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Hammers and guns

February 21, 2013

The fine Americans in the NRA claim that hammers are as deadly as guns. I'll bet ol' Mindy McCready wouldn't be quite so dead if she'd had a hammer instead of a gun. Same with her husband....

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CHayes

Feb-23-13 6:02 PM

PS, I may be wrong, but I don't think its easy, to convert an AR to full auto. Not like a typical AK anyway.

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CHayes

Feb-23-13 6:01 PM

" Hayes, how do you suppose you are going to get those gang bangers in South Central LA to turn in their illegally modified ARs and AKs"

Well let's look at what you just asked me. Your asking me how "I'm" going to get those weapons off the streets? Well let's see, if they were illegally modified, that means they were legally purchased. Would those weapons have been legally available to modify if the '94 Assault Weapons Ban had been renewed? Probably not.

So, what you appear to be asking me, is how "I'm" going to clean up the mess made by the Republican party. The first step in cleaning up any mess, is stopping the bleeding, so clearly we need to pass a renewed Assault Weapons Ban, this time with no sunset provision.

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mikekerstetter

Feb-23-13 9:59 AM

msgjsheets,

I have to give Joe Biden credit, at least he has admitted what I have said all along. Shotguns are a much more effective weapon in close quarters than the so-called 'assault weapons' will ever be.

What I find strange is that he, basically, just told every kid in America that. Where is the moral outrage from the anti-gun people?

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msgjsheets

Feb-23-13 8:27 AM

Hayes, how do you suppose you are going to get those gang bangers in South Central LA to turn in their illegally modified ARs and AKs? Of course, the VP has given us all permission to defend ourselves with a double barrel shotgun against them. The lack of the anti-gun crowd to put any common sense to their zeal to remove guns continues to amaze me.

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bryan48

Feb-23-13 8:17 AM

Odd how many local 2nd Amendment and U.S. history experts are often confused by basic English homophones.

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mikekerstetter

Feb-23-13 8:07 AM

Well, it's one of two scenarios.

1) they had a kit to build a legal AK-47 look-a-like that was semiautomatic

or

2) they were building an illegal AK-47 with illegal parts and Buff should have reported what he saw to authorities.

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CHayes

Feb-23-13 7:20 AM

Here Mike I'll just refresh your memory:

Buff: "Hi chayes- ak knockoffs are made a lot closer to home than one might think. In the large building that houses my mma studio, there is s machine shop. I stopped in one night to see the landlord, a local, and I found another guy I know, younger than I and also a local, assembling a knockoff ak. He showed me the gun, proceeded to tell me all about it and the showed me pics on his iphone of the dozen or so he had already built for folks."

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CHayes

Feb-23-13 7:18 AM

"And the reality is that in none of the cases has an illegally modified semiautomatic rifle been used in these mass murder suicides."

Never been to south central LA huh?

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CHayes

Feb-23-13 7:17 AM

"You talk like if you change a nut here and a screw there you can simply change a semi-auto to full automatic using common hardware parts."

No, I don't talk like that at all. I(f you don't have the parts (and you used to be able to buy them online), you need to have a friend that's a machinist, like the guy Buff talked to. If you have a guy that can and will machine a new metal plate for you with the holes in the right place, it's game on.

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mikekerstetter

Feb-23-13 4:33 AM

CHayes-"I'm not confused at all. Many of the AK47's sold in the US are AK47's with a couple parts modified to prevent full auto fire. Maybe you missed the part about all the instructions online about how to convert them to full auto."

No, you're not confused, you willingly choose to ignore facts.

You talk like if you change a nut here and a screw there you can simply change a semi-auto to full automatic using common hardware parts. That's not the case at all. You need to find rare (in the US) and illegal parts and modify others (read machine shop) to change the whole action of the gun. Not quite the simple do-it-yourself project you make it our to be.

And the reality is that in none of the cases has an illegally modified semiautomatic rifle been used in these mass murder suicides. So you're setting up strawman arguments to make a point that is invalid.

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CHayes

Feb-22-13 10:58 AM

" I see they are still lying about the Newtown shooter using an AR15. When does the lying stop?"

That's not a lie at all.

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CHayes

Feb-22-13 10:52 AM

Maybe we should sell hand grenades too wwhickok, as long as they have a little drop of epoxy on them to "prevent" the pin from being pulled.

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USABorn

Feb-22-13 10:49 AM

And this from yet another Democrat:

"Stating that neither the Sandy Hook Advisory Commission he created, nor the Connecticut legislature’s bipartisan committee has moved fast enough on measures to curb gun violence, Gov. Dannel Malloy (D) took matters into his own hands by unveiling his own proposals on Thursday. Malloy’s plan would broaden his state’s ban on weapons to include the AR-15 Bushmaster rifle, the type of firearm allegedly used by the Newtown shooter, lower magazine capacities from 30 to 10, and expand background checks."

