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Prison plans to release nonviolent prisoners

February 15, 2013

Two new positions that were created to help ease a housing crunch at the Lycoming County Prison were authorized by commissioners Thursday....

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streetmachine

Feb-15-13 4:22 AM

that should empty out most of the over crowded prison everybody and there brother are put in there for somthing so petty

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MrShaman

Feb-15-13 5:07 AM

streetmachine Feb-15-13 4:22 AM Agree | Disagree

that should empty out most of the over crowded prison everybody and there brother are put in there for somthing so petty - streetmachine

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You'd better hope there are no politicians (out, there), who are looking to make a name for themselves, by initiating legislation to confine the English-challenged.

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wwhickok

Feb-15-13 6:53 AM

First of all, there is one MAJOR flaw in this idea. Streetmachine I think that you're completely wrong about your statement. A lot of the people in the prison right now are in there for drug related issues, I believe. (If I'm wrong feel free to back show it). I have a SERIOUS problem with putting people back out on the street that are going to continue to make the drug problem in Williamsport worse. They belong in prison. Especially when it comes to people selling drugs. Heck that's part of the reason all of these shooting have occurred lately, many of them are drug related.

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catlady

Feb-15-13 7:40 AM

My question is how do they define 'non-violent'? I don't like this idea at all. Are they going to let the citizens know who they released and what their crime was? The law-abiding citizens have a right to know.

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spike2

Feb-15-13 7:40 AM

Selling drugs is a felony, unlikely they will be released even though "non-violent". Would be nice if they would work with Andarko and other gas companies to obtain labor jobs for Fines and Costs and domestic arrears and make staying employed a release condition. Gas did promise lots of local jobs. I would bet most inmate commitments of this nature may not have significant criminal records.

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MrShaman

Feb-15-13 8:13 AM

"My question is how do they define 'non-violent'? I don't like this idea at all." - catlady

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So...you don't like...what you don't understand?? That makes sense, to you?

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654321

Feb-15-13 8:14 AM

Prison is meant to be a punishment for criminals. It is meant to be a determent. If we release prisoner's early what is that teaching them? The sentence has no meaning if we say, "Hey, we don't have any more beds here, you can go".

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654321

Feb-15-13 8:15 AM

*deterrent

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MrShaman

Feb-15-13 8:19 AM

"First of all, there is one MAJOR flaw in this idea. A lot of the people in the prison right now are in there for drug related issues, I believe. I have a SERIOUS problem with putting people back out on the street that are going to continue to make the drug problem in Williamsport worse." - wwhickok

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You need to reference "Police, Fire & Court", and SEE what "drug"-offenses are so prevalent.

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MrShaman

Feb-15-13 8:27 AM

"Prison is meant to be a punishment for criminals. It is meant to be a determent. If we release prisoner's early what is that teaching them?" - 654321

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Firstly, prison SHOULD be intended to confine violent-criminals; AWAY from the general-public. In the interest of "punishing" people, you're in-favor of resurrecting debtors'-prisons??

If we're releasing people (who WOULD be monitored), early, because of stupid-laws...where's the problem? You'd like to resurrect those good ol'-timey "Blue Laws"???

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wintergirl08

Feb-15-13 8:41 AM

(Hmmm, Nonviolent You Say? Just Plain Ridiculous.I Believe"The Keywords Are Setting These Jailbirds Free Upon The Residents Of This City! Stuck On Stupid They Are. For Those Not In Favor Say"I"

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wwhickok

Feb-15-13 8:44 AM

“So...you don't like...what you don't understand?? That makes sense, to you?” “Firstly, prison SHOULD be intended to confine violent-criminals; AWAY from the general-public. In the interest of "punishing" people, you're in-favor of resurrecting debtors'-prisons?? If we're releasing people (who WOULD be monitored), early, because of stupid-laws...where's the problem? You'd like to resurrect those good ol'-timey "Blue Laws"???” “You need to reference "Police, Fire & Court", and SEE what "drug"-offenses are so prevalent.” First of all I think you need to reference your lips to my a** cheek. I think we can all agree, we get tired of seeing sarcastic comments that clearly fail to offer a logical or intelligent opinion from you Sham. I do see the logic in what Mr. Digit said about the ‘intentions of prisons; they’re not wrong. At the same time, I don’t necessarily have a problem with the early release and monitoring of SOME non-violent law vio

