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Public reacts as JS school closing is set

February 26, 2013

JERSEY SHORE — The Jersey Shore Area School Board on Monday took the next step in a potential elementary school closure, setting a public hearing at the high school for 7 p.m. March 14....

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fromtheport

Feb-26-13 7:08 AM

These parents have no real concern. younger kids riding with older kids, attending school during construction? If these are your only real concerns your life must be pretty good. CLOSE THE SCHOOL! Lets start saving money now. Do you want your kid riding a bus with older students or do you want them to be financially struggling when they get older from higher and higher tax burdens?

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jeff33

Feb-26-13 8:00 AM

Amish are planning on buying the school and making it some kind of retail outlet, they knew this was going to happen, they were already throwing some money around and will buy the school and pay in CASH and never pay a cent in taxes or ever pay a cent in property taxes!

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butterfly77

Feb-26-13 8:02 AM

The questions some of these parents raise are VALID. I do not want my 4th grader in a school with 7th graders WITHOUT knowing how they will be kept apart. Same with my 8th grader in a school with 12th graders. I understand the need to close a school/schools to save programs. I recommend people come sit in their cars at dismissal time and see the real traffice situation. I have and adding 1-3 more schools worth of parents at drop off/pick up IS going to create a TRAFFIC PROBLEM. It's already congested and traffic is stand still while kids get picked up. I live 1.3 miles from the school and my daughter sits at the middle school for an hour before class even starts. Then another 40 minutes at the end of the day. She isnt the only one. I think the board totally missed the point Ms. Zell made about bullying. We trust the school with our childs safety when they go there. Yet the bullying still goes on!!!1

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andy33

Feb-26-13 8:08 AM

Funny how the same old people speak out against any consolidation..they all have a personal agenda...Stahl has been fighting this from the beginning [protecting the valley kiddies from the bad JS kiddies]...Burt Francis speaking for his daughter [R. Bierly] who JUST happens to be the president of the teachers UNION....they must be worried! All taxpayers will be benefited from this consolidation......all ....ALL students will benefit....those with a personal agenda will be on the loosing end. Lots of districts have needed to close schools....why are these people such a roadblock?

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andy33

Feb-26-13 8:11 AM

Little Butterfly....grow up....if you are panic stricken about bullying...then volunteer to ride the bus...be part of a solution...not another problem!....Bullying is a parent problem....got that A PARENT PROBLEM!!!! not a school problem

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andy33

Feb-26-13 8:12 AM

Jeff...what are you smoking NOW????

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jeff33

Feb-26-13 8:31 AM

Trust me the Amish will own that school, as for smoking I think I will. The wildwood weed grows wild on the farm and I think I'll head out to the barn!

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LaughIn

Feb-26-13 8:51 AM

Bullying examples demonstrated rather well last night on behalf of the parents speaking from the podium, wouldn't you agree JS board members, administrators and staff? Mr. Harry Miller, board member and parent pointed out to the audience that their actions were being observed by their children and in fact bullying is an issue because parents DO NOT deal with it, they do it. Ms. Madam President was drilled for knowing to much information and sharing it with her constituents on the McClains Save Our School Website. How did the young lady present her dialogue, YINS PEOPLE NEED TO SHOW MORE RESPECT FOR US PEOPLE and then preceded to put down the board. I have never seen such angry, rude, mean and nasty individuals in all of my life. Be responsible JSASD board and listen to your administrators who have the student and taxpayer in mind. The union head can plea all she wants, the real savings will be seen in staff reductions. Why is someone not telling the truth about savings?

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LaughIn

Feb-26-13 9:16 AM

Butterfly77, why does your child stand at the Junior High school for so long before and after school? Can she not walk 1.3 miles?

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biobabycj

Feb-26-13 9:57 AM

the issue i am reading, and from every other meeting ive read about, the issue here is the board HAS to have these meetings but they give two craps less about what you want, this is evident. the body language, the looking bored, its all because they HAVE to have this meeting but all in all they dont care, they want to do what they want to do so theres more money for their almighty raise, thats what you DONT see.. is it really going to cost less to close nipp and remodel rebuild js elem? seems to mee that js elem is going to be over populated because of all these schools they want closed moving there.

