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Get back to basics

February 11, 2013

A teacher was fired because he gave a Bible to a student who asked for one. Our country was built on Biblical principles, the Bible being the main textbook in schoo....

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wwhickok

Feb-11-13 6:20 AM

These letters are the kind of garbage that really p***es me off.

"All the great colleges began as Christian."

So you're saying that you can't be great unless you are 'owned' by a belief?

"The Founders built our government on the Bible."

So slavery is based on the bible huh? Yea..that's the type of trash I want my kid reading then.

"Tolerance has been embraced for everyone and everything except for respectability and Biblical principles, which are mocked by the majority"

That's complete b.s. There are Christians and there are people who don't care about anything or anyone, and then there are the rest of us, who see people for who they are, accept people for who they are, and choose not to judge.

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wwhickok

Feb-11-13 6:23 AM

"Abstinence is forbidden, but contraceptives are given, teaching that it's OK to be promiscuous."

Again, b.s. No one is saying "okay go sleep with whomever", they are being responsible by being smart enough to know, that there are kids out there not taught to be responsible and that there are too many kids out there having babies at young ages. It has nothing to do with encouraging kids to have sex.

"Everything is out of control - the government, the schools, the home."

And the Christians who think they're the only people that matter, the only people that have a solution, the only people that should be allowed to have an opinion on anything and should be in full control.

"Putting God first in our lives, our homes, our schools and government."

God doesn't belong in Government or School, imo. First of all, NO LAW should be based on christianity. This country is far too diverse to allow such a thing, christians are only a small part of th

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wwhickok

Feb-11-13 6:27 AM

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are concerned, the same thing applies. There are tons of kids of different races, religions, etc, you can't justify forcing the bible upon them.

"There is only one way to the Peace, Joy and Hope people long for, and that is to receive the gift of God's Son, the Lord Jesus Christ. He came to give us Abundant Life."

I think you meant to say.. "He came to give us a Abundant Life, Death, Disease, happiness, sorrow, fear, hatred, ever-judging christians, etc."

How do YOU know what people long for? You don't know anymore than I do what a person wants if you haven't asked.

This entire letter is a crock of ****. Want to know why christians come under such scrutiny? Read your own friggin' letter!

Oh and before some frickin' christian responds to me and starts preaching Gospel, I don't care and I don't want to hear it. I know how to read, if I was interested, I'd pick up a bible. Thanks but No Thanks.

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CHayes

Feb-11-13 6:55 AM

"We must go back to basics - putting God first in our lives, our homes, our schools and government."

The h ell you say. Put whatever you want in YOUR life and home, but your fairy tales have no place in our govt, or our schools. If you want your children brainwashed from a young age, send them to a parochial school or a madrasa.

Maybe the letter writer would be more comfortable in Iran.

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wwhickok

Feb-11-13 7:14 AM

I want to also make clear, I respect that Christians are firm in their beliefs, what I do not respect is how many Christians feel the need to try to push their beliefs upon everyon else. How their beliefs are the only ones that are relevant. And most importantly, how all life should be based upon their beliefs. That's a very incorrect notion. Christians, in the majority, are the most judging group there is.

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wwhickok

Feb-11-13 7:14 AM

I want to also make clear, I respect that Christians are firm in their beliefs, what I do not respect is how many Christians feel the need to try to push their beliefs upon everyon else. How their beliefs are the only ones that are relevant. And most importantly, how all life should be based upon their beliefs. That's a very incorrect notion. Christians, in the majority, are the most judging group there is.

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philunderwood

Feb-11-13 7:16 AM

First of all, evolution is no longer a theory and should be taught as science. There’s nothing to prove any religion, so if taught in school, it should be as history because religions are a part of history.

Second of all, religious morality shouldn’t be a basis for laws because religious morality is only meaningful for those believing in the particular religion.

We should teach personal responsibility and the fact that actions have consequences. Laws should be based upon protecting the rights of others.

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mikekerstetter

Feb-11-13 7:18 AM

It takes more faith to be an Atheist and believe that the universe and life itself came into being all on it's own from nothing than it does to believe that there was a creator who designed it all.

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wwhickok

Feb-11-13 7:21 AM

Does it? Or does it take more faith believe that the 'creator' just appeared out of thin air?

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wwhickok

Feb-11-13 7:24 AM

“Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you." Matthew 7:1-2

Yeah..us non-christians, can play this game too btw.

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philunderwood

Feb-11-13 7:43 AM

As one learns more about existence it becomes difficult not to speculate that there’s intelligence behind it. It makes at least as much sense to to believe there is intelligence there as it does to believe there isn’t.

