Sign In | Create an Account | Welcome, . My Account | Logout | Subscribe | Submit News | Newspaper contacts | All Access E-Edition | Home RSS
 
 
 

Jersey Shore restructuring plan’s delay worries public

January 29, 2013

JERSEY SHORE — After again announcing that the Jersey Shore Area School District’s grade restructuring plan will be delayed for two years, the school board allowed the public to ask questions and......

« Back to Article

 
 
sort: oldest | newest

Comments

(21)

LaughIn

Feb-03-13 3:41 PM

Please read the writing on the wall. Read Education politics will be key in Corbett's plans, written by Marc Levy, Associated Press in today's Sun Gazette. "In the meantime, the stress to make ends meet is growing for school districts. Raising taxes, laying off employees, expanding class sizes and closing school buildings are the norm in many districts now trying to absorb their share of an approximately $700 million increase in school employee pensions next year. That's a jump of 40%, according to the Pennsylvania Association of School Business Officials." The lack of state funding is coming back on locals to pay.

0 Agrees | 0 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

Watchdog4school

Feb-01-13 12:43 PM

Actually, I would have liked to see a proposal of closing all four schools and building a new energy efficient school to house all the k-3 students. I would assume that this was already looked at early on in the process though.

1 Agrees | 0 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

Watchdog4school

Feb-01-13 12:30 PM

Laughin-As I stated, I supported the January 14th presentation. I am not trying to "stop" the JSE project. My concern is paying for it. Please know that plan and how it was presented makes sense. I am very worried though that it is not affordable based SOLEY on the status of the Federal and State budgets. I am only trying to argue that in the end this could put the nail in the coffin to this already struggling tax base. Enjoy the crisp fresh air.

0 Agrees | 0 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

LaughIn

Feb-01-13 12:11 PM

The only sound decision is to eliminate the wasteful positions and buildings throughout the entire district, regroup and forge ahead. It would appear some people are offended because they will be affected. The last time I looked, the school district had how many students? Everyone will be affected, EVERYONE. I believe Watchdog is trying to find anything they can to stop the JSE project. As for Luey, your January 29 post gave enough information. You children have a nice weekend.

0 Agrees | 0 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

Watchdog4school

Feb-01-13 11:38 AM

Dear Luey, No need to worry about my math skills, they are honed. I have to chuckle at your logic. Busing (3) outlinying schools into one vs. busing one into three is a WASH. A $14.5 million dollar project at the local level will not sit well with the taxpayers. The problem is none of us will feel this for 8-10 years. This is deferring a huge debt service liability strictly on the local taxpayers. The concept is sound and makes total sense but it is not fiscally feasible. I would supporty it 100% if we were guaranteed the reimbursement. If you can debate that issue intellctually without calling me stupid, I would love to hear from you. Otherwise, enjoy your popcorn!

Also, I am not a flip flopper rather I find all of your comments easily flawed.

Dun, dun, dun......

0 Agrees | 0 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

Luey22

Feb-01-13 8:17 AM

Can you stay focused on what you say? flip flopper

Closing the "dinosaur" and busing students out of town is just a stupid suggestion. Can you put that on the agenda, because I will be sure to stream live that night..I can watch the Saturday night fights from home eating popcorn.....I am sure the parents complaining about bus rides will double.

Anyways, stay focused...who does your math? Hmmm... How much did gas/diesel jump just yesterday? What do you do when that happens...buy more? If you really think someone was trying to sell us something that didn't have inflation buffers in it, maybe you should call someone??? Call the Queen

0 Agrees | 0 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

Watchdog4school

Jan-31-13 2:31 PM

Luey, "what a stupid thing to say", what's that about. Simple math here.. The whole plan was sold upon no tax increase at the local level, that .68 mills are reserved for debt service. BUT-That is banking that there will be reimbursement. Do you go to the meetings? Do you remember: dun, dun, dun..another one bites the dust!

