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January 20, 2013

Sen. Feinstein should recall how the Nazis utilized firearm registration to confiscate guns in 1938 and later imprisoned and slaughtered millions of Jews and dissidents....

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DavidBross

Jan-21-13 7:03 PM

"What deters power-seeking egotistic American politicians from becoming dictators? Eighty five million gun owners, 8 million with concealed carry permits, and three million with AR-15 semi-automatic rifles exercising their Second Amendment right." I thought the point of weapons was to secure the right to vote. We have had the right to vote for an expanding percentage of our citizens since the late 1700s. If having the right to vote for over 2 centuries hasn't been sufficient to guide our country, then I don't have much confidence in guns guiding our country for the next 200 years.

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CHayes

Jan-21-13 6:53 PM

That just isn't historically accurate. I recommend you check out the article I mentioned from that communist rag the "Fordham Law Review".

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mikekerstetter

Jan-21-13 6:17 AM

CHayes-"So it's an infringement that you have to register to vote?"

Apparently it's only an infringement if you have to prove your identity to vote. At least according to the left.

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CarlHiller

Jan-21-13 6:01 AM

CHayes - 11 November 1938 The only laws Hitler loosened were for the Nazi party only! Typical of those of the left, you only see and hear the parts you want to believe. In Germany, Jewish extermination began with the Nazi Weapon Law of 1938, signed by Adolph Hitler, that required police permission of ownership of a handgun. Hitler also enacted the “Regulations against Jews’ possession of weapons” within the days of Kristallnach, when stormtroopers attacked Jews and the Synogogues throughout Germany. So the massacre of people began with gun laws, period.

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CHayes

Jan-20-13 11:20 PM

"You don't think that registration "infringes" on a right"

So it's an infringement that you have to register to vote?

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CHayes

Jan-20-13 11:20 PM

"CHayes - Once again you can be proven to support and profess a lie, either by your own stupidity or by outright lieing."

Don't know how to break this to you Carl, but the German govt passed an all out ban of firearms, and began confiscating weapons in 1919.

If the Nazi's allowed people to classify guns as "sporting weapons", and keep them, then that was a LOOSENING of restrictions.

Go read the article

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JerryfromRI

Jan-20-13 4:56 PM

Registering can not infringe on your right to own a firearm you already own, because you already own it. There is no constitutional protection against inconvenience.

If registering somehow prevented you from buying the firearm that would be different.

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JerryfromRI

Jan-20-13 4:19 PM

Registering need not be any more inconvenient than background checks.

There is no protected right to secret gun ownership.

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enigma

Jan-20-13 2:59 PM

JerryfromRI, As it is presently configured the background check does not infringe on rights. When a person commits a felony and shows that they cannot be trusted to be a good citizen, they lose some of the rights of citizenship. Among them is the right to bear arms. As long as the background check is meant to keep convicted felons from buying guns, it is permissible. It is an inconvenience for law abiding citizens, but it would probably pass the Constitutional test. Because we have background tests, it makes the idea of registration that much more abhorant, because noone and legally purchase a gun unless they are a law abiding citizen. BTW you are wrong, registration is an infringment.

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JerryfromRI

Jan-20-13 2:36 PM

@enigma

"You don't think that registration "infringes" on a right."

No. I don't. Not in anyway at all. NONE.

Does the background check "infringe" too?

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enigma

Jan-20-13 2:16 PM

JerryfromRI,"There is no Constitutional protect for "secret" gun ownership."

You don't think that registration "infringes" on a right. Would you agree to having to submit everything you say to the government? The "right to privacy" that liberals believe they have apparently applies to everything except guns. Why is it that liberals can read all kinds of rights into the Constitution that are not there, but they can't seem to see one that is written in plain language.

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CMReeder

Jan-20-13 10:24 AM

What an idiot!

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JerryfromRI

Jan-20-13 9:45 AM

@rick424

"I am absolutely convinced the right is delusional."

The next big Congressional battle is going to be about whether they are going to pay themselves. I kid you not- you just can't make this stuff up.

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Ritty77

Jan-20-13 9:06 AM

Good letter, Mr. Emick.

Obama has issued his executive orders and soon Feinstein will introduce her bill in the Senate. Her bill is DOA in both Houses.

The House will probably pass a bill that closes the "Gun Show loophole" including language about mental health. They might limit magazine capacity, as well, but that will be the extent of it.

Time to move on; there's a budget to write.

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rick424

Jan-20-13 7:57 AM

I am absolutely convinced the right is delusional. I wish PA would pass legislation to allow gay marrage, that way we could talk about that for a few months.

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CarlHiller

Jan-20-13 7:12 AM

For more on the "myth" read the Laws and Regs passed by Hitler. Hitler did "effect total gun control" but only for the Jews, and only after he had been in power for several years. For the rest of the population he relied on laws already in place. To focus exclusively on gun control is to lose sight of the larger picture. The Nazis controlled EVERYTHING. Sounds familiar, doesn't it?

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CarlHiller

Jan-20-13 7:04 AM

CHayes - Once again you can be proven to support and profess a lie, either by your own stupidity or by outright lieing.

Nazi Weapons Act of March 18, 1938

Classified guns for "sporting purposes". All citizens who wished to purchase firearms had to register with the Nazi officials and have a background check. Presumed German citizens were hostile and thereby exempted Nazis from the gun control law. Gave Nazis unrestricted power to decide what kinds of firearms could, or could not be owned by private persons. The types of ammunition that were legal were subject to control by bureaucrats. Juveniles under 18 years could not buy firearms and ammunition.

This was the beginning.

Gun Control Law Passed by the German Government One Day After Kristallnacht

Regulations Against Jews' Possession of Weapons

11 November 1938 The only laws Hitler loosened were for the Nazi party only!

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CHayes

Jan-20-13 6:56 AM

For more on this myth, please read the scholarly article "On Gun Registration, the NRA, Adolf Hitler, and Nazi Gun Laws: Exploding the Gun Culture Wars", that appeared in the Fordham Law Review in 2004.

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CHayes

Jan-20-13 6:52 AM

"Nazis utilized firearm registration to confiscate guns in 1938"

That's a lie. The Nazi's LOOSENED strict gun regulations that were put in place in 1919. So the NRA/right wing position for loosening gun regulations, is similar to Hitler's postion.

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JerryfromRI

Jan-20-13 4:51 AM

There is no Constitutional protect for "secret" gun ownership.

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twinder

Jan-20-13 1:13 AM

It's been reported by New York news outlets that the legislatures rush to enact new gun restiction laws has now placed practically every law enforcement officer in the State in violation of the new law. Now they have to go back and "fix" the law.

Maybe it's time for some mental background checks on all lawmakers in this country.

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