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Crowd packs fire hall to vent about gas drilling effects

February 1, 2013

HUGHESVILLE — On Thursday, the last of four town hall meetings hosted by state Rep. Garth Everett, R-Muncy, at the beginning of the new legislative session brought out the most constituent....

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EmbarrassedByPA

Feb-04-13 9:53 AM

really, bringing cyber schools into this ....my granddaughter cyber schools because the schools here can't help the special needs kids they way they need helped and they have to meet state standard testing. wth!!

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WendyLynneLee

Feb-02-13 9:22 AM

Dear mahs81: If the reporter was still there, and failed to report on Everett's boorish behavior to a fellow Pennsylvanian, then shame on the reporter. But then again, how surprising is this for a newspaper that is in the pocket of the gas industry and its PAID representatives? Mr Everett was asked TWO questions about campaign donations. He insisted that he had not received any amount that could be influential from the gas companies. That's a LIE. He got money from Chesapeake and Anadarko, among others, and his claim that most of his contributions came from private donors belies the fact that these are donors connected to the gas industry directly or indirectly. These are facts. His constituents have a right to know who Mr. Everett really works for--because it's not them however he pretends it is by attacking fellow Pennsylvanians for asking questions he can't answer without betraying his real interests.

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CitizenSane

Feb-02-13 2:13 AM

Let's see, he (Everett) said Pennsylvania can both drill for natural gas and be a steward of the environment. "I think we can do both."

So, he says he hasn't seen any conclusive evidence of ground water contamination from gas drilling. In other words, there is no proof. However, his assumption that "Pennsylvania can both drill for natural gas and be a steward of the environment." is based on what he "thinks". No proof it can be done safely, but he expects us to get on board with the gas industry on his 'faith based' conclusion. Is Everett for real? Hi insults the intelligence of his constituents and every Pennsylvanian living on top the Marcellus.

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twinder

Feb-01-13 10:57 PM

I didn't use Keystone and now you can probably figure out why.

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BornHere

Feb-01-13 7:40 PM

twinder, Keystone Water Testing Services charges $375 for Baseline and another $200 for Total Petroleum Hydrocarbons, Benzene, Toluene, Ethylbenzene, and Xylenes, I know this because I just paid for the whole package.

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twinder

Feb-01-13 7:15 PM

Must be a greedy landlord that charges $575 for water testing! I had my well tested a few years ago by two different places, one was a local laboratory, the other was in another state. We tested for completely different reasons than fracking but, it wasn't anywhere near $575. And yes, we tested for everything.

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mikekerstetter

Feb-01-13 6:27 PM

mahs81, are you saying that Wendy Lee was there to disrupt a meeting for the residents of the district? I'm surprised..... NOT.

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BornHere

Feb-01-13 4:56 PM

freedom123, I have been dealing with the oil and gas industries since 2005, I'm from Pavillion, Wyoming.

There are 2 words that the industries do not like to hear, 1. Baseline 2. Attorney.

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eric88

Feb-01-13 4:06 PM

How much have I donated? Absolutely nothing.

your argument started out as contamination never happens.....then nature causes a little....then fracking helps it along.....then finally water buffalos and special vented well caps are needed after drilling.....

you sir should be a politician! Ps. who signs your paycheck?

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freedom123

Feb-01-13 3:45 PM

Great point bornhere. That is actually a very good idea, and a smart one at that.

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freedom123

Feb-01-13 3:43 PM

eric88-what are you talking about, gas migrates upwards from the shale under the water table. The gas well's go well below that shale. And the frack water cannot migrate up, because it is heavier than gas. Remember gravity. You don't see water just magicaly coming up out of a river or stream. it doesn't rain up? Well i guess there evaporation, but wait theres no sun 2,500ft in the ground. Come on man, do your homework and start googleing real valid websites, not somebody lonely, still lives with parents in the basement, get all my information from Ben Afflack and Josh Fox....PS. There also making money from these lies......Think about it! It doesn't matter what side your supporting, everybody is still making a buck in the process. How much money have you donated to the responsible drilling alliance?

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BornHere

Feb-01-13 3:37 PM

Start Baseline Water Testing before any drilling occurs, that way you will know exactly what is in your water. The costs have come down to $575. So if your well is contaminated by the gas industry, you will have your proof of what was in your water before any drilling started.

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freedom123

Feb-01-13 3:33 PM

Yes Rick! The gas company's did cause the gas to migrate into the water. But it has always been there, just needed a little push. But it's not that bad. Just vents out of my water well cap. They paid for the temporary water buffalo, and for the venting system, and they also pay for water test's every 3 months. Nothing was ever found. Just my water fizzed until the cap was vented. Fizzing from the gas escapeing the water. It makes me sick that this dude in Dimock was throwing mud in a bootle of water, shaking it and telling the nation and movie stars that his water was dirty. Fame W*&^%!