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wwhickok

Feb-15-13 8:45 AM

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violators. But regardless of your non-actual opinion on drug offenders, I don’t think those are the types of people (when it comes to major drug offenses) that we should be putting back out on the street. Spike stated a very logical opinion. I’d love to hear you do the same just once. The day you bring a logical argument to these ‘boards’ is probably the day*****freezes over.

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wwhickok

Feb-15-13 8:46 AM

"I"

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msamerica101

Feb-15-13 8:56 AM

Personally, I see this plan as failing; however, let them try it. It will give them some time to figure out the real problem which should be trying harder to rehabilitate these people so they do not continue to be repeat offenders and return to the prison on a regular basis.

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eric88

Feb-15-13 9:07 AM

So many experts here! Looks like spoonfed talking points and too many made for tv movies create polluted "expert opinions"

When nearly half of the county inmate population is not violent criminals but instead child support it makes me laugh on the expert opinions offered here. But of course the uneducated know best.

lock up the dirtbags and throw away the key. sorry for a touch of truth, back to the sheeple..

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wwhickok

Feb-15-13 9:07 AM

There were supposed to be a few more spaces in my whole paragraph of comments.

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wwhickok

Feb-15-13 9:28 AM

Eric if you're referring to any of the comments I made then I must passionately disagree with you 100%. Nothing I said is intended or even hinted to be 'expert', it's simply my personal opinion. While I agree that child support violaters should be among the first to be released, I don't think child support violaters should go without penalty. I think the system is flawed for child support without a doubt but I also think there are violators who deserve penalty. Having said that if we're laughing at anything...other than Shaman..it's gotta be your accusation of people offering opinions on this matter being uneducated simply for doing so.

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eric88

Feb-15-13 10:55 AM

wwhickok, not refering to you. Just very tired of people that have absolutely no idea how the system works. People would get an absolute reality check if the curtain was ever pulled back exposing the "county prison" or "courthouse" waste.

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LaughIn

Feb-15-13 11:01 AM

Eric expert? If the jail is flooded with individuals who don't care to pay for their children, I would surmise this county has a big problem with people not owning up to their responsibilities. Double wammy for taxpayers who end up with both bills.

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THERICK

Feb-15-13 11:02 AM

After reading every ones comments not one person brought up the hiring of 2 new people to fill the 2 new positions they just created. These are two more salaries and health care packages,plus more equipment to purchase to monitor the prisoners plus whatever else they can think of. Sounds like taxes are going up again.

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spike2

Feb-15-13 11:02 AM

eric 88 is right. Know one seems to understand anything about classification. Second the article does not provide enough info. We already have people released under this status. We need additional officers to release more and more GPS bracelets. The individuals who currently supervise these types of releases are already carrying a full caseload. This is expanding an existing program. First thing everyone needs to see id a breakdown of offenses currently incarcerated. Felons are not getting released.

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wwhickok

Feb-15-13 11:03 AM

I'm with you there Eric

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wwhickok

Feb-15-13 11:08 AM

THERICK, there is a reason I didn't mention it..today I'm in a really good mood and doing my best to stay that way. The new positions **** me off. Like you said, another way that taxes are going up. I agree with you Spike, not enough info, would like to see the break downs of current inmates/crimes. More understanding would definitely go a long way.

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LaughIn

Feb-15-13 11:19 AM

People understand classification Spike and of course the county will need to create more jobs to hawk watch irresponsible people. How about we have ADULT sex ed or parenting classes offered in the prison system? If these 'non-violent' people cannot pay for their responsibilities, than they need a job that pays! Someones idea of fixing Bowman Field was a good start.

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