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OverwhelmedFebruary 9, 2013I am overwhelmed by the prison crowding issue. So many are in prison for things like being "deadbeat" dads. We have complete control over their bank accounts and employment checks.... Showing 25 of 38 comments Show More Comments
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Premier
That was a hard read.
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ladydawg4
So you're ok with someone being a deadbeat dad? Almost every person I've seen go to jail for being a deadbeat dad is in truth, a worthless excuse for a man, who should have never fathered children. Most men who don't pay for their children choose not to. They get jobs "under the table" so that the state can't garnish their wages for the court ordered amount they are to pay to the mother(s). And also, when these sperm donors go to jail, anything in their banks accounts/savings, can be given right to the mothers and honestly, going to jail, scares half the men into paying for their children because they don't want to go back. But then again, this must be another one of those "petty" crimes that people complain about going to jail for...
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CMReeder
Men who are labeled 'deadbeat Dads' is for a very good reason. They are men who avoid their financial responsibilities to their children but also to society in general.
Their failure to support swells the ranks of public assistance. Grew a generation of young men shirking their responsibilities.
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Bobbie2
"Almost every person I've seen go to jail for being a deadbeat dad is in truth, a worthless excuse for a man,"
Like elections having sex has consequences. A good number of the 51% moron demographic that voted for the current POTUS also picked this worthless excuse of a man to mate with.
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MrShaman
"So you're ok with someone being a deadbeat dad? Almost every person I've seen go to jail for being a deadbeat dad is in truth, a worthless excuse for a man, who should have never fathered children." - ladydawg4
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You DO realize they can't "father" children, on their own, right??
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CMReeder
Amazing Bobbie is slimier than ever. Goes to show how worthless the right really is.
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Bobbie2
"You DO realize they can't "father" children, on their own, right??"
Better inform Carlitos of that.
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spike2
I know we have a lot of "birth control" haters who post. However, since the 1970's birth control is readily available. We might want to take a look at women who are having a one night or few week relationship and fail to take any responsibility for possible pregnancy. Let's be honest, she is the one who will be pregnant and have the child for the next 18 years. We no longer live in an age where women can not make good salaries. I never got a dime of child support. I also never put there father, to whom I was married, in jail. I'm only saying to the single women who have children outside of marriage, take a look at what you are doing before you bring another child into the world. Take some responsibility for your actions too.
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Bobbie2
Thank you Spike
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BornHere
Agreed, good one spike.
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FormerEastEnder
People are in prison for one reason and one reason only... they were found guilty of their crimes. Period. If it is overcrowded, let the authorities decide how long the "deadbeats" stay in jail and let them experience what is waiting for them for not living up to their responsibilities. If not jail time, let them start cleaning graffiti, shovel snow.. rake leaves.. mow lawns.. anything that will make them productive and cost effective to the prison system. as my mand Sammy Davis Jr sang "Don't do the crime if you can't do the timeeeee".
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CMReeder
Bobbie you are slimy in characterization. Your are a disgusting excuse for a human being.
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CMReeder
Not all of the responsibilty falls to women either spike. Yet legislators make it more difficult for women to take responsibilty.
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LaughIn
CReeder, your 8:42 am post is on target
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Billtown101
Dead-beat dads, dead-beat dads... what a worn-out term. If Lycoming County alone, locked-up dead-beat moms (welfare collecting sperm banks), they'd need to build TWO prisons!
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MrShaman
"People are in prison for one reason and one reason only... they were found guilty of their crimes. Period." - FormerEastEnder
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Yeah...let's do the best (we can) to ignore the fact there's also a matter of whether-or-not those folks can afford quality legal-representation.
See:
Death Penalty Representation | Death Penalty Information Center
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LaughIn
"Deadbeats" all the way around Billtown, and CReeders post has a valid point.
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spike2
FormerEastEnder - failing to pay child support is a civil commitment not criminal. When a "father" is committed the woman still receives nothing.I would like to see a study on actual employment of the men who are committed, educational levels, job experience, etc.. Maybe we should consider some mandatory training for employment, find local businesses who need laborers, etc.. As a female, I completely disagree that the onus is not on the woman. Again, this is 2013. Options are readily available to prevent 99% of pregnancies. I wonder how many of the "fathers" were employed or had any level of employment at the time of conception. Women need to smarten up. If a man has a 10th grade education and no job can you reasonably expect a reasonable degree of support? If a woman just wants a child and doesn't care, she should be prepared to accept the responsibility of caring for the child. Let's be honest, most of these "fathers" are not ex-husbands. The men who w
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spike2
(who) were married should be held to a higher standard. Far too many women do one-nighters or short term relationships have no money to support a child and should not have a reasonable expectation of an 18 year income.
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MrShaman
"Again, this is 2013. Options are readily available to prevent 99% of pregnancies." - spike2
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...And, closer to 100%...if you live in Canada.
See:
Morning-After Pill Approved For Over-The-Counter Sales
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LaughIn
TOTALLY AGREE WITH SPIKE
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ladydawg4
It is up to both men and women to take responsiblity, MrShaman. But when a father decides to step out of his role as parent, this leaves no one else but the mother to take care of the child. Responsiblity lies on BOTH parents. Yes, women should make smarter choices on who they date but sometimes, accidents do happen, even when you take the best precautions. I have no sympathy for men or women who won't take responsiblity.
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ladydawg4
Far too many women do one-nighters or short term relationships have no money to support a child and should not have a reasonable expectation of an 18 year income. -Spike
So what you're saying is men who sleep around with multiple women, have numerous one-nighters, shouldn't be held responsible either? If a women should be held to a higher standard and be responsible for consequences, shouldn't the man too. I'm just confused on this double standard some people seem to have that it all the womens fault because they "should have known better".
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slickthedryfly
I agree with the writer. People need to make a living. Miss a dollar and the law comes and gets you. Men should automaticaly have 50/50 custody, be-it 6 month or weekly, and keep custody out of the courts, and forget about support. Equal Responsibility!!! Only jail real lawbreakers.
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FormerEastEnder
Spike.. I agree with your posting.. thank you for sharing
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