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CMReeder

Feb-11-13 8:10 AM

Here is a good example of how news is distorted.

The Teacher was a long time substitute teacher. When a student arrived late the sub recited a passage from Matthew. When the student pressed on where that passage was from the teacher showed him from his personal Bible the passage in the New Testament.

The school board had voted not to hire the substitute for the 2012-2013 school year citing personal reasons.

Of course e-mails from various groups have it that the school fired him for giving out Bibles.

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Tgrammiex4

Feb-11-13 8:21 AM

WWhickok:I want to also make clear, I respect that Christians are firm in their beliefs, what I do not respect is how many Christians feel the need to try to push their beliefs upon everyon else. How their beliefs are the only ones that are relevant. And most importantly, how all life should be based upon their beliefs. That's a very incorrect notion. Christians, in the majority, are the most judging group there is. Most of this could be said about many religions. I agree when it pertains to all.( applies to political parties too in alot of ways)

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JosephOtto

Feb-11-13 8:39 AM

"It takes more faith to be an Atheist and believe that the universe and life itself came into being all on it's own from nothing than it does to believe that there was a creator who designed it all."

You're absolutely right. Fortunately, that's not what Atheists believe.

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wwhickok

Feb-11-13 8:47 AM

Grammie, I agree with that entirely. Frankly, I think the human race is just massively judging in its majority.

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CarlHiller

Feb-11-13 9:01 AM

When the missionary E. Stanley Jones met with Gandhi he asked him, "Mr. Gandhi, though you quote the words of Christ often, why is that you appear to so adamantly reject becoming his follower?"

Gandhi replied, "Oh, I don't reject Christ. I love Christ. It's just that so many of you Christians are so unlike Christ." This great man was more of a Christian than the majority of the organized Christian religion.

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SteelerFan

Feb-11-13 9:39 AM

Hazy: "Maybe the letter writer would be more comfortable in Iran"

I was thinking the same thing about you.

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SteelerFan

Feb-11-13 9:49 AM

As a Christian, it pains me to see all the vitriol that comes out in response to these kinds of letters.

Dorothy is merely expressing her opinion but it gives the athiests an opportunity to lash out because of her and other Christians' beliefs.

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wwhickok

Feb-11-13 9:58 AM

SF, first, I consider myself an Agnostic; Secondly, I'm certainly not lashing out at the writer, yes, I said "these are the kind of letters that tick me off"; The letter has a 'firmly stated opinion', I can appreciate that but it's also basically saying anyone who doesn't walk her path is wrong. THAT is the part that bothers me. The part where people say 'non-christians are what is wrong with the world'. Which she may not have said, but you can certain make a case for finding it in the context. I have a family full of God-fearing christians, genuinely good people, who know that I don't agree with them on a lot of things and I love them very much. So for me, this is not about hatred of a religious group. It's me believing I have a fuller appreciation for people, all people, than most of that religious group does.

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CMReeder

Feb-11-13 9:59 AM

It also gives the Christian faithful an opportunity to lash out at atheist and at other faiths.

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SteelerFan

Feb-11-13 10:10 AM

I have never lashed out at an athiest.

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Tgrammiex4

Feb-11-13 10:14 AM

wwhickok, most would prob. think I have an odd outlook on religion. I was raised by a Christian Sience Mom & Gram.Was never made to go to church, but was also allowed to go with friends to thier church, no matter what kind.Learned alot of differences, never found one I could commit to 100%. I believe the 10 commandments are a good guideline and have tried to live accordingly. I talk to God often and I know he listens as many prayers have been answered.I don't think you have to go to a building somewhere to profess your belief or love of God.He's right here with me always, always available.

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CMReeder

Feb-11-13 10:24 AM

So SF you are the only Christian faithful.

Tgrammiex4, my experience is similar and I believe God is with me also even though I no longer belong to a specific church.

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DavidBross

Feb-11-13 10:55 AM

"Teaching the Theory of Evolution has ruined countless lives - it says there is no God, no hope, no eternity, no purpose." Let's try this quote as it might have been said about 500 years ago, "Teaching the Theory of The Earth Moving Around The Sun has ruined countless lives - it says there is no God, no hope, no eternity, no purpose." In both cases, systematic observation (Science) simply pointed out information that didn't square with dogma. That doesn't say anything about the existence, or not, of a Creator.

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philunderwood

Feb-11-13 10:57 AM

People who willingly accept any intellectual or philosophical package deal are doing so because they lack confidence in their own ability to use their powers of reason to arrive at their own conclusions based upon their learning and experience. To bolster their confidence in that acceptance, they try and convince others to believe as they do.

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