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Prison plans to release nonviolent prisoners

February 15, 2013

Two new positions that were created to help ease a housing crunch at the Lycoming County Prison were authorized by commissioners Thursday....

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streetmachine

Feb-18-13 3:05 AM

VIOLENT CRIMINALS ARE MURDERS BURGLARS ROBBERS ,RAPE CHILD MOLESTERS , HOW MANY OF THEM DO YOU THINK ARE THERE, PEOPLE ARE IN THERE FOR HAVING A PROBLEM DRUGS ALCHOL NOTPAYING CHILD SUPPORT DRUG AND ALCHOL NEED REHABILTATION NOT INCARERRATION THE ONES WHO DONT OR CANT PAY THERE CHILD SUPPORT NEED TO GET A JOB OR ASK FOR SOME KIND OF WAY TO WORK IT OFF THE PRISON IS OVERFLOWED BECAUSE OF THIS USE ALTERNATIVE METHODS ALCHOL & DRUGS CAUSES SOME TO BE VIOLENT YES THEY NEED TREATMENT I PERSONALLY KNOW OF INDIVIDUAL WHO WAS SENT TO PRISON FOR A CRIME HE DID NOT COMMIT WAS A STRAIGHT A STUDENT IN SCHOOL HE BECAME A HARDEN CRIMINAL TO SOCIETY ????

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ocuddles

Feb-16-13 9:34 PM

I agree that child support violators should be among the first to be released. Are they going to let us know when they are going to start releasing people? This would be a good thing to know so that way everyone is aware of what the prison is doing

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spike2

Feb-16-13 6:51 AM

Laugh - pay to play is pretty old. You are showing our age. :-) As to sports at school, dump them if necessary. rather see better core subjects. Pool not needed.County and City are different taxes. The prison is a county facility. You are only paying all the various taxes if you own property. (not to open that can about homeowners v. investment landlords). Smid1972 - I disagree re: welfare. Not many single custodial fathers in the LCP. Further single individuals can no longer receive welfare. Welfare was about $102.00 per month for a "single" person, when it did exist. Even if you assume these people will apply for food stamps, the amount is still minimal compared to $30,000.00. Given the current county pay scale, the cost of 2 employees will be paid by the release of about 4 individuals (this includes the value of healthcare policy). Hopefully, the county will provide additional info and the SG will cover the same. This is only the 1st coverage.

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LaughIn

Feb-15-13 2:03 PM

Lets common base this issue, taxes pay for the Bowman Field problem and taxes pay for the prison. If you pay Williamsport taxes, you pay Lycoming County taxes. Instead of the city taxpayers fixing the city governments REALLY BAD ERROR IN JUDGEMENT in the case of Bowman Field, maybe those nonviolent 'gold star earners' from county lock up can assist in making two bad mistakes right. All of the thanks can go to the mayor for utilizing a stagnant system and holding 'nonviolent' criminals accountable for earning their stay. The mayor and city council could put on some white gloves and help correct the damages caused by a pipe dream that cost the taxpayers to short change their own needs. Don't they call it pay to play for kids in schools nowadays? I wonder how many kids couldn't play in a sport this year because their parents couldn't afford it? Who pays? The kids

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Smid1972

Feb-15-13 1:45 PM

So is it more cost effective to release these non-violent criminals at approx. $30,000 a year per person (in prison) just so they can go back on welfare and potentially cause more crime just to end back within our prison system. Come on SG this is the type of information we your readers want to know. Great you posted an article *pats on back* how about you get more information on the subject after all that is your job is it not.

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Smid1972

Feb-15-13 1:45 PM

OK so assuming by “non-violent” they are referring to people who owe money for court costs, parking ticket, DUI drivers, etc, etc, etc. I don’t see drug dealers being released but maybe drug users as they are not usually considered violent, I did say usually. I think the SG should have done more questioning though. One being what is defined as “non-violent”? We as law abiding citizens have a right to know what type of people are being released. Also, I have to question what the cost of monitoring these individuals is going to be? What happens to these individuals if they break the law again? Will they be thrown back in jail just to get released again due to space issues? I guess I just don’t understand the totality of the situation. I would say a lot, not all, of criminals that are in jail have been or are already part of the welfare system.

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spike2

Feb-15-13 1:05 PM

I can't disagree with you Laugh. I know you understand guidelines but I don't think most people understand PRS/OGS.

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LaughIn

Feb-15-13 11:54 AM

Our Juvenile System offers boot camp as a corrective measure, maybe the county should expand the work release facility and call it a day.

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LaughIn

Feb-15-13 11:19 AM

People understand classification Spike and of course the county will need to create more jobs to hawk watch irresponsible people. How about we have ADULT sex ed or parenting classes offered in the prison system? If these 'non-violent' people cannot pay for their responsibilities, than they need a job that pays! Someones idea of fixing Bowman Field was a good start.

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wwhickok

Feb-15-13 11:08 AM

THERICK, there is a reason I didn't mention it..today I'm in a really good mood and doing my best to stay that way. The new positions **** me off. Like you said, another way that taxes are going up. I agree with you Spike, not enough info, would like to see the break downs of current inmates/crimes. More understanding would definitely go a long way.

