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January 24, 2013

Due to the new gun control legislation passed by New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, we can look for an absence of gun violence in the State of New York in the near future....

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CHayes

Jan-24-13 12:19 AM

"All it took was the new legislation and the "criminal element" will cease to exist in the state."

Please provide a quote from someone who promised that.

Are you trying to tell me that speeding laws are passed with the expectation that not a single person will ever speed? Since DUI laws have been passed, never a person has driven under the influence? Really Weigle?

Perhaps you should be more concerned with providing law enforcement the tools the need to fight crime.

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CHayes

Jan-24-13 12:22 AM

"Next will be outlawing the National Rifle Association"

No need to, they've done enough damage to themselves in recent weeks. In the last few days they've been taken to task by everyone from former Republican Congressman Joe Scarborough, to former right wing darling Gov Chris Christie, and most recently by the Vice presidential candidate YOU recently supported, Paul Ryan.

They seem to be fumbling their own way to marginalization all on their own.

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richardson

Jan-24-13 12:29 AM

Cuomo is just passing gas. I grew up in NYS where possession of a hand gun is an automatic 1 yr prison sentance. Noone that I knew ever had a handgun. I used to go to an ADK hunting camp. My rifle was to be secure and empty in a locked gun case where I81 passes within Syracuse's limits. As for preventing criminals from committing crime? Care to walk in a borough of NYC after the sun set? I don't.

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Premier

Jan-24-13 6:12 AM

Yeah, the NRA is has done so much damage to itself that membership has risen by a 250K in the passed couple of weeks.

Yeah, yeah okay they were all conservitive mental paitents with itchy trigger fingers.

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wwhickok

Jan-24-13 6:44 AM

I get the point of this letter and I don't disagree with it. However, the point of new legislation/laws on any issue is to set a 'guideline' that permits action to be taken if that law is broken. Does it deter the action? Not necessarily, but it justifies the reaction to it.

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wwhickok

Jan-24-13 6:48 AM

This is a fact. NYC, Chicago, and Los Angeles are 3 of the most crime ridden cities in the country. I'm sure there are other big ones but those are the most commonly associated cities with major crime (could probably put Philadelphia in there also). So it doesn't shock me that NY would pass such a law. Will it help? Let me ask you this...who's going to stop the criminal elements that exist in NYC? I've never been to the city but I'm going to guess that there are plenty of cops who are just smart enough to stay out of certain areas as well..knowing all too well that it's just not worth dying for. Are the new gun laws going to make the criminal element disappear? Do elephants fly..and I'm not talking Dumbo. If anything it's going to fuel their rebellious nature.

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JerryfromRI

Jan-24-13 6:49 AM

In my opinion, give the NRA as much press coverage as possible. Twenty-four hours a day preferably.

Give their spokespersons as much camera time as possible so we all know where they stand.

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JerryfromRI

Jan-24-13 6:54 AM

Once upon a time the GOP championed state's rights. NY, as a sovereign state, should be celebrated for handling it's own affairs. After all, the people of NY choose how they want to live. The people of PA should not attempt to impose their will on other states.

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spike2

Jan-24-13 7:43 AM

I think there is a huge disconnect between cities and rural or semi-rural areas. People in areas like ours see no need for controls. Our crime is truly minimal outside of the few shootings in Williamsport. People live further apart, belong to Hunting Clubs and generally use guns appropriately. Cities are congested, buildings are often attached, no back yards, kids in the street playing, populations are higher and shootings more frequent.Hunting is not a passion. It is more likely non-involved parties are caught in crossfire. I don't see a need for high capacity but some do. I think we look at this whole topic as it relates to our particular areas and experiences. However, I don't believe anyone is coming for your guns or we are on the verge of a civil war. If so, who is your enemy? How do you identify the enemy? Obama certainly isn't going to knock on your door. Too many people are throwing around "threats" of violence if "someone" tries to take your gun. Who is th

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GoBB62

Jan-24-13 7:54 AM

For those so-called progressives who didn't get the point of the letter, here's a little help for you:

sar·casm /'sär?kaz?m/ Noun The use of irony to mock or convey contempt.

