.

You're excused.

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"The argument about mandatory "mental health" screenings to be done at the time of a gun purchase raises some questions in my mind. How are they to be accomplished? Will a highly trained psychologist/psychiatrist be present by the gun counter at all gun shops and big box stores?" - CaymanJim

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I'm guessing it's the customers history that'd be in-question...whether-or-not that person has BEEN treated for emotional/psychological-issues. A-far-as psychological-testing, police-departments conduct those, all-the-time, for people attempting to join "the force". Inconvenience (as an excuse for NOT testing) seems a "little" absurd!!!

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"Why is it that people who know nothing about guns think that they are qualified to decide which guns are "not necessary" for private citizens to own. Here's one for you. If the police can use it, then it should be legal for private citizens. A country in which the police have rights the average citizen does not is a police state." - enigma

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So...your preference is anarchy; every man for himself??

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