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Prison housing options will be revealed Friday

February 3, 2013

A consultant’s recommendations to alleviate Lycoming County’s increasing prison population will be unveiled at the next county Prison Board meeting scheduled at 8 a.m....

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streetmachine

Feb-03-13 7:55 AM

STOP PUTTING THEM IN THERE FOR PETTY CRIMES

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jeff33

Feb-03-13 9:16 AM

"New Prison" that prison is not that old!

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Rheana

Feb-03-13 4:43 PM

totally agree with streetmachine.

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tacosalad

Feb-03-13 4:58 PM

Streetmachine is right on target. If society truly believes a DUI, petty theft, or having a little weed on you is worthy of spending three months in jail, then they will have to realize the costs to house 1 percent of our population.

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LaughIn

Feb-04-13 12:44 AM

How about people just stop breaking the law? That would fix the over population problem in prisons

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aretesancus

Feb-04-13 8:22 AM

It's rare that someone gets sentenced to the county prison for possessing marijuana, "petty" theft (whatever THAT is), or DUI unless (1) he/she has prior criminal convictions or (2) it's a second or subsequent offense. Probation is the result for these types of crimes.

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MrShaman

Feb-04-13 8:33 AM

"How about people just stop breaking the law? That would fix the over population problem in prisons."

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...Except for those folks, on Wall Street, who were responsible for the Melt Down, right??

People get the "justice" they can afford.

As-long-as people of "means" get preferential-treatment, ya' can't very-well expect everyone-else to "play by the rules".

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spike2

Feb-04-13 10:13 AM

The "old prison is not large enough. There is no land for an expansion. As Artesancus points out, 1st time DUI's rarely go to jail unless unfit for arraignment. We do not have "petty theft". Fines and Costs and Domestic Relations, "civil contempts" do go to jail. Inmates without an acceptable parole plan stay in jail. Inmates of medium grade offenses without significant community ties are usually unable to get bail reductions. Pre-Release is a work facility for sentenced inmates who have employment or can be placed on a work crew. I believe the statistics will show most are pre-trial detainment or sentences less than 23 months.On one hand people want tougher sentences on the other hand you have prison overcrowding. I doubt that anyone saw the massive increases coming when LCP was built. Capacity is far greater than the other "old" prison. I doubt if the population can be reduced by enough "small crime" offenders to create enough space. Rock

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eric88

Feb-04-13 11:15 AM

Spike2- Excellent comment! Also 98% of the uninformed public does not realize that we have a county"for profit" prison system in place already. Between grant money and inmate rent the county makes a tidy profit off the "correctional racket" in the county.

Boo-hoo'ing by commissioners and sheriffs on transportation costs is a ruse....Does not cost the county extra..Merely cuts into the profit margin of shared grant money from the state.

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spike2

Feb-04-13 11:55 AM

Eric 88 - Thanks. (I'm not sure why the word rock appears). I also believe with the installation and usage of "online" hearings, arraignments, etc. the work load for Sheriff's transporting inmates will be reduced. My guess would be the "old" prison facility will be used for another purpose. Pre-Release could be moved to the jail location. This might actually enable more inmates to work who are PRC eligible.

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eric88

Feb-04-13 1:25 PM

All great points but you have to look at the big picture. The courthouse wants all of the beds filled at either facility. Full beds equals more grant money. New facility with even more beds means more income for the county. They will justify the investment for the future revenues. The county prison system is a HUGE cash cow for the county.

The big money is made from child support and probation violations. Average sentence for each is 3-12 months. Between rent and grants per prisoner lots of money flows through there straight to the county's account.

Also does anyone notice under sentencing in the paper theft and real crime rarely gets jailtime? The courts determine by the amount of $$ they can recieve from a prospective customer jailtime/income$ or slapped wrist and returned quickly back out on the street

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ray6770

Feb-04-13 1:49 PM

If you build it, they will come.

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spike2

Feb-04-13 3:06 PM

Eric88 - Have to disagree as to "real crime" not getting jail time. Most of the "real crime" becomes a state prison sentence. You never really see how long inmates are held pre-trial or the length of time between a guilty plea and sentencing. In all honesty, most cases receive little to no coverage nor do arrests.The D.U.I's are a long list. We can also complain about county coffers but in fairness the county hasn't raised taxes and seems to be solvent. I do see your point but I don't think our judges sentence according to incarceration profit. Judges are not county employees. This is just a tough situation with no easy answer. Perhaps more use of GPS devices would help with some offenders and good time could be a consideration for sentenced inmates if allowable with a county sentence.

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petesdragon

Feb-04-13 6:06 PM

How about Tents at the landfill. 12 inmates per tent 100 tents = room for 1200 Don't forget the pink jumpsuits too!

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ray6770

Feb-04-13 9:46 PM

The prison would not be over crowded if they would sentence criminals correctly, execute violent predators.

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LKirkland

Feb-07-13 2:56 AM

Someone on the Sun Gazette's Facebook page responded to this article by saying that they could just build up onto the current prison. Makes sense to me. So do some of the other comments here.

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