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Gerrymandering

February 10, 2013

The latest scam in Harrisburg is HB94, which would allocate the state's electoral votes by congressional district. This brazen piece of partisan politics is anti-democratic and unamerican....

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enigma

Feb-10-13 7:52 AM

John wants my vote to count less because I don't live in Philadelphia. But he may have a point. It's much better to have the process skewed in favor of his party, than to in any way reflect the desire of 95% of the geographic area of the state. BTW John, your numbers are wrong. Maybe one of those Democrats that you love so much is lying to you.

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CMReeder

Feb-10-13 8:47 AM

Geography does not vote in a election people do.

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JosephOtto

Feb-10-13 9:14 AM

I have an idea - how about the Republican party update (but not abandon) their core values into the 21st political century to make themselves more attractive to the majority of voters in a state, big cities and all.

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JosephOtto

Feb-10-13 9:18 AM

The Electoral College was set up by the Founders themselves. Are they no longer the all-knowing superhuman demigods they've always been described as?

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JerryfromRI

Feb-10-13 9:40 AM

As a non-Republican, I support the idea of PA awarding its electoral college delegates by congressional district.

PA10, as it stands today, is a gerrymandered GOP super-district. It's comprised of all or part of 15 counties and the incumbent won handily by more then 80,000 votes.

Federal campaign dollars aimed at moving the district in a future presidential election will have the added benefit of supporting local challengers.

A swing of only 17 points puts PA10 in play.

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JerryfromRI

Feb-10-13 9:44 AM

I also challenge you to find anyone, ANYONE, who can name all 15 counties that are part of PA10.

Ask yourself, am I best represented by a congressional district gerrymandered in this way?

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CHayes

Feb-10-13 9:55 AM

To paraphrase one of the best comments I've heard in a while, voters are supposed to pick their politicians, but gerrymandering allows politicians to pick their voters.

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rick424

Feb-10-13 10:57 AM

"The Electoral College was set up by the Founders themselves. Are they no longer the all-knowing superhuman demigods they've always been described as?"

As long as it has to do with the 2nd amendment they are superhuman, anything else they are chunk change, unless it benefits them.

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enigma

Feb-10-13 1:09 PM

"The Electoral College was set up by the Founders themselves. Are they no longer the all-knowing superhuman demigods they've always been described as?"

I fully support the electoral college. The founders knew what they were doing and we shouldn't change it, but they left it to the states to assign the delegates to the electoral college. Some states already assign delegate proportionally, and this helped Obama in the last election. I didn't hear anybody complaining about that. The new plan would have other advantages. We would not have to endure the number of political ads because if we were no longer a winner take all state, we wouldn't be a huge prize. That's fine with me, as I'm not a big fan of lies.

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spike2

Feb-10-13 1:47 PM

The Electoral College was set up to represent all voters. At the time of its creation, voters often traveled long distances to polls and were often unable to make the lengthy trips. Remember only white men voted. The location of polls, the method of tabulation, the voting machine have ended the usefulness of the college. Let's just do one-person, one vote. If anyone wants the I.D. in 2016, now is the time to start.

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CHayes

Feb-10-13 4:10 PM

" Some states already assign delegate proportionally, and this helped Obama in the last election. I didn't hear anybody complaining about that."

I disagree. The only two states that use the method Republicans have been hyping (the congressional district method), are ME and NE. Obama won Main by over 15 points, and Romney won NE by over 20. Even considering NE's larger population, the impact was minimal.

At the end of the day, Republicans have been touting a system that would have elected the guy that lost by over 5 million votes. That's bad for everyone.

Our congressional districts have been so screwed up by gerrymandering, that Republican congressional candidates managed to hold a 33 seat majority in the House after receiving over a million votes less than Democrats.in the 2012 election.

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CHayes

Feb-10-13 4:10 PM

Using allocation by congressional district simply poisons the electoral college with that very same gerrymandering. It's a ridiculously indefensible idea, which is why Republicans are abandoning It en masse.

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JerryfromRI

Feb-10-13 4:29 PM

@CHayes

I'm going to boldly make two predictions: Firstly, the PA GOP WILL pass some kind of change to the way PA's casts its electoral votes. Secondly, it will end up biting them in the rear-end.

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CHayes

Feb-10-13 5:32 PM

Sorry Jerry, but I respectfully disagree.

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JerryfromRI

Feb-10-13 5:49 PM

@CHayes

I understand. We'll have to wait till after the midterms to learn which of us is right. They won't move on this prior to...

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JohnWilsonKlees

Feb-10-13 7:32 PM

@JosephOtto The Republican Party is on the verge of becomming completely irrelevant. They can "update" their message but their still going to be sabotaged by the lack of cooperation within their own party. The insurgent tea party needs to ejected;then perhaps they tinker with their platform with some success. You can't serve 2 masters.

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USABorn

Feb-12-13 1:38 AM

"I'm most curious about what, if anything, the Democratic Party will do to expose and defeat this scam."

The democrats are too busy fighting voter ID so they can continue THEIR fraud.........

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CHayes

Feb-12-13 11:56 AM

Here I sit waiting to go in for a routine doctors appointment, and again I wasn't asked for ID. In fact, nobody that I've seen go up to any of the windows to check in for, any appointment with any doctor here has been asked for ID.

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Cattledude74

Feb-12-13 10:45 PM

gerry who?

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