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We’re to blame

January 25, 2013

Since the school shootings in Newtown, CN, the debate has been renewed over whom or what is to blame for this and previous tragedie....

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Tgrammiex4

Jan-25-13 4:24 AM

Awesome letter....

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sideliner

Jan-25-13 5:46 AM

We have grown into a nation of individuals rather than members of a community who separate themselves, their desires, their personal "rights," and actions from the rest of society. As long as they can get what they want when the want it, it matters little the impact it may or may not have on anyone else. They just don't give a $^&@. That simple...

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mikekerstetter

Jan-25-13 5:59 AM

Great letter.

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MrShaman

Jan-25-13 6:00 AM

"Since we no longer teach morality and religion, respect for life and each other, and absolute right and wrong, which are foundational to any society, why are we shocked when tragedy strikes?" - Karen Gamble

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Once-a-week isn't getting the job done, for you?

Why should EDUCATIONAL-institutions need to pick-up the slack for faith-based resources that (quite) obviously aren't making the proper effort to reinforce whatever "absolutes" their membership requires??

If your houses-of-worship don't have the time (or, inclination) to reinforce your faith-based needs, don't expect taxpayers to provide the babysitting-services you (or, yours) require.

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MrShaman

Jan-25-13 6:08 AM

"We have grown into a nation of individuals rather than members of a community who separate themselves, their desires, their personal "rights," and actions from the rest of society." - sideliner

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Israel has (some) "members of a community who separate themselves, their desires, their personal "rights," and actions from the rest of society"...that conflict with (some) Palestinians who do the same.

That doesn't seem to be working-out, very well.

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Premier

Jan-25-13 6:39 AM

More idiotic comments from someone who is quite happy being part of the problem.

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CHayes

Jan-25-13 6:40 AM

"We have taken God, prayer, and the Ten Commandments out of our schools and communities because someone might be offended. Since we no longer teach morality and religion, respect for life and each other, and absolute right and wrong, which are foundational to any society, why are we shocked when tragedy strikes?"

So the letter writer supports govt employees teaching "morals" to their children? Why wouldn't that be something that parents exclusively would teach their children?

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ToTEXASfromPA

Jan-25-13 7:28 AM

"So the letter writer supports govt employees teaching "morals" to their children? Why wouldn't that be something that parents exclusively would teach their children?" ---CHayes

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I think the intent of the writer was to approach the problem with a broad base of solutions and not have tunnel vision on one or a few aspects. Of course parents are important in teaching morals.

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Concerning schools and universities, they have become platforms for the secular humanism that attacks the sanctity of life, promotes selfishness, attacks traditional family and societal values, promotes revolution, promotes covetousness, encourages free-thinking while denigrating laws, and flushes God down the toilet.

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rmiller

Jan-25-13 7:37 AM

Great letter!

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spike2

Jan-25-13 7:54 AM

We could post chicken noodle soup recipes and guns, abortions and Obama would end up in the broth. i think we have well-covered all three topics.

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MrShaman

Jan-25-13 8:09 AM

"Concerning schools and universities, they have become platforms for the secular humanism that attacks the sanctity of life, promotes selfishness, attacks traditional family and societal values, promotes revolution, promotes covetousness, encourages free-thinking while denigrating laws, and flushes God down the toilet." - ToTEXASfromPA

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...And, you think...what...that a TWO-year program (thru community-colleges) could do a BETTER job of educating students on the "fine art" of Capitalism??

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Tgrammiex4

Jan-25-13 8:15 AM

"So the letter writer supports govt employees teaching "morals" to their children? Why wouldn't that be something that parents exclusively would teach their children?" ---CHayes

That would be nice if they did but alot don't, nor set good examples for thier kids.

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Darlin

Jan-25-13 8:28 AM

Excellent letter.

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enigma

Jan-25-13 8:51 AM

Those of you who think that teaching morals in school is a bad idea, miss the point. The bigger problem isn't that they don't teach morals, it's that they actually undo any moral teaching the children might have had. They should at least re-enforce morals. And what about the children who don't have any other source of moral teaching, like those children of atheists like Sham-man who don't go to church or those whose parents are low lifes with no morals to teach? Wouldn't society benefit from some moral teaching for them? I can't believe that you leftists don't want that, it has the word society and benefit in it, you should love it. Is school the best place to teach morals? NO, but it's better than nothing.

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philunderwood

Jan-25-13 8:57 AM

Outstanding letter and it’s not a right/left problem, it’s a societal problem.

Individuals interacting and cooperating for their mutual benefit has proven to produce better results for everyone than any form of central planning.

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enigma

Jan-25-13 9:01 AM

Of course the leftist here try to divert attention from the real point of the letter, which is that as a country we have become morally bankrupt. They don't like to hear that, because they do so enjoy their immorality, and do not want to admit that it might be a problem. When you teach kids that they're nothing more than animals, why are you surprised when they act like animals. When you put self esteem above responsibility, you get self centered kids who don't see a problem with killing others just because they're unhappy. As the author said, gun violence doesn't happen because we have guns, it's because we have violence and that won't go away with a ban.

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CMReeder

Jan-25-13 9:18 AM

All the righties are right in step with this letter. Who could not see that one coming?

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CMReeder

Jan-25-13 9:19 AM

If we are morally banksrupt as say enigma I would say the right has a lot to answer for.

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CMReeder

Jan-25-13 9:26 AM

Consider this, relgion is out of our communities. Are there no more churches? Maybe if churches had dealt with the spirit instead of sex maybe people would attend. Maybe if you live by your faith instead of telling others how to live. How about the right be honest about individualism. You relly do not believe in individualism. You believe in conformity.

I find some of the most professed moral people to be very immoral.

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johnnyad3

Jan-25-13 9:29 AM

Public schools are a beautiful, diverse mix of cultures and religions. You cannot pick one religion to dominate all the others. If you want God and the Ten Commandments, go to a Catholic school or some kind of private school that reflects your beliefs.

One thing that is needed in public school are civics classes. Right now, civics classes are not required in elem/middle school and only one is required in high school compared to three in the 60's. Only nine states require students to pass a social studies test to graduate high school. Most states do not emphasize civic education especially since "No Child Left Behind". Schools have had to shift priorities even though research suggests those who take civics classes are more likely to believe they are responsible for improving society.

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rick424

Jan-25-13 9:38 AM

"We’re to blame"

I had nothing to do with this guy who got a gun and started shooting kids. Maybe if he didn't have a gun the victims would be alive today. Gun control now. I see the whiners are pitching a fit at the outdoor show in Hershey.

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Josh84

Jan-25-13 9:53 AM

"I see the whiners are pitching a fit at the outdoor show in Hershey."

If you did "see" it you would have saw that its in Harrisburg. Personnally I would have liked to have gone, but think the message sent to the Sponsor company is loud and clear.

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CMReeder

Jan-25-13 9:58 AM

There is a constant with the right and it is 'more'. They want more Christian prayers everywhere and from everyone. They want more guns and to have everyone armed and carrying. They want more guards. They want more for themselves. They want more morality because they have none.

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CMReeder

Jan-25-13 10:00 AM

Maybe the lawmakers in Harrisburg are afraid to have that much available firepower so close to them.

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Josh84

Jan-25-13 10:10 AM

@Chuck, This is the misconception that you have an impossibly hard time understanding.

I don't want more gun rights, I want to keep my gun rights.

I don't want more prayer everywhere, I want to keep the right for prayer anywhere.

I am not asking for "MORE" anything, well, maybe more common sense from the likes of you in understanding my position.

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