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Crowd packs fire hall to vent about gas drilling effects

February 1, 2013

HUGHESVILLE — On Thursday, the last of four town hall meetings hosted by state Rep. Garth Everett, R-Muncy, at the beginning of the new legislative session brought out the most constituent....

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jeff33

Feb-01-13 2:26 AM

Lease your land don't cry when your water is no good! That's the chance you take!

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wwhickok

Feb-01-13 6:20 AM

Jeff you're not wrong. The only problem I have with the gas lines is the effect they're having on rent prices as a result of 'greedy landlords'. If I owned land, I also wouldn't sell or lease it to the gas lines, that's just my personal choice.

But you're not wrong.

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BornHere

Feb-01-13 6:59 AM

Mr. Everett forgot to inform these people of SB166, which would strip a landowner's right to deny survey teams from entering their property.

Gasland surveyors would have full access to their private property to do whatever they want.

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rick424

Feb-01-13 7:30 AM

"It's now come to our backyard. It's here," Fine Mr Everett. Put it in your back yard if you like it so much.

Why doesn't the Sun do a story on the man whose water is no longer usable.

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BornHere

Feb-01-13 8:23 AM

rick..the reason the Sun won't do a story on this landowners water being contaminated is because the gas industry DOES NOT contaminate your water. Remember?

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rick424

Feb-01-13 9:06 AM

Of course, silly me.

Been reading where some politicians want the gas pipeline industry as a utility. Of course you know what that means.

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pinecr

Feb-01-13 9:47 AM

jeff33, I have fracking all around my property but I did not lease, and I am sure my well will end up being poisoned from it. If you don't understanding the fracking process, please don't comment. You don't have to hold a lease with the gas industry to have your personal property affected. In meeting with the gasland man when he wanted to lease our property, he stated that when the frack they have actually no idea how far outside the leased area they are fracking, they try to do their best. NOW DOESN'T THAT JUST MAKE US ALL FEEL SO MUCH BETTER THAT THE GAS INDUSTRY TRIES THEIR BEST, we all know what that means, goodbye water and wells.

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pinecr

Feb-01-13 9:48 AM

Everett is another puppet for the gas industry.

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pinecr

Feb-01-13 9:50 AM

As for DEP, we had a truck carrying nasty left over fracking water that overturned into a cornfield in our area. DEP was called and they said "we don't really see a need to come out and take a look at it, just pump it into another truck. REALLY, YOU DON'T SEE A NEED, UNBELIEVABLE!

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linden13

Feb-01-13 10:00 AM

There is no chance that if there was actually a contaminated well that it would not be a HUGE story with Ms. Wendy Lynn Lee camping out with her merry band of the "end is near" enviro-wackos in tow.

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linden13

Feb-01-13 10:06 AM

To those of you concerned with the high rents... You have evidently never been to somewhere actually expensive. If you have owned a rental property in this area and ended the year with a net loss you know well that the rise is welcome and long over-due. Being a landlord should not doom you to a life of servitude to the property or the tenants. I do not owe my tenants anything beyond what is legally dictated and agreed upon in advance. Renting is a contractual agreement period. Either party can request a change of terms at the end of the agreed to period.

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WendyLynneLee

Feb-01-13 11:02 AM

How unfortunate that the Post-gazette reporter LEFT before the real fireworks began. You missed entirely Mr. Everett's attempt to throw out a fellow Pennsylvanian because Mr. Everett dos not want and cannot answer the hard questions about the negative effects of hydro-fracking. Fortunately, others had the foresight to film the entire meeting.

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wwhickok

Feb-01-13 11:13 AM

BTW, I felt I should also add to my initial comment that, I don't just feel that the landlords are being greedy and that it's the non-gas line workers that are being hurt. I feel that it's not fair to the gas industry workers that landlords have raised their rent prices because "Gas Industry employees can afford it." It's all about greed. Yes, it hurts those of us who do not work in the Industry much more than those who do, but it doesn't make it right that it affects either party.

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wwhickok

Feb-01-13 11:17 AM

Linden, honestly...you sound exactly like the type of greedy landlord I'm referring to.

