It's not the criminals that I am worried about, though gun shops are robbed quite often (as we've seen in this area) as well as private residences.
What concerns me are the legal weapons easily accessible by those with an agenda, as we've seen in Newtown and Aurora. Access to these weapons was available to these shooters prior to them becoming law breakers.
It was just too easy for them to do what they did. We need legislation that will stop any citizen from possession high capacity clips that are meant only to save reload time. Who is in that big of a hurry? And if you need that many shots to kill a deer, you better find another sport.
Mike, I am not trying to "punish" anyone. I just cam't seem to think of protecting the public by limiting the types of deadly force weapons they have as a form of punishment. My surprise is that you do...
Shooting a 100 rounds per minute makes me feel like a man, I am trying to find a gun in my price range that will shoot a thousand rounds per minute with red, white, and blue tracer bullets.
gavin, they weren't criminals while they had easy access to the guns, which is my point. They had no record of criminal behavior or mental illness.
So how does one prevent this from happening again? How do we predict when the Lanza's of the world will cross the line from non-criminal with access, to getting that access, then shooting everybody in sight, and only at that point become the criminal we need to watch out for? Your argument makes no sense in this context.
sideliner-"Mike, read my first post again where I clearly address your concern."
Actually, no you don't. You want to punish me by not allowing me to purchase a large clip. I've done nothing wrong, don't plan on doing anything wrong, but because of a handful of criminals you want to punish me and millions of other legal gun owners by restricting our access to certain currently available weapons and accessories.
"Sideliner, why are you so h ell bent on punishing those of us who have committed no crime and have no intent of committing a crime?"
Oh yes, all the "law abiding citizens" that talk so much about the need to violently overthrow our freely elected govt, and say things like, if gun control goes "one inch farther, I'm going to start killing people".
Or maybe you mean all the "responsible, law abiding citizens", that allow their guns to be stolen, at a rate of around one theft per week, according to a former city police officer that had a letter in the paper a few days ago.
Or maybe you mean the "law abiding citizens", like my neighbors, that a few months back, according to my other neighbor, allowed 4-5 children ages about 4-10, sit in their yard UNSUPERVISED with a BB gun, randomly firing it off into our neighborhood, hitting 2 cars parked in our street. Too bad it wasn't an AK47.
If you keep a firearm in your house, you and everyone in your home, including children, are about 3 times more likely to be killed or injured by a gun, than someone that doesn't have a firearm in their house.
You know, there's no way to stop people from speeding, so we should lift all speed limits, and just let people drive at whatever speed they want, wherever they want. That'll solve the problem.
Guys, you’ve got to remember that big government control freaks always believe that something must be done to make them feel better; whether it makes sense, will do any good, or have negative consequences is irrelevant. It’s all about emotions, not critical thinking.
There is a good one.... Chris wants a ban on BB guns now. I think mine holds a couple hundred shots in the magazine. I'll bet you liberal morons are all giddy about the Mount Carmel school district suspending a 5 y/o girl for telling her friends that she would shoot them with her Hello Kitty Bubble Gun when they got home.
Tgrammiex4
Finally, common sense prevails,LOL.
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Francine
And therein lies the fundamental problem with gun control. It's not Criminal Control. It's just not.
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sideliner
It's not the criminals that I am worried about, though gun shops are robbed quite often (as we've seen in this area) as well as private residences.
What concerns me are the legal weapons easily accessible by those with an agenda, as we've seen in Newtown and Aurora. Access to these weapons was available to these shooters prior to them becoming law breakers.
It was just too easy for them to do what they did. We need legislation that will stop any citizen from possession high capacity clips that are meant only to save reload time. Who is in that big of a hurry? And if you need that many shots to kill a deer, you better find another sport.
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mikekerstetter
Sideliner, why are you so h ell bent on punishing those of us who have committed no crime and have no intent of committing a crime?
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mikekerstetter
And yes, I agree with the letter writer.
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sideliner
Mike, I am not trying to "punish" anyone. I just cam't seem to think of protecting the public by limiting the types of deadly force weapons they have as a form of punishment. My surprise is that you do...