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eric88

Feb-01-13 3:30 PM

Freedom123----The water buffalos in Dimock and in Hughesville were provided to the residence, as a precaution from explosion.

But remember the water table only goes down at most 350 feet. These gas wells are being drilled close to 1,500 - 3,000 feet and have triple casing filled with cement, so there is a pretty good barrier between the well bore shaft and the aquefier's.

Conflicting talking points?

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freedom123

Feb-01-13 3:26 PM

I have a major in soil science, but I work in aviation now. Wierd huh? Ya go to school for one thing and end up working in something totally different. Thats life though.

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rick424

Feb-01-13 3:22 PM

You believe what you want. If you poke a hole in the ground, dump who knows what into that hole. Something will happen, maybe not now but at sometime it will happen. I am sure the coal industry told the skeptics all was good but we are certainly paying for it now. Again it just seems odd problems occur when the gas well shows up. It does not take a lot of research to see this happening all over the world.

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freedom123

Feb-01-13 3:22 PM

eric88 I live in one of these said homes in Hughesville that have contaminated water. IT'S NOT CONTAMINATED!!!!!!!!! I just want people to know the facts. Not the histeria.

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freedom123

Feb-01-13 3:18 PM

The water buffalos in Dimock and in Hughesville were provided to the residence, as a precaution from explosion. Remember gas goes up. So as the gas was leaving the taps in the residence, it may migrate to the most highest point, which may produce an explosion if ignited from an ignition source. The buffolo's left as soon as the well caps were installed with a special vent fan. You don't have to beleave me. Drive up and around the backskirts of Hughesville yourself and look at the vented well caps in peoples back yard's. I know exactly were they are but for obvious reasons I can't disclose exact locations.

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eric88

Feb-01-13 3:17 PM

Freedom, what gas company do you work for? Sounds like Chesapeake galleries talking points.

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freedom123

Feb-01-13 3:11 PM

The only thing to be upset about is the noise and the increase in truck traffic. That's it!!! All this environmental bull is fabricated to scare you. Thats why when a truck rolls over and spills some fluid. It's not a big deal. If a company is dumping this stuff for months or years out onto the ground. Then yes, it is a concern because it will alter the Chemical balance of the soil (PH, Phosphate, Acid) kinda like a farmer using insecticides & herbicide over a number of years. Even if a truck carrying brine would roll over into the river and spill it's entire load, It's like a teardrop in an olympic size swimming pool.

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freedom123

Feb-01-13 3:04 PM

It's ok to be scared. Water is a valuble resource. But remember the water table only goes down at most 350 feet. These gas wells are being drilled close to 1,500 - 3,000 feet and have triple casing filled with cement, so there is a pretty good barrier between the well bore shaft and the aquefier's.

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freedom123

Feb-01-13 2:58 PM

Those well's ARE NOT contaiminated in Hughesville, Just like the ones in Dimock, Pa. That's why the EPA cleared them. The water coming out of all these residences taps are crystal clear. There wells do have gas in them. Clear, Oderless, Natural Gas. it's ok to drink, cook and bath in, because the gas escapes the water as soon as it becomes depressurized from the water pipes. (Remember science class in school, gas/water don't mix)The very simple fix for this is to vent the water well from the well cap. Some of the water wells had natural gas in them even before the drilling started. In fact in some southern countys of Pa.,some homes have been able to light there water on fire, for several decades now. Even before hydro fracking was invented. Some of these wells are in Union county. (There hasn't been a single gas well drilled in Union County to date)

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eric88

Feb-01-13 2:51 PM

Plus when a state representatives personal aid claims that the gasland argument is false-claiming that tap water is naturally flammable its obvious who is bought and paid for....

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rick424

Feb-01-13 2:49 PM

I disagree mahs81 about the tax, for instance the airport getting money from the industry. Doesn't make sense to me. As far as your phone call, good for you. That never happened to me. But here is the thing, I actually like Everett. For the most part he is a fair guy but I feel his lack of knowledge about the industry will hurt him down the road. Just my opinion.

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eric88

Feb-01-13 2:48 PM

Hate to agree with Rick but in Bradford county there were dozens and dozens of houses that had "water buffalos" in their yards. since then extensive water filtration systems replaced them that have to be maintained by the property owner. That's once the pollutant numbers get fixed by the offenders too satisfy DEP's requirements.

sorry for the facts....

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