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January 30, 2013

Great choice of experts to pick to argue why Chuck Hagel should not be Defense Secretary.What makes these two people experts on the military or on our defense? Mr. Krauthammer did not serve in the U....

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USABorn

Feb-01-13 5:04 PM

Back to the subject:

Hagel told the Senate Armed Services Committee today, "If confirmed, I INTEND TO LEARN ABOUT THE DEFENSE DEPARTMENT."

That's like voting for a president with no private sector experience then expecting his economic policies to succeed.

He also called the Iranian regime a LEGITIMATE, ELECTED government.

then he was dumb enough to talk about Iranian CONTAINMENT.....saying it was where Obama stood. After someone slipped him a note, he backpedaled on that statement.

Republicans and democrats alike are saying Hagel's confirmation hearings are the worst in history!

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USABorn

Feb-01-13 4:56 PM

rmiller - 6:47 PM

"It wasn't the right who was spitting on Vietnam veterans on their return home trips. The term...hippie comes to mind?" Yeah and now they are yuppies..."

Yuppie (short for "young urban professional" or "young upwardly-mobile professional")is a term that refers to a member of the upper middle class or upper class in their 20s or 30s.

The term actually came out of the business world, and was used during the 80's and early 90's.

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MrShaman

Feb-01-13 8:47 AM

"The right does not have respect for the military they only unabashedly use it."

It wasn't the right who was spitting on Vietnam veterans on their return home trips. The term...hippie comes to mind? Yeah and now they are yuppies..." - rmiller

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Ah, yes...where would we be, without the inclusion o' some o' those good ol' Urban Myths??!!!

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See:

Spitting on the Troops - Vietnam Veterans Against the War

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BTW, Skippy...Yuppies were NEVER authentic Hippies. Yuppies have ALWAYS jumped from one trend, to the next...like any good lemming...constantly in-search of an "acceptable" image. Presently, too-many of them are T-Baggers.

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MrShaman

Feb-01-13 8:38 AM

"Love how the right displays respect for those who serve over those who don't and can spit on anyone who did serve and is a member of the Democratic party or appointed to an office under a Democratic President. The right does not have respect for the military they only unabashedly use it." - CMReeder

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...Then, you've got those...like McCain...who's extended his military-brat legacy to the present, and STILL can't come-to-grips with the fact he's (already) REACHED the apex o' his political-career.

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CHayes

Jan-31-13 9:29 PM

" Hughes, Regale us with stories of your time in the military Uncle Chickenhawk."

Sorry Josh, but you must be mistaking me for someone else. The word "chickenhawk" refers to someone who is necessarily a hawk, and I am not.

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rmiller

Jan-31-13 6:48 PM

Uhhhhh...Krazy...

"Krauthammer is an Obama hater. He is so predictable. Obama speaks; Krauthammer disagrees."

That's a no brainer.

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rmiller

Jan-31-13 6:47 PM

"The right does not have respect for the military they only unabashedly use it."

It wasn't the right who was spitting on Vietnam veterans on their return home trips. The term...hippie comes to mind? Yeah and now they are yuppies and tomorrow...well....nursing home residents receiving lots of compassion from the liberal generation X brats.

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rmiller

Jan-31-13 6:42 PM

"Krauthammer was born in NY City, and thus is an American citizen. "

USA didn't say where K was born, he spoke to where he was raised...

You know...like Obama..born one place..raised somewhere else?

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KrazyK

Jan-31-13 1:43 PM

Krauthammer is an Obama hater. He is so predictable. Obama speaks; Krauthammer disagrees.

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CMReeder

Jan-31-13 12:14 PM

Here we go again!

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Josh84

Jan-31-13 10:23 AM

CHayes Jan-31-13 8:10 AM****"He went to grad school at Harvard, which meant he had been ducking service for quite some time by staying in college."

Hughes, Regale us with stories of your time in the military Uncle Chickenhawk.