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sideliner
"those of us who have committed no crime and have no intent of committing a crime"
Mike, read my first post again where I clearly address your concern.
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gavinf56
"It's not the criminals that I am worried about...."
"What concerns me are the legal weapons easily accessible by those with an agenda, as we've seen in Newtown and Aurora.", aka criminals.
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ToTEXASfromPA
Anybody who thinks criminals will obey stricter [ ] laws is a special kind of stupid.
You can insert a variety of words between the [ ]; I know that Rick424 would want to insert the word traffic or pollution.
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Don521
Shooting a 100 rounds per minute makes me feel like a man, I am trying to find a gun in my price range that will shoot a thousand rounds per minute with red, white, and blue tracer bullets.
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sideliner
gavin, they weren't criminals while they had easy access to the guns, which is my point. They had no record of criminal behavior or mental illness.
So how does one prevent this from happening again? How do we predict when the Lanza's of the world will cross the line from non-criminal with access, to getting that access, then shooting everybody in sight, and only at that point become the criminal we need to watch out for? Your argument makes no sense in this context.
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gavinf56
I wasn't making an argument I was pointing out the problem with your argument. a criminal is a criminal.
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gavinf56
random acts of gun violence are extremely rare. You have a better chance of hitting the lottery than getting caught in a random act.
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mikekerstetter
sideliner-"Mike, read my first post again where I clearly address your concern."
Actually, no you don't. You want to punish me by not allowing me to purchase a large clip. I've done nothing wrong, don't plan on doing anything wrong, but because of a handful of criminals you want to punish me and millions of other legal gun owners by restricting our access to certain currently available weapons and accessories.
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CHayes
"Anybody who thinks criminals will obey stricter gun laws is a special kind of stupid."
Are they as stupid as the kind of person that actually think their home is safer with guns in it?
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mikekerstetter
sideliner-"Your argument makes no sense in this context."
And neither does taking away the rights of millions of honest people because a handful might use an AR-15 or high capacity magazine for harm.
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CHayes
"Sideliner, why are you so h ell bent on punishing those of us who have committed no crime and have no intent of committing a crime?"
Oh yes, all the "law abiding citizens" that talk so much about the need to violently overthrow our freely elected govt, and say things like, if gun control goes "one inch farther, I'm going to start killing people".
Or maybe you mean all the "responsible, law abiding citizens", that allow their guns to be stolen, at a rate of around one theft per week, according to a former city police officer that had a letter in the paper a few days ago.
Or maybe you mean the "law abiding citizens", like my neighbors, that a few months back, according to my other neighbor, allowed 4-5 children ages about 4-10, sit in their yard UNSUPERVISED with a BB gun, randomly firing it off into our neighborhood, hitting 2 cars parked in our street. Too bad it wasn't an AK47.
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CHayes
If you keep a firearm in your house, you and everyone in your home, including children, are about 3 times more likely to be killed or injured by a gun, than someone that doesn't have a firearm in their house.
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rick424
There are too many guns in this country for criminals to have. What is so hard about that? Talk about stupid.
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CHayes
You know, there's no way to stop people from speeding, so we should lift all speed limits, and just let people drive at whatever speed they want, wherever they want. That'll solve the problem.
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CHayes
I'm honestly surprised I haven't heard Republicans call for a tax cut to curb violence yet.
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rick424
We should ban cars.
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philunderwood
Guys, you’ve got to remember that big government control freaks always believe that something must be done to make them feel better; whether it makes sense, will do any good, or have negative consequences is irrelevant. It’s all about emotions, not critical thinking.
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USABorn
"Anybody who thinks criminals will obey stricter gun laws is a special kind of stupid."
You mean as in DUMBama and Biden???
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mikekerstetter
There is a good one.... Chris wants a ban on BB guns now. I think mine holds a couple hundred shots in the magazine. I'll bet you liberal morons are all giddy about the Mount Carmel school district suspending a 5 y/o girl for telling her friends that she would shoot them with her Hello Kitty Bubble Gun when they got home.
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