0 Agrees | 0 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

Watchdog4school

Jan-31-13 2:28 PM

Agreed laughin!

0 Agrees | 0 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

Luey22

Jan-31-13 2:13 PM

What free money? Nothing is free, it ALL comes from the taxpayers. How much is your dollar worth after putting in a hard 40 hours+ a week...

I see we have some comprehension problems going on here...nothing new. Busing kids to outlying schools doesn't even make sense. What a stupid thing to say, are you sure you go to meetings? Are the 'Dinosaurs' on Allegheny, Broad, in Porter Township and Salladasburg still used?????

Laugh, I love your last post, they had a school to work program when I was in High School.

It would appear there are two different topics going on here....possibly why some people don't understand.

0 Agrees | 0 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

LaughIn

Jan-31-13 1:08 PM

What if the schools got back to the basics? Instead of kids taking basket weaving, they could apprentice with a community business. They could learn the right discipline needed to advance in a job after graduation. Good mentors with a clear vision of what the real world is all about. This could reduce the wasteful tuition latching onto our youth at an increasing rate which is not necessary. There is something wrong when I cannot find a plumber around here, but have no problem finding a lawyer. My electrician charges just as much an hour as a lawyer! SCHOOL TO WORK isn't a new concept. How many posters on here remember this when they were in school? Ask your Grandparents

0 Agrees | 0 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

Watchdog4school

Jan-31-13 12:39 PM

Luey- You hit the nail on the head. Feds are broke, our Commonwealth is near dooms day with the state pension. AKA-No free money! AKA No reimbursment. AKA 14.5 Million will be paid back at the local level. Just wait until 7-8 years from now when the first reimbursement should have been due to receive, when it doesn't arrive the"locals" will pay the piper. Close down the dinosaur and bus them to the outlining schools.

0 Agrees | 0 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

Watchdog4school

Jan-31-13 12:36 PM

Laughin, Not sure how old you are but comparing your parents to the Little House on the Prarie days of school and 2013 does not work.

0 Agrees | 0 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

Luey22

Jan-30-13 9:34 PM

Watch dog for what? If our children have to waste time taking classes they do not need,by all means district slice away and take away as much of that pie possible. Some teachers called their students a few years back to go to school board meetings to plead to save this and that and nothing got done! Now we have the same stunts going on and if that board doesn't see past this crap,trouble for everyone. The locals are going to pay anyways, do you pay attention to anything but yourself? Our Federal and State governments are in debt up to their pig ears and the locals will pay the most anyways(trickle down). I would rather see wasteful classes, teachers to fill them, and an under utilized school go NOW! I thought the presentation the other night was fantastic, even more SAVINGS. Oh! I would like to thank Mr.Boncal for the streaming live on the internet...THANK YOU JESUS, there is a GOD

0 Agrees | 1 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

LaughIn

Jan-30-13 5:23 PM

This issue is about every student, not what is best for just a small percentage of students. Tell me why my parent's who went to a one roomer,learned how to survive, raised a family on less, had well paid professions were affected in a negative way?

Integrity, respect, discipline and blame must be real big societal problems nowadays. You know it better as the NOT MY KID SYNDROME. Parents need to take ownership in their part, wake up, stop transferring blame and start taking an active roll in their child's education. Parents don't want the schools disciplining their Johnny, because that is to embarrassing and could cause emotional damage.

Tell you what, I will continue to read the facts because there is to much at stake! The Farmer's Almanac isn't working here.

0 Agrees | 1 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

Watchdog4school

Jan-30-13 8:19 AM

Luey- In my opinion, no one was critizing the plan of consolidation, centralizing, sharing resources and holding the line on tax increases. The main argument that I witnessed was all the hard work everyone put into the comprehensive plan without first checking with DED to confirm this will still fall in line with the reimbursement. My ultimate fear is that the way the state budget keeps shaping up, there will be NO reimbursement. If that fear becomes a reality, then all taxpayers of the JSASD will pay a HUGE price. Programs will be cut, layoffs will occur. If that is the case, then is this worth the gamble?