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MrShaman

Jan-31-13 9:12 AM

"Love how the right displays respect for those who serve over those who don't and can spit on anyone who did serve and is a member of the Democratic party or appointed to an office under a Democratic President. The right does not have respect for the military they only unabashedly use it." - CMReeder

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See:

Who Served? (c/o awolbush)

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MrShaman

Jan-31-13 8:57 AM

"It should never be assumed that somebody is qualified just because the President nominated them, no matter which party is in office." - msgjsheets

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...And, what BETTER example than Flight-Instructor Rumsfeld??

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CMReeder

Jan-31-13 8:38 AM

Love how the right displays respect for those who serve over those who don't and can spit on anyone who did serve and is a member of the Democratic party or appointed to an office under a Democratic President. The right does not have respect for the military they only unabashedly use it.

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CHayes

Jan-31-13 8:10 AM

"Krauthammer was RAISED in Montreal. He has been paralyzed and in a wheelchair since his first year at Harvard."

Krauthammer was born in NY City, and thus is an American citizen. In 1968, at the height of the Viet Nam war, he was 18 years old, and eligible for service in the US military.

He went to grad school at Harvard, which meant he had been ducking service for quite some time by staying in college.

An individual can drive from Montreal to Plattsburgh, VT in under an hour and a half, and Krauthammer COULD HAVE done this at any time after reaching the age of 18, to enlist. He CHOSE not to.

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CHayes

Jan-31-13 8:02 AM

"Did Obama serve anytime in our services, outside of viewing them die on his watch?"

Regale us with stories of your time in the military auntie Chickenhawk.

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rmiller

Jan-30-13 10:40 PM

USA,

Mr. Krauthammer" as you rightly point out is a brilliant man with much insight.

He has, from my understanding, a tube in his throat, which would account for his speaking with the raising of his chest with every breath.

Did Obama serve anytime in our services, outside of viewing them die on his watch?

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USABorn

Jan-30-13 10:27 PM

"Mr. Krauthammer did not serve in the U.S. military as he was conveniently going to college in Canada during the Vietnam conflict."

Krauthammer was RAISED in Montreal. He has been paralyzed and in a wheelchair since his first year at Harvard.

His contribution to the field of psychiatry is worth noting.

His contribution as a fighter for the rights of Americans and the U.S. Constitution is phenominal.

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rmiller

Jan-30-13 10:20 PM

Mr. Sever.....me thinks thou doth protest too much.

You certainly have your biases against otherwise conservative voices.

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JerryfromRI

Jan-30-13 9:47 PM

@Josh84

What the source of your nuclear weapons statistics?

The Brookings institute says there are 10600. That at the peak there were 35000 and 70000 made in total since inception.

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msgjsheets

Jan-30-13 8:21 PM

Is Shaman an annoying idiot? I think we all know the answer to that question.

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msgjsheets

Jan-30-13 8:20 PM

Is there fat that can be trimmed from the Defense budget? Yes. Is there fat that can be trimmed from the rest of the federal budget? Yes. We should be doing both, mindful that providing for the common defense is a primary tenet of the federal government. We must insure that we have the strongest, best trained and best equipped military in the world. If you truly support the troops, you cannot believe otherwise. They are alwasy the ones to suffer first and the most when budget cuts come to town.

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msgjsheets

Jan-30-13 8:17 PM

Military service by itself does not guarantee somebody is ready to be Secretary of Defense or Secretary of State but it is helpful. The nominee's record and his or her philosophy is and should be examined. That is the reason for Advise and Consent and three branches of government. It should never be assumed that somebody is qualified just because the President nominated them, no matter which party is in office.

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SteelerFan

Jan-30-13 1:37 PM

I don't recall a lot of opposition to Kerry and I'm sure Hagel will make it. I'm not opposed to either one. Barry can pick his own poison.

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CHayes

Jan-30-13 10:19 AM

" Also, the current White House doesn't have a lot of folks working there with military experience."

So the right wing response is to oppose two appointees, with 5 Purple Hearts, 1 Bronze Star, and one Silver Star between them? I'm sure that makes perfect sense, somewhere, though I'm not sure where that would be.

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