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Hypocrisy

January 23, 2013

During President Obama's press conference in response to the brutal murders of elementary school students at Newtown, Conn., he appeared to show much emotion and may have shed a tear or two....

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mikekerstetter

Jan-23-13 3:54 AM

True that.

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Tgrammiex4

Jan-23-13 5:21 AM

These days there are little excuses for an unwanted pregnancy.Other than forced rape, ignorance, laziness there are several forms of birth control and for many it is free.( there's always that abstainence thing too)Too many use abortion as a form of birth control.Rape, incest and jeoparedy of the mother's health I can understand. It's that whole taking responsibility for your actions thing again.

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Tgrammiex4

Jan-23-13 5:22 AM

*jeopardy

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sideliner

Jan-23-13 5:49 AM

Good point, Francine. Until Roe v Wade is overturned Obama and every other successive president will have nothing to do with the legalization of abortions. It is what it is.

LTE: "he voted to permit infanticide."

Webster's definition if infanticide: the killing of an infant

A fetus is not an infant. Period.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Jan-23-13 6:07 AM

"At what age does a murdered child need to be before President Obama sheds any tears?"

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Well we have seen him display tears for an elementary age child. I feel certain that he would do the same for younger. But face it, he got re-elected in a large part due to the women's vote and much of that was his stance on abortion. So my answer would be at the 100% complete emergence from the womb in an alive state.

The unborn are a stepping stone in his rise to power. And further when he ends his Presidential oath with "so help me God", it makes me sick. Maybe he is really meaning "so help me god" where god refers to himself, George Soros, etc.

Okay, I have cast our President in a negative light but the bigger issue here is the unborn. Pray for and support a constitutional amendment to overturn Roe v Wade.

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MrShaman

Jan-23-13 6:42 AM

The only HYPOCRISY is (even) the CONCEPT that males have some kind o' "Divine Right" to insist THEY know what's "best", regarding the issue of abortion.

Until males START becoming pregnant, they need to mind their own-damned-business!! This issue should be decided by FEMALES...ONLY...the individuals who are DIRECTLY impacted by THEIR decisions!!!

I've YET to meet any males who'd allow "some woman" to tell THEM what they were "allowed" to do with THEIR bodies.

"conservatives" need to limit their need, for a Patriarchy, to where it belongs...their "house-of-worship".

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Tgrammiex4

Jan-23-13 7:06 AM

Mr. Shaman, would you feel the same if your mother had decided to get an abortion? It takes 2 to create a baby so I don't think men should be completely excluded from opinions on this.Why is it you feel that it's ok for a man to have no choice in this but it's ok for a woman to make this choice for the baby?

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Tgrammiex4

Jan-23-13 7:38 AM

Francine, I think with many it falls somewhere in the middle. There are legitimate reasons IMO such as rape, incest and the mother's health.I think many are against it being used as birth control. I don't think they'll ever overturn it or ban it completely.There's no way to allow it for some reasons but not others.

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Premier

Jan-23-13 8:09 AM

"I've YET to meet any males who'd allow "some woman" to tell THEM what they were "allowed" to do with THEIR bodies."

Sham, you don't know any married men? Sad but it explains alot.

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SteelerFan

Jan-23-13 9:04 AM

"A fetus is not an infant. Period." Again, what the*****is it? Sorry, these statements really irritate me.

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philunderwood

Jan-23-13 9:12 AM

The rights of the mother or father have nothing to do with the unborn’s right to life. The only debatable issue is at what point the unborn should be considered an individual and therefore has a right to life. It’s unreasonable to claim that it’s not a baby as long as one foot is still in the birth canal.

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CMReeder

Jan-23-13 10:13 AM

It is up to the woman who is pregnant when it is a baby and not a fetus. She is the only one who can determine when that is not you Phil or any legislative body.

For the fetus to have rights that means that they are citizens and that would included the unborn in illegal immigrants. Something the right would never allow.

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philunderwood

Jan-23-13 11:01 AM

I don’t even know if chuck’s last post would qualify as magical thinking, lets call it nonsense and leave it at that.

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CHayes

Jan-23-13 11:04 AM

""A fetus is not an infant. Period." Again, what the*****is it? Sorry, these statements really irritate me."

Does it irritate your Spongebob Squarepants understanding of science to point out that there's a difference between a fetus, and a child?

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CHayes

Jan-23-13 11:06 AM

"Unfortunately, he hasn't appeared to shed any tears for the 1.2 million innocent unborn children aborted each year during his presidency"

Thats because an embryo isn't a child, anymore than an acorn is a tree. If you feel differently about it, please recall that you live in a free country, and thus are not required to have an abortion if you don't want one.

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JohnZook

Jan-23-13 11:11 AM

If a woman ALWAYS has a human being, how can an "infant in the womb" be anything else? Change the name to make it easier to terminate, call it a right-to-choose, what, same as paper or plastic? With the mind-set of the "TMZ" voter, i.e. uninformed, gimme stuff for free, ect., ect., this Roe v. Wade ruling will be around for a long time. They have out-killed Hitler, now they're going after Stalin's and Mao's record.

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Tgrammiex4

Jan-23-13 11:14 AM

Why is it that a fetus is not considered a child for abortion purposes but if a pregnant woman is killed the killer can be charged with 2 murders?

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CMReeder

Jan-23-13 11:34 AM

"I don’t even know if chuck’s last post would qualify as magical thinking, lets call it nonsense and leave it at that."

Nothing magical about it Phil you on the other hand are a libertarian hooligan.

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SteelerFan

Jan-23-13 11:44 AM

Way to go with the insults Hazy. A fetus is a child not yet fully developed. It's certainly not any other animal. I don't like SpongeBob.

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CHayes

Jan-23-13 1:36 PM

"If a woman ALWAYS has a human being, how can an "infant in the womb" be anything else?"

OK, lets play this game again.

1) Something that cannot survive when physically seperated from it's host can NOT be considered an "individual".

2) Something that lacks the requisite brain matter to be both conscious and self aware, can NOT be considered an individual.

It seems that the people on the right are so carried away with their black and white view of reality, they aren't even able the different stages of development of anything.

What would you call someone that called a caterpillar a butterfly?

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CHayes

Jan-23-13 1:41 PM

Just because you don't like SpongeBob. Doesn't mean you don't have a cartoonish understanding of science.

And don't waste everyone's time whining about being insulted. Knowledge is the best revenge. Go read a book.

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philunderwood

Jan-23-13 1:51 PM

Alright Chris, lets play your game. If a baby still has one foot in the birth canal is it less an individual than one that’s fully born?

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SteelerFan

Jan-23-13 2:38 PM

Thank you oh great and wise one. It must be just wonderful being you Hazy. Bet that mirror lights up each morning when you see yourself. The caterpillar is not even a good analogy but technically it's an undeveloped butterfly. Bite me!!

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CHayes

Jan-23-13 3:40 PM

"If a baby still has one foot in the birth canal is it less an individual than one that’s fully born?"

Please note that the two criteria I mentioned had nothing to do with "birth".

Please also note that the overwhelming majority of abortions that occur in the US, happen BEFORE even the fetal stage of development. We're talking about embryos, NOT fetuses.

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Ritty77

Jan-23-13 6:52 PM

Logically speaking, if a pregnancy is interrupted, either naturally or purposely, a life is lost.

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