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Legislator sour on labor law plan’s chances, defends effort to lure refinery

January 29, 2013

Constituents at State Rep. Garth Everett’s, R-Muncy, third recent town hall meeting asked him more questions Monday night on his stance on Pennsylvania becoming a right-to-work state....

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rick424

Jan-29-13 7:26 AM

Maybe politicians should be a volunteer position. Let see how that works out.

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wwhickok

Jan-29-13 7:45 AM

I absolutely support being a Right to Work State. We SHOULD have the freedom of choice.

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jeanjae

Jan-29-13 7:51 AM

"Right to work" is a term created by industrial, anti-worker entities. It gives management the right to deny fair pay and benefits.

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johnnyad3

Jan-29-13 8:41 AM

hickok - You do have freedom of choice. If you don't want to work for a unionized shop, don't apply. Think about it, your odds of working in a non-union shop are pretty good considering only 10% of the workforce is union.

Mike Kerstetter commented the other day about Mississippi having the lowest median income in the states. Guess what - they're right to work. Check out a lot of those right to work states. Poor education, poor pay, unskilled workforce, increased poverty. Why would a business want to move there?

Oklahoma is better to look at than Michigan because they've been right to work since 2001. Then you'll see what happens when a state becomes right to work. Right now business leaders in Oklahoma have sounded an alarm. They cannot find the science, technology, engineering and mathematics talent they need to stay competitive.

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Zippie

Jan-29-13 8:53 AM

Wouldn't being a "right-to-work" state "spread the work around"? As in giving work to all willing, not just the "special club".

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Fredzz

Jan-29-13 9:07 AM

johnnyad3,

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Right now business leaders in Oklahoma have sounded an alarm. They cannot find the science, technology, engineering and mathematics talent they need to stay competitive.

End Quote:

All they need to do is offer too all [ Union and or Non-Union ] A fair Middle class pay scale that will allow the citizens to afford Higher Education and Training to work more efficiently..!

Problem solved.

But Nooooo. Corp. Greed demands that Labor work for the least amount possible. Corp. Greed is cutting its own throat..!

JMT.

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stacey21

Jan-29-13 9:56 AM

If you choose not to be part of the union then you should have to negotiate your own benefits and wages.

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CarlHiller

Jan-29-13 12:10 PM

You cannot be required, under the NLRA, to be a member of a union neither are you required to pay any monies as a condition of employment unless the collective bargaining agreement between your employer and your union contains a provision requiring all employees to either join the union or pay union fees and even if there is such a provision the most that can be required of you is to pay the union fees. Full union membership cannot lawfully be required. In Pattern Makers v. NLRB, 473 U.S. 95 (1985), the United States Supreme Court held that union members have the right to resign their union membership at any time. Also see Communication Workers v. Beck, 487 U.S. 735 (1988). This is another law that is not needed. What is the difference between a Chamber of Commerce (a business union) and a union for workers? There is none both exist to further their collective interests. A 2010 US Chamber of Commerce survey 52% of small businesses said “labor unions have a positive impact” or

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CarlHiller

Jan-29-13 12:17 PM

“no impact. Also, "80% of self-identified small business owners agreed that strong unions make the free market system stronger, and 54% strongly agreed with that statement." These are the things you do not hear because big business does not want you to. Pennsylvania's and the US economy will only start to grow once again when employees are heard and earn wages decent enough to be consumers. As a state and a nation we will become more prosperous only when cooperative employers having satisfied workers regain the advantage over out-sourcing that simply enrich management and stockholders at the expense of those who produce goods and services. That is not the way capitalism nor the free-market works. One of the greatest capitalists of all times, Henry Ford, understood this.

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mikekerstetter

Jan-29-13 4:25 PM

"Everett told the handful of union workers in attendance that he appreciated their input and experiences, but "I'm not going to say I'm not for right to work."

Translation-"I appreciate hearing from you but I'm going to vote my way and I don't really care about the constituents."

Not unlike most other politicians.

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mikekerstetter

Jan-29-13 4:31 PM

carlhiller-"Full union membership cannot lawfully be required."

In PA, it's called 'fair share' and only those things that are necessary for representation can be used. Even if you are a full dues paying member you can object to your dues money being used for political purposes and get a refund. I used that objection a couple of times when I was a member of AFSCME.

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Fredzz

Jan-29-13 4:35 PM

What is a " self-identified small business owner "

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johnsmith

Jan-29-13 9:45 PM

Union dues are NOT permitted to be used to support political candidates. You must make a separate contribution to another fund. Many people think their dues go to support a particular candidate that they may disagree with. In actuality their dues dollars can't be used in such a way.

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mahs81

Jan-29-13 11:04 PM

mikekerstetter: "Translation-"I appreciate hearing from you but I'm going to vote my way and I don't really care about the constituents."" How do you know that he is not listening to the constituents who support right-to-work. Given the legislative district he represents, I am certain that there are more who do than do not. So perhaps he was saying, I appreciate hearing from you but you hold the minority view and I am going to vote the way my constituents have encouraged me to.

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pinecr

Jan-30-13 10:14 AM

johnsmith, I don't know where you got your information but my union dues have been used for backing a particular politician in an election, such as Obama in the last two Presidential elections and hell, I would never vote for the man.

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crkesq

Jan-30-13 2:53 PM

pinecr --I get my information from probably the same source that johnsmith did. It is both state and federal law that union dues cannot be used to directly support political candidates. The state unions must account for every dollar received voluntarily from each member that goes into a separate political action fund from which contributions may be made. Union dues are not permitted to be deposited or comingled with these voluntary contributions. I would challenge you to provide solid evidence that your dues dollars went to directly support the President and do not simply believe it is so because Fox News says it is so.

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