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wwhickok

Feb-15-13 11:03 AM

I'm with you there Eric

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spike2

Feb-15-13 11:02 AM

eric 88 is right. Know one seems to understand anything about classification. Second the article does not provide enough info. We already have people released under this status. We need additional officers to release more and more GPS bracelets. The individuals who currently supervise these types of releases are already carrying a full caseload. This is expanding an existing program. First thing everyone needs to see id a breakdown of offenses currently incarcerated. Felons are not getting released.

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THERICK

Feb-15-13 11:02 AM

After reading every ones comments not one person brought up the hiring of 2 new people to fill the 2 new positions they just created. These are two more salaries and health care packages,plus more equipment to purchase to monitor the prisoners plus whatever else they can think of. Sounds like taxes are going up again.

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LaughIn

Feb-15-13 11:01 AM

Eric expert? If the jail is flooded with individuals who don't care to pay for their children, I would surmise this county has a big problem with people not owning up to their responsibilities. Double wammy for taxpayers who end up with both bills.

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eric88

Feb-15-13 10:55 AM

wwhickok, not refering to you. Just very tired of people that have absolutely no idea how the system works. People would get an absolute reality check if the curtain was ever pulled back exposing the "county prison" or "courthouse" waste.

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wwhickok

Feb-15-13 9:28 AM

Eric if you're referring to any of the comments I made then I must passionately disagree with you 100%. Nothing I said is intended or even hinted to be 'expert', it's simply my personal opinion. While I agree that child support violaters should be among the first to be released, I don't think child support violaters should go without penalty. I think the system is flawed for child support without a doubt but I also think there are violators who deserve penalty. Having said that if we're laughing at anything...other than Shaman..it's gotta be your accusation of people offering opinions on this matter being uneducated simply for doing so.

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wwhickok

Feb-15-13 9:07 AM

There were supposed to be a few more spaces in my whole paragraph of comments.

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eric88

Feb-15-13 9:07 AM

So many experts here! Looks like spoonfed talking points and too many made for tv movies create polluted "expert opinions"

When nearly half of the county inmate population is not violent criminals but instead child support it makes me laugh on the expert opinions offered here. But of course the uneducated know best.

lock up the dirtbags and throw away the key. sorry for a touch of truth, back to the sheeple..

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msamerica101

Feb-15-13 8:56 AM

Personally, I see this plan as failing; however, let them try it. It will give them some time to figure out the real problem which should be trying harder to rehabilitate these people so they do not continue to be repeat offenders and return to the prison on a regular basis.

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wwhickok

Feb-15-13 8:46 AM

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wwhickok

Feb-15-13 8:45 AM

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violators. But regardless of your non-actual opinion on drug offenders, I don’t think those are the types of people (when it comes to major drug offenses) that we should be putting back out on the street. Spike stated a very logical opinion. I’d love to hear you do the same just once. The day you bring a logical argument to these ‘boards’ is probably the day*****freezes over.

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wwhickok

Feb-15-13 8:44 AM

“So...you don't like...what you don't understand?? That makes sense, to you?” “Firstly, prison SHOULD be intended to confine violent-criminals; AWAY from the general-public. In the interest of "punishing" people, you're in-favor of resurrecting debtors'-prisons?? If we're releasing people (who WOULD be monitored), early, because of stupid-laws...where's the problem? You'd like to resurrect those good ol'-timey "Blue Laws"???” “You need to reference "Police, Fire & Court", and SEE what "drug"-offenses are so prevalent.” First of all I think you need to reference your lips to my a** cheek. I think we can all agree, we get tired of seeing sarcastic comments that clearly fail to offer a logical or intelligent opinion from you Sham. I do see the logic in what Mr. Digit said about the ‘intentions of prisons; they’re not wrong. At the same time, I don’t necessarily have a problem with the early release and monitoring of SOME non-violent law vio

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wintergirl08

Feb-15-13 8:41 AM

(Hmmm, Nonviolent You Say? Just Plain Ridiculous.I Believe"The Keywords Are Setting These Jailbirds Free Upon The Residents Of This City! Stuck On Stupid They Are. For Those Not In Favor Say"I"

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MrShaman

Feb-15-13 8:27 AM

"Prison is meant to be a punishment for criminals. It is meant to be a determent. If we release prisoner's early what is that teaching them?" - 654321

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Firstly, prison SHOULD be intended to confine violent-criminals; AWAY from the general-public. In the interest of "punishing" people, you're in-favor of resurrecting debtors'-prisons??

If we're releasing people (who WOULD be monitored), early, because of stupid-laws...where's the problem? You'd like to resurrect those good ol'-timey "Blue Laws"???

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MrShaman

Feb-15-13 8:19 AM

"First of all, there is one MAJOR flaw in this idea. A lot of the people in the prison right now are in there for drug related issues, I believe. I have a SERIOUS problem with putting people back out on the street that are going to continue to make the drug problem in Williamsport worse." - wwhickok

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You need to reference "Police, Fire & Court", and SEE what "drug"-offenses are so prevalent.

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