0 Agrees | 0 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

Luey22

Jan-29-13 5:26 PM

"Someone should be held responsible", for presenting a future plan to redistrict grade levels based on the decline of student enrollment numbers and fiscal reality! I was glad to see that some community members pointed out that the district may never receive reimbursement from the state ever and if they do it may not be for years. Quite frankly, I couldn't figure out myself who was pointing guns where last night. The "volunteers" did suggest that they needed money for a paid soccer coaching position because of contractual obligations to the union. I have been attending budget sessions for the past 10-12 years and can tell you that half a million dollars in the athletic budget is secured by the union and 75-78% of the budget is based on teachers salaries. I don't understand why the big picture is all about money? I heard people say they were willing to pay higher taxes for a good education.....to confusing this situation

0 Agrees | 0 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

rockchickhusband

Jan-29-13 3:57 PM

Laughin----I really do get a kick out of reading your posts. Did you pay attention to anything that was said at last nights meeting? Mrs. Bierly was spot on with her comments as was Mr. Francis. Now you're turning her comments into being about the Union. And really, you are going to pick on the coaches? They can use volunteers with the exception of ONE paid coach. I have read your other comments on this website and it sounds like you are just trying to start trouble. Some of us are trying to do what's best for the kids. I know I want what is best for mine.

2 Agrees | 0 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

Watchdog4school

Jan-29-13 2:48 PM

I also believe the athletic coaching positions are tied to the paid positions outined in the contracts.

2 Agrees | 0 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

Watchdog4school

Jan-29-13 2:47 PM

LaughIn-Not quite sure I understand your post. To be frank, from previous posts are read of your none of them made much sense. What lead up to last nights "drama" is the real core issue here that needs to be examined. If the plan went through, no reimbursement. No reimbursement means a HUGE local level tax increase. "so keep all schools open at a great cost to the taxpayers"-that cost would be trivial compared to building a centralized elem. system to be fully funded at the local level.

You are confusing your distaste of the union with the real issues at hand.

2 Agrees | 1 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

LaughIn

Jan-29-13 12:27 PM

Continued

1963, Warning for a Nation; 1983, A Nation at Risk; and Public Worries, 2013.

Something else that bothered me last night. The Athletic Director and a coach came to the meeting to get sponsorship from the board to bring back the soccer program at the middle school. They made a point that they could not use volunteers (to cut costs)because the union gets first dibs at getting the money allocated for coaching positions. Apparently the athletic contracts are tied to a union contract? Something that I didn't know, until last night. I thought teachers taught and volunteers were needed to help solve some monetary issues in the district? Is it about saving money, hogging money, or saving programs for our children???? After everything I heard last night, I am so discussed with people saying one thing and doing the opposite of what they say. When the parents are trying to help, who exactly is helping themselves???? What a Joke

1 Agrees | 3 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

LaughIn

Jan-29-13 12:18 PM

I will go first

"If I were the Devil..I would begin with a whisper.." "I'd infiltrate unions and urge more loafing and less work..." "Raye Bierly, (union President for the JSEA) said it "may not be a bad thing that the plan is being delayed. She said it will allow the district to take a step back and re-evaluate its ideas. I think we have to consider all options...including selling the district service center." This comment following whatever her father Burt Francis said. "If I were the devil, I would take from those who have (taxpayers) and I would give to those who want (union)..."

Keep all schools open at a great cost to the taxpayers, because people need jobs, want to work less, and do not want to be held accountable for the new evaluation systems coming down? Oh, YES..."In other words, if I were Satan, I'd just keep on doing what he's doing...and I would get preachers to say "she's right.""

1963, Warning fo

1 Agrees | 2 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

Showing 21 of 21 comments
 
 

Post a Comment

You must first login before you can comment.

*Your email address:
*Password:
Remember my email address.
or
 
 
 

 

I am looking for:
in:
News, Blogs & Events Web