Furthermore, there are a lot more SLUM LORDS in this city than those who aren't one. Which makes the entire greed issue worse. I'm not saying landlords 'owe' anyone anything. I'm saying that the landlords, most of them, have raised the prices simply because some people who make a little more money, came to town, but they forgot that the rest of us, don't have the luxury of high paying jobs.

As for your belief that I have never been anywhere where prices for rent are actually expensive. Here's your b.s. card, feel free to use it when you please. I lived in Pittsburgh, PA for 7 years, before that I lived in Lexington, KY for almost 2. Both have MUCH higher rent costs within the city than here, but one thing you'll find..there's better schools, better paying jobs, and more jobs in general.

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mahs81

Feb-01-13 12:06 PM

WendyLeeLynn: You mean when you tried to take over the meeting and talk about your agenda instead of letting myself and others from Everett's district in the room talk about issue we cared about. The whole meeting was not just about gas drilling nor was it about your attempt to fill your need to be in the press. Btw, the reporter was still there and the person filming was with you so way to pat yourself and ego on the back for having the foresight.

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mahs81

Feb-01-13 12:32 PM

As to the Headline, out of the 50 or so people there, only WendyLeeLynn, her lackey, a gentleman from Responsible Drilling Alliance, gentleman mentioned and his neighbors(2 or 3) and Alison Rupert, others did not really talk about gas drilling but instead, issue that were important to them.

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rick424

Feb-01-13 12:46 PM

Somehow a water well that is contaminated just might be important to that gentleman. I have been to these meetings in the past and the answers are usually, "we will look into that"

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mahs81

Feb-01-13 1:19 PM

rick424: "Somehow a water well that is contaminated just might be important to that gentleman" Did not say it was not important just stating that gas issues were not the only thing brought up.

"I have been to these meetings in the past and the answers are usually, "we will look into that"" I have too and sometimes that is the answer to the question/issue raised. Or, should an answer just simply be made up and the matter ignored?

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rick424

Feb-01-13 1:25 PM

"should an answer just simply be made up and the matter ignored?"

That is pretty much my point.

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eric88

Feb-01-13 1:52 PM

Maybe the opposition to drilling should have gone to the other legislators meeting this week. Pretty vacant crowd there and if he is totally for raising hotel taxes(due to drilling), he-- bent on the drilling tax dating back to eddies admin then he may just be for drilling as long as the tax $$ rolls in. but no outrage there.

Everett may have his faults but at least you know where he stands on the issues..... unlike someone else from the area.

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rick424

Feb-01-13 2:10 PM

Listen I am not in favor of the Hotel Tax either. I am, however, in favor of a real severance tax, not this joke called Act 13.

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linden13

Feb-01-13 2:26 PM

I have yet to see anyone in this area present any conclusive evidence of wells being contaminated. As for those of you are just simply bothered by progress or the fact that a tree or two have been cut down or that trucks are driving by the house... It is about time we have something happen in this area that even hints at the possibility of hope for jobs.

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rick424

Feb-01-13 2:34 PM

Well Linden. Just seems odd the water was fine and then comes the well next door and now the water isn't. The gentleman is correct, when something like this happens you are on your own. It is recommended that you have a baseline water test done, at great expense I might add, so if there is a problem you have somewhat of a chance in court. I asked if the state would pay for it and they said no, but you better get it done. If progress is screwing the little guys so the big guys can make more money, I want no part of it.

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mahs81

Feb-01-13 2:37 PM

""should an answer just simply be made up and the matter ignored?"

That is pretty much my point."

rick424: Funny, I asked a question last night after meeting was told that and got a phone from staff a few minutes ago with the answer. Based on the response, I am glad something was not just made up and ignored.

Now, I can agree with you that other elected official have not been so responsive or told me and the crowd what they thought we wanted to hear to make us go away.

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mahs81

Feb-01-13 2:44 PM

rick424: "Listen I am not in favor of the Hotel Tax either. I am, however, in favor of a real severance tax, not this joke called Act 13."

And just how much money do you believe would have found it's way back up river if we had a severance tax like the other local Rep wants? I can tell it would not be anywhere close to the $1 million plus the municipalities in his district are getting from the impact fee.

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