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Global warming and powerJanuary 29, 2013The issue isn't whether or not there has been a warming trend over the past few years. The issue is whether or not Man's activities are a significant factor in this.... Showing 25 of 55 comments Show More Comments
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msgjsheets
What they gain JerryRI is money and power. Money from the government for research and support and power to regulate. That is what it has always been about.
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rick424
I hear you Texas, same here.
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ToTEXASfromPA
Rick424,
I guess we will find out from God in the future. Many things he makes clear but some things are mysteries and we will find out some time in the future, maybe.
Concerning the comment the other day, it was a quote. The beauty is that God can forgive; just ask. I am very confident that he wants your marriage to be blessed and that He wants you and your wife's relationship to grow and flourish. He also wants your relationship to grow and flourish with Him.
Late response; long day at work.
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CMReeder
"There is certainly more agreement on the history of variations in our planet's climate, than on our impact on climate. So, I wonder why there isn't more discussion regarding our ability and need to adjust and adapt to potential changes?"
Because you can not get even those in power and influence that there is a problem to begin with concerning climate.
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rick424
Texas who is correct? Your belief or theirs. According to what you said the other day, I committed adultery since my wife was divorced. As times change it seems as though what is said in the Bible change, or should I say how it is interpreted.
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ToTEXASfromPA
Cont>>>
the start and finish of the era and they have to believe that the effects of sin (ie shedding of blood) transcend the timeline before the appearance of mankind.
There are many things that Christian brothers and sisters have different views on. One is the millennium and the return of Christ.
But there are many core doctrines that are generally held by all Christians and are foundational.
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ToTEXASfromPA
Francine, I could be wrong.
As I mentioned, in the Christian community, there are two generally accepted viewpoints of creation, ie the young earth and the old earth. The young earth creationists put the earth at 5,000 to 10,000 years but can not satisfactorily explain the apparent amount of time to form all the geologic layers of the earth and the seemingly billion of years for forming the expanding cosmic realm. They have to believe in a extremely earlier rapid creation not consistent to the way things occur in the current times.
Whereas the old earth creationist that believe the earth and universe are indeed 5-10 billion years old to explain geology and astrophysics seem to contradict 1. the Biblical seven days of creation and 2. the entrance of death into the world before the man showed up on the scene because there is no death without sin.
They have to believe the seven days were actually seven extended periods of time (eras) with day and night being the start an
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Francine
Right Rick! Pick and choose, and of course, his choice is the right choice, because he says it's the right choice. Therefore, everyone else is wrong including his fellow believers who somehow misread Genesis. It's all very easy when you're right and anyone who doesn't agree is wrong.
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rick424
Oh, I see how it is, you just pick and choose.
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ToTEXASfromPA
Francine, There are old earth creationist and young earth creationist in the church. I have elaborated on this some in the past. If you want me to look up and repost some of these comment, let me know.
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Francine
Ok Tex. But I don't think that was his point. You have made it clear that you're a man of the bible. Not that I can vouch for it, but you do quote an awful lot from the scriptures. It reasonable to assume you know a great deal about the bible. So, being that Genesis estimates the earths age at just over 6000 years BC (8000 years), how can you possibly believe that "20,000 years ago ice age" blasphemy?
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ToTEXASfromPA
"<tick><tick><tick><tick><tick><tick>.." [<chirp><chirp><crickets chirping>]..... -JHilfirty
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Google "Ice Age Glaciers in Pennsylvania"
Below is a quote from one link...
"It is estimated that the total duration of ice cover in the northern tier counties of Pennsylvania was about 6000 years and about 1000 years at the terminus. Ice last retreated from our area about 20,000 years ago, melting at the rate of about 30 years per mile (assuming no readvances). Hence, it took approximately 1000 years to recede from Tunkhannock to the New York border"
Or try "Pennsylvania and the Ice Age by W. D. Sevon" published by the DCNR. You can download it free immediately or better yet go to Amazon and pay $18 and wait for a couple of days.
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JerryfromRI
@gavinf56
You are ok in my book.
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Bufftrev1
Hello all.. for those who question if global warming is occurring, in addition to the natural cycles of the earths atmosphere, we now have millions upon millions of tons of carbon based gases being released into the atmosphere every single day. These gases are absorbed into the trees, grasses and plants as well as the worlds oceans, and you don't believe this has any impact on the worlds ambient average temperature?
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gavinf56
FWIW Jerry, I don't think man is without fault here, but from works by other scientists I do question the level of fault.
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gavinf56
97 out of 100 are looking to connect a preconceived notion rather than looking for a natural cause.
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JerryfromRI
So, 97 out of 100 climate scientist are blind ideologues?
I have a hard time believing that.
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gavinf56
Blind ideology.
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JerryfromRI
Let's look at this from a different angle: Assume global warming is a scam, what do the global warming activist want and what do they have to gain?
Answer: Less CO2 in the atmosphere to "supposedly" slow the warming. But what do they gain? Nothing.
So ask yourself this, why go to the trouble of a planet wide conspiracy to convince the populous of something that does not exist and have nothing to gain for it.
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Bobbie2
Since Mars is exhibiting the same type of climate change as Earth and the possibility exists that Fido may have immigrated from there maybe he can explain to us what is taking place.
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Bobbie2
Fido "Yeah...Porky Limbaugh & FAUX Noise are so-much-more "reliable"."
So you finally admit what most knew all along.
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rick424
So Ritty you think the billion plus cars in the world today, spewing their exhaust has no effect what so ever on the environment?
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gavinf56
"You people are perfect examples of our NEED for increased-immigration; "fresh blood"." MrShaman
Glad I did my part to help rectify that problem.
Have another drink Skippy.
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Ritty77
Totally agree, David Bross. The chances that humans can influence the climate on a large scale are even less than the chances that we caused it in the first place. Also, "climate change" would certainly be a welcome change to some areas and peoples, and they would adapt, as well.
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gavinf56
"(not your average T-Bagger; physicist, contracted by Koch Brothers)" MrShaman
Koch Brothers......drink!
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