I see they are still lying about the Newtown shooter using an AR15. When does the lying stop? When the dems quit moving their lips!!!

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CHayes

Feb-22-13 10:49 AM

I'm not confused at all. Many of the AK47's sold in the US are AK47's with a couple parts modified to prevent full auto fire. Maybe you missed the part about all the instructions online about how to convert them to full auto.

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wwhickok

Feb-22-13 9:44 AM

Um, I'm not confused at all Hayes. I think you might be the one that is confused.

Hayes you're talking about semantics now. I'm talking about a real, true, Automatic weapon and you're taking bits and pieces of someone's comment, like you always do, and making it about something it's not. A semi-auto "knock off" isn't an Automatic AK47..two COMPLETELY different things.

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CHayes

Feb-22-13 9:43 AM

" In 4 years if the Republican party can get it's act together and get a solid candidate elected"

Sorry msgj, but I think you left a zero off your number.

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msgjsheets

Feb-22-13 9:14 AM

Just a side thought. In 4 years if the Republican party can get it's act together and get a solid candidate elected, I hope the first thing he does on inauguration day is sign an Executive Order banning unions and collective bargaining just so I can watch Chuck spin on his heals about abuse of power and government reaching into our lives. Yes friends, I have a dream......

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msgjsheets

Feb-22-13 9:12 AM

Erik, the left will not try to amend he Constitution to take away our guns. The Bill of Rights cannot be amended and they don't see a need to to. There policies however are all geared toward total confiscation and removal of guns. They cannot meet their goals if they don't. They will try to take semi's away as not necessary and too dangerous. Then they will make it expensive through permits, taxes and registration fees and by making ammunition so expensive that average law abiding citizens will voluntarily give up their guns. Funny how every time this subject came up before the election we were told how much President Obama and VP Biden supported gun rights. Different story now though. There has been some news about how much ammo has be purchased by the feds. My theory, they just want buy it cheap and drive up the price so average gun owners give up.

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msgjsheets

Feb-22-13 9:02 AM

Sometimes absurdity can by used to illustrate a point and sometimes it just points how absurd an opinion is. Dan once again uses the latter. If Mindy McMcready wanted to kill herself she did not need a gun to do so. Just because she chose to do so and Adam Lanza decided to use several to commit his violent crimes does not justify taking away law abiding citizens abilities to protect themselves from those who chose to do harm. As for Hayes's statement that knock off Aks and Ars can be converted to full auto. If you have the parts and the skills it can be done, but guess what it is illegal and there are very few gun owners who actually have the desire to break the law and do it. Funny how many on here want to legalize drugs because we can't win the war on them but want to take away law abiding citizens rights away. The same people who want to grant citizenship to those who break the laws by ILLEGALLY immigrating here and then must commit some type of identity fraud in order to work.

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CHayes

Feb-22-13 6:08 AM

Perhaps Mike you should check out the free online book "The AK47: Full Auto Conversion for Dummies" By Royi “Uncle Ro” Eltink, that can easily be downloaded in PDF. Sounds like something the guy Buff met may have.

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CHayes

Feb-22-13 6:02 AM

The reason they're "knock offs" Mikey boy, is that for the most part they aren't Russian. They're mostly, but not exclusively Eastern European and Chinese. Go and look at what Atlantic Firearms is selling online.

You mean to tell me you didn't know that?

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CHayes

Feb-22-13 5:58 AM

"Hayes hasn't figured out yet that a true assault rifle is full automatic or select fire. The 'AK47 knockoffs' are look alike semiauto's."

Actually, they aren't Captain Semantics. They can be fairly easily converted to full auto.

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Bufftrev1

Feb-21-13 9:21 PM

My duty?? No chance, not about to rat out my friends.. the whole operation is taking place a few yards from the police station, the landlord is a person of impeccable reputation, so it is unlikely that anything illegal is taking place.

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Premier

Feb-21-13 6:03 PM

Buff, if your story is correct it is your duty to report your acquaintance.

What that person maybe doing bears investigating.

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Bufftrev1

Feb-21-13 5:00 PM

Hi chayes- ak knockoffs are made a lot closer to home than one might think. In the large building that houses my mma studio, there is s machine shop. I stopped in one night to see the landlord, a local, and I found another guy I know, younger than I and also a local, assembling a knockoff ak. He showed me the gun, proceeded to tell me all about it and the showed me pics on his iphone of the dozen or so he had already built for folks. I don't recall if they were full on auto but I came away from the encounter thinking that if they weren't, my acquaintance could accomodate such a request.

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