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biobabycj

Feb-26-13 10:04 AM

stuff must have changed since i was in school.. in elem school i had to wait at the bus stop and ride the bus with senior high kids. i got bullied because i was poor and not popular. kids threw iceballs and walnuts at me. but, we still had to ride the same bus.. even when i moved to jsasd, in 5th grade, we had seniors riding our bus. it wasnt a big deal if the busdriver had balls and watched what was going on. we had two different bus drivers that gave people the devil. i liked them both. i really dont think the kids should be going to schools with kids that are four grades ahead of them though. apparently andy doesnt have young children, or kids that get bullied or even kids in school anymore. if you did, andy, and your fourth grader came home with the knowledge of the town whore, youd kinda worry what was going on too. but, you appear as you dont give two craps.

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mahs81

Feb-26-13 10:35 AM

jeff33: Taxes the Amish pay include federal and state income taxes, property taxes and sales tax. They do not pay Social Security or Unemployment taxes as they do not participate in those systems. So if the Amish want to buy the school, great it will put the land and building on the tax rolls an gain some revenue for the county, township and school district.

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Luey22

Feb-26-13 11:06 AM

Kudos to the student maintenance team and advisors for beautifing our schools. What a great idea for future students to show pride and gain knowledge on future workforce options. What a positive thing and I bet those parents are very proud of their children. I am so thankful that the little boy who started the Pledge of Allegiance left the building before the walnut throwing started biobabycj. To sit in the audience and listen to what was being said around me was hard enough. I applauded Harry Miller for his words to everyone, because there were children present in the room and parents blaming everyone but themselves. If sending children from the valley to town is that big of an issue, I would hope that the parents would get involved in PTA. I agree with fromtheport, future burdens are what I think the districts administrators are planning for. As for the Amish stores, I hope so because they are part of this community and help with my food bill.

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andy33

Feb-26-13 12:05 PM

BioBaby....you are so full of s#h^i*t...you post: "body language, the looking bored, its all because they HAVE to have this meeting but all in all they dont care, they want to do what they want to do so theres more money for their almighty raise, thats what you DONT see."

The board members DON'T....DON'T get a paycheck...do you live in a vacuum or are you listening to the 'opposition' too much? They do all this work for free and have to put up with audience ABUSE to boot!

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LaughIn

Feb-26-13 1:27 PM

"Lots of districts have had to close school"- Andy33

Why are school directors and administrators in the Jersey Shore School District the blame for this? It would be implied by 'some' tax payers that they are the reason every school district within a 200 mile radius have to do this. Where is this logic coming from?

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NufSaid6

Feb-26-13 2:15 PM

LaughIn...From what I heard last night, the president, who interrupted the speaker, wasn't blamed for providing too much information. She was asked who she represented in her comments. Now we know. She posts comments as a taxpayer. Not on behalf of the entire school board. Great. Now we know. I'm not sure why she was so upset over the question. Seems legit to me. And I was listening last night...didn't hear the speaker say "Yins people." And I've checked out the FB site. Seems Helm is able to leave an abundance of information (which is great!) online, but cannot utter a single word during board meetings. The ones who seem to be concerned WANT to be part of the solution (and there is more than just one solution people). But seriously seems like they're beating their heads against the wall. Finally, I've heard "those people" say over and over that this consolidation may be our best option, but let's explore all other options before going to the extreme. Can't hurt.

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LaughIn

Feb-26-13 2:47 PM

Nufsaid6, your point makes little sense to anyone really. You made it your point to show parents and taxpayers that our board representatives are knowledgeable and do care about their community. To state you get no answers and then state that Ms. Helm wasted her 40 plus posts for the fun of it because she is only a taxpayer is rather strange. Another reasoning problem occurring here. Maybe what you should have said to her was stay off of my website.