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CHayes

Jan-24-13 8:48 AM

"This is a fact. NYC, Chicago, and Los Angeles are 3 of the most crime ridden cities in the country."

Actually it's not a fact. If you are talking about the three highest murder rates, the worst cities for 2012 were Detroit, St. Louis, and Oakland. 4) Memphis, 5) Birmingham, 6) Atlanta, 7) Baltimore, 8) Stockton, 9) Cleveland, 10) Buffalo.

None of the cities you listed are even in the top 10 for murder. Hey, wait a minute. Don't those cities you listed all have strict gun laws?

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CHayes

Jan-24-13 8:55 AM

"Care to walk in a borough of NYC after the sun set?"

Love to. I have an acquaintance that lives in the Lower East Side, and I'd love to be able to find time to go visit him, and it would most certainly involve walking around at night from spot to spot. He was there with no power, and extremely limited cell phone access for about a week after Sandy, and didn't have any unusual problems. He actually went out to a bar one night toting his battery operated record player and a bunch of LP's, and had a great time.

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CMReeder

Jan-24-13 9:15 AM

"Yeah, yeah okay they were all conservitive mental paitents with itchy trigger fingers."

The most truthful statement you have made in a long time.

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SteelerFan

Jan-24-13 10:07 AM

What WOULD we do without Hazy keeping us all straight. Sarcasm, Chuck.

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CMReeder

Jan-24-13 10:42 AM

Lame, SteelerFan.

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mazmdm

Jan-24-13 10:48 AM

Hayes belongs in the lower east side. He would fit right in with the liberal hippies that live there. If they ban assault weapons is the govt going to buy them back from the owners?

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CHayes

Jan-24-13 11:28 AM

"Hayes belongs in the lower east side. He would fit right in with the liberal hippies that live there."

Actually my acquaintance is a wacko, right wing Libertarian, but he is a nice guy, and certainly knows how to have a good time.

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wwhickok

Jan-24-13 11:53 AM

First of all Hayes I never said anything about "murder". I believe my exact words were "major crime".

As for my other statement, I should have worded that better. What I was saying is, when you say "big city" I tend to think of cities like L.A., NYC, Chicago; I almost said Detroit in my original post but I wasn't sure if that was accurate. Fair enough that it would've been more accurate, obviously, than Chicago and L.A.

FACT IS: My point was not advocating why there should be increased bans, my point was that I don't necessarily thing increased bans will accomplish anything.

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CHayes

Jan-24-13 12:28 PM

" FACT IS: My point was not advocating why there should be increased bans, my point was that I don't necessarily thing increased bans will accomplish anything."

And the fact is, as I pointed out that all the cities you mentioned have very strict gun laws, and NONE of them are in the top 10 for per capita murder rates.

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mazmdm

Jan-24-13 12:43 PM

Hayes, I'm happy to hear that you have friends on the right.

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wwhickok

Jan-24-13 12:57 PM

Hazy I said this before, and I'll say it again here. You take what you WANT to hear out of a comment and use it as the basis of your arguement.

You responded to the 'edit' of my own comment, in which I admitted to misstating my point and stressing the fact I never said murder, by commenting on murder statistics.

AGAIN I SAID CRIME! NOT MURDER! Murder is a crime, not the only one in existence. Before you can speak efficiently, you'll need to learn to read efficiently.

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wwhickok

Jan-24-13 12:58 PM

And maz, while I'm certain you were being sarcastic anyway, if you were referring to me, in no world would Hayes and I be friends.

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CMReeder

Jan-24-13 1:11 PM

Mr. Hickok are you referring to gun crimes which would include murder or just crime. Considering that the issue is guns and killing and the argument centers on whether or not to ban certain types of guns.

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CMReeder

Jan-24-13 1:14 PM

"And maz, while I'm certain you were being sarcastic anyway, if you were referring to me, in no world would Hayes and I be friends."

He was referencing Chris's friend from NY who Chris described as libertarian and right wing but a fun person.

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richardson

Jan-24-13 2:06 PM

"Care to walk in a borough of NYC after the sun set?"

I've been to the "city" a few times. Chris: Your naivite can be excrutriating. Have a nice walk.

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