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Legislator advocates changes in labor law to public at Trout Run town hall

January 24, 2013

TROUT RUN — Legislation being reintroduced by state House Republicans to make Pennsylvania a right-to-work state was one of several topics discussed at state Rep....

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CarlHiller

Jan-24-13 6:02 AM

The biggest problem of right to work laws is that they create a base of low paying jobs. Every stat I have read about this points this out. While being able to find "any job" is a good thing, it is most definitely not better than a good paying job. These laws are not written to the benefit of small business but for the large corporations and have no place in the American workplace. As is the case with so many issues today the government creates a problem, proposes a solution and creates more problems. Government is definitely a growth business.

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JerryfromRI

Jan-24-13 6:39 AM

I'm surprised it took the PA GOP so long to move on this.

I've had my protest sign ready to go for a couple of years now. I was beginning to think I wasn't going to get to use it.

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rick424

Jan-24-13 6:50 AM

Then those that choose not to join the union should not get the benifits of those who do. Republicans are an odd lot.

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jeanjae

Jan-24-13 6:52 AM

Right to work laws are for management only. Without unions, workers are at the mercy of profiteers, who do not care about anything except money .

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CarlHiller

Jan-24-13 7:20 AM

You cannot be required, under the NLRA, to be a member of a union neither are you required to pay any monies as a condition of employment unless the collective bargaining agreement between your employer and your union contains a provision requiring all employees to either join the union or pay union fees and even if there is such a provision the most that can be required of you is to pay the union fees (generally called an "agency fee"). Full union membership cannot lawfully be required. full union membership cannot lawfully be required. In Pattern Makers v. NLRB, 473 U.S. 95 (1985), the United States Supreme Court held that union members have the right to resign their union membership at any time. Also see Communication Workers v. Beck, 487 U.S. 735 (1988). This is another law that is not needed.

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wwhickok

Jan-24-13 7:58 AM

Now that I fully understand the "Right to Work" issue, I support it. I DON'T think people should be forced to join unions, I think it should be a right, an option, a freedom of choice. But Carl makes a good point, it creates a base for low paying jobs. What people in this country need is GOOD paying jobs. And as stated, but also not unlike ALL corporate business. No matter what happens, it's always the 'suits' that benefit, never the 'little guy', never the hourly wage worker. The hourly wage worker will always be the one who loses on issues. We'll always be the ones working to make the suits more money. Not the other way around.

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USABorn

Jan-24-13 7:58 AM

It's about time the legislature makes PA a right-to-work state. The unions are losing members so fast now, in a few more years they won't exist except for government workers.

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johnnyad3

Jan-24-13 9:02 AM

If you are anti-union,like many republicans, you are typically for RTW. The propoganda spread by corporations will sway people that way. But wages, and per-capita personal income are all lower on average in RTW states. For example, Nevada's unemployment rate is 11.5%. Wages in RTW states are on average $1500 less per year. Workplaces without unions are more dangerous.

RTW laws have benefitted the business owners who did not have to contend with union contracts, but business employees didn't get those same positive effects--as evidenced by the lower salaries on average.

In the end, this type of law does not guarantee anyone a job and it does not protect against unfair firing.

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johnnyad3

Jan-24-13 9:26 AM

Gross Domestic Product (GDP)is probably better to use than wages. The GDP is probably the most accessible single measure of standard of living.

According to 2009 Bureau of Economic Analysis data, the GDP per capita for the worker-friendly states collectively was $43,899 that year, while the GDP per capita for the RTW states collectively was $38,755. The difference of $5,144 represents a per capita GDP that is 13.3 percent higher in the worker-friendly states than the RTW states. So, it looks like worker friendly states enjoy a higher standard of living and are more productive. Wouldn't a business rather locate in a state that is higher skilled and more productive?

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johnnyad3

Jan-24-13 10:06 AM

Let's face it, a lot of this RTW stuff is generated by teacher contracts. There are some 10 states in which there are virtually no legally binding K-12 teacher contracts at all. There are none in AL, AZ, GA, MS, NC, SC, TX, and VA. There is only one district with a contract in LA, and two in AR. Guess what, only one of those states scored above the national medium in education.

Other factors could be involved too like:

1. Parents income-RTW states make less than worker friendly states

2. Lack of resources-Since RTW income is lower, tax revenue available is lower and those states can't invest properly in education.

3. Parents education level-Well, if the parents went to these same RTW state schools, they received a poorer education, get less income and the cycle continues.

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bnjnbnj

Jan-25-13 6:50 AM

If any of you think for a minute that RTW will make Pa. more business friendly you are absoulutely right! If I had a business and wanted to maximize profits, based cutting workers wages, benefits, and total package. That would be the state for me! Bottom line RTW is wrong! For the person who applauds it you my good sir are a moron. I believe your quote was "unions are almost gone anyway" My question to you is: Why don't you belong to a Union? or are you just another scab living off of what unions have gained for you?

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