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LaughIn

Feb-26-13 3:13 PM

Francis believes that if the district and public work together, a solution can be found. "If we can work together we will help you make the right decision." The right decisions have been made, move forward. Board members need to listen to what the majority of their constituents are saying, not .102% of those opposed. I have attended many school closing hearings over my 70+ years on Earth and I have NEVER, not once heard people from the audience personally go after anyone the way they do at these board meetings. I credit all board members for their service and taking time to answer questions that they can. Good luck board and God Bless

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andy33

Feb-26-13 3:33 PM

Nuf...this is an educational moment for you and a few other people who have no clue about school boards and procedure...you wrote..." Seems Helm is able to leave an abundance of information (which is great!) online, but cannot utter a single word during board meetings."

The job of the school board president is to run the meetings....THAT'S ALL!!!!...she can post on FB and other venue as a taxpayer and parent...but CANNOT express a personal opinion from her seat...She has put up with a lot of crap from the audience...as have others on this board...ENOUGH...you people act just like backwoods hicks...brought up out on the north forty...no manners or respect for those that are giving their time and energy to salvage this district from financial ruin....

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andy33

Feb-26-13 3:46 PM

Been reading the posts on SOSD FB page....These people must live on another planet. Every question HAS been answered...clean out your ears and try reading. The board does NOT answer any question...ever....get it!..Questions must be directed to the administration....try that. You'll never just shut up and get focused on the task at hand. It seems like you all...aka...the 'opposition' have adopted a propaganda and destroy ploy used by famous politicians....shame on you...

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MoMRNRmR

Feb-26-13 4:19 PM

It sounds like they need to start paying the School Board Members in Jersey Shore. Truly, think about it! They are elected officials, that have to put up with verbal abuse by the same people that elect them. Do you really think that board members need to speak out at board meets, when the audience don't hear what the TOPIC is? They our ridiculed if they do, and ridiculed if they don't! I really can't believe that they would sign up for such abuse! Funny thing is....I believe that school board members run for these positions because they CARE about what happens in the school district and all the students within it. At times I think that the audience at the school board meetings are Bully’s, really!

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MoMRNRmR

Feb-26-13 4:20 PM

Bullying is a big problem in every school district; not just Jersey Shore! Unfortunately, bullying behaviors starts at home. I agree with Andy- The problem I see with this is Parenting skills, not a school board problem. Bullying starts in the home! Parents need to be parents, if your child is a victim of a Bully, Volunteer to be a bus monitor to point out the true problem. When at the school board meeting the audience needs to stick to the TOPIC, sorry consolidation will happen, the people that will be affected need to stop lashing out at the elected school board members that really care.

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Luey22

Feb-26-13 4:42 PM

"Now We Know", now WE know what exactly nufsaid6? That board members are taxpayers and parents? How crazy a post, really!!!!! Now We Know that people aren't implanted to spy on your webpage? It was my understanding that the Save Our District Website invited parents, taxpayers and board members. I would ASSUME that maybe LaughIn is correct, only those who post lies and NOT for the cause.. should subscribe. I would discontinue any lip service board and it is apparent they don't want you at any town meetings either. The nerve of any board member who cares about the community attending NUFS 5 seconds of fame should be condemned to playground bullying.....REAL APPARENT PEOPLE

Just what is the TOPIC? Closing a school or consolidation....get with the agenda

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NufSaid6

Feb-26-13 4:55 PM

I've heard so many great suggestions from these "backwoods hicks" at board meetings that aren't taken seriously. I don't understand why not. Why not get true appraisals for out buildings? It's free. Can't hurt. And then we'd know. Knowledge is power, huh? And if it's not a viable option, move on. And where did I say Helm "wasted her comments online." Didn't say that. My main point is that there is a disconnect between the board and their constituents. The end. There's no reason that gap cannot be bridged. It just seems that the effort is one-sided and is unfortunate considering any decision made one way or another effects the town as a whole. We'll never all agree. But we all could certainly try a little harder. Wouldn't you agree?

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NufSaid6

Feb-26-13 5:01 PM

Luey...simply "Now we know." That's it. I'm not a big conspiracy theory individual. My point on that was, move on...wasn't really a big deal. So we know, great, move on. So much emphasis put on such a tiny thing. And you're right...consolidation or closing a school. Our heads are spinning.

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