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Grumpy Old Party

March 3, 2013

What is WRONG with the GOP? I always considered myself a conservative Republican farmer i.e. let me alone! But lately I am just about to change my party registration....

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rick424

Mar-03-13 12:53 AM

I like this guy. I know several republicans at work that left the party. They are a dying bread. I used to be a republican but lately it seems like the party has been taken over by the religious right. The last two candidates struggled to please them and they both lost. I just heard today that some leaders in the party feel it needs to change.

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mikekerstetter

Mar-03-13 4:52 AM

Religious right?? That's laughable.

It isn't just the GOP that is at fault for our stagnation. It's just as much those on the left. Neither party is willing to compromise.

Look at the comments here on the SG. The fact is there can be little civil disagreement on issues, let alone meaningful compromise.

Letters like this do nothing to solve any problems. They may make those from the left feel good (or the right, if it's a Democrat saying it about their party), but it only serves to further the ever increasing gap between the two parties.

The inability to work together and compromise is the biggest challenge we face right now.

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mikekerstetter

Mar-03-13 5:41 AM

After rereading his letter, I think he would do well to switch parties. His idea of compromise is to get out of bed to feed the cows when his wife has to get up to go to work. So on her days off she is also getting up to feed the cows so he can stay in bed. He is, after all, retired. Doesn't sound like much of a compromise to me.

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VinceKnauff

Mar-03-13 5:43 AM

This is one confused letter writer. Me thinks that he is a Liberal trying to sound like a conservative, and failing badly at it.

Rick - nice try - "I know several republicans at work that left the party. They are a dying bread." I'll bet you heard one person talking about his brother in law who was thinking about leaving the GOP and ran with that thinking it was a trend. RINO's are the ones killing the GOP, not the religious right.

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CHayes

Mar-03-13 6:10 AM

"It isn't just the GOP that is at fault for our stagnation. It's just as much those on the left. Neither party is willing to compromise."

Nah. In the last year, the Republican party has gotten our country's credit rating lowered, and cost us around a million jobs with the sequester. On that last item, it's becoming increasingly clear that the Republican leadership wasn't even aware what the President was offering in the negotiation. Apparently they just assumed they were negotiating with the fantasy "marxist/socialist/Kenyan/secret muslim" of Fox "News" myth, instead of actually looking at the offer.

They must have a lot of time on their hands, because they were able to find time, and taxpayer dollars to hold over THIRTY votes to repeal the ACA, that they knew were going nowhere.

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CHayes

Mar-03-13 6:10 AM

The Republican party basically strapped the sequester to themselves like a suicide bomb belt, and threw themselves at our country. They seem to have in their mind that what's bad for America, is good for them.

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Tedeaux

Mar-03-13 6:35 AM

CHayes wrote: "cost us a million jobs." Really? And where did you get that little tidbit of information? The "sequestration" hasn't even been effect for a week yet and already the left has issued the new talking points to push!

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Ritty77

Mar-03-13 6:44 AM

The sequester was Obama's idea and he signed it into law.

The House GOP passed two bills to avoid it, but they were not offered a vote in the Senate.

The Senate tried to pass a bill that would give Obama more flexibility to make the reductions in growth less "painful." Obama said he would veto such a bill so that he could ensure the "cuts" be as painful as possible.

Government has spent about $600 billion more each of the last four years than it spent in 2008 . If a two percent cut in massive spending results in a million jobs lost then two things should be obvious: There will be an incredible loss of jobs when we actually make real cuts, and our citizens economic prosperity relies way too heavily on government spending.

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CHayes

Mar-03-13 7:34 AM

" The sequester was Obama's idea"

Sure it was, because only a moron would let it happen, rather than negotiate in good faith. Apparently the Republicans in Congress were too busy with other affairs (like strapping on the bomb belt) to even bother looking at what the President had to offer. They literally didn't even realize the President was asking for their long sought.after chained CPI.

The only Republican that has enough sense to have wanted a negotiated solution is Mitt Romney. Now that the Republican party has politically martyred themselves again, and done more damage to the US economy, I think its time to make their unofficial motto official; "Ignorance is Strength".

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eriklatranyi

Mar-03-13 7:39 AM

I dare one liberal here to show me a piece of legislation written by this White House that was introduced into Congress.

All we hear are speeches, but no legislation.

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Ritty77

Mar-03-13 7:48 AM

"I think its time to make their unofficial motto official; "Ignorance is Strength"."

Sorry, that's already taken. It's how Democrats get elected.

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mikekerstetter

Mar-03-13 7:58 AM

CHayes-"Sure it was, because only a moron would let it happen, rather than negotiate in good faith."

Well, that's a first step. Agreeing that Obama had no intentions of bargaining in good faith.

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mikekerstetter

Mar-03-13 8:02 AM

CHayes-"Nah. In the last year, the Republican party has gotten our country's credit rating lowered, and cost us around a million jobs with the sequester."

Sure they did. And the Democrats had no part in it, right? Who is it that has passed a budget every year and sent it to the Senate only to have it die in committee? You're delusional if you think Obama and the Dems are negotiating in good faith.

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CHayes

Mar-03-13 8:05 AM

" I dare one liberal here to show me a piece of legislation written by this White House that was introduced into Congress."

The White House is supposed to write legislation? Isn't that Congress' job?

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CMReeder

Mar-03-13 8:06 AM

A republican who is retired writes about today's republican party and the right ignores him and his observations.

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Bufftrev1

Mar-03-13 8:13 AM

The individual mandate, cap and trade, and a budget deal including hikes and cuts were all initiatives supported by republicans until President Barack Obama was elected. So was wall st reform, there is nothing conservative about wall street gambling with others money and then forcing taxpayers to bail them out. Romney supported the ibdividual mandate as recently as 09, McConnell cap and trade in 07.. what happened? As President Obama and congressional democrats moved to the center, ie compromised, republicans have moved further right. There are articles articulating thiis by Salten and Klein that cite these examples and more, easily found by google. Clinton/ Warren in 2016!

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CMReeder

Mar-03-13 8:14 AM

The JOBS Act, White House did send a plan to Congress to avoid the sequester.

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CHayes

Mar-03-13 8:15 AM

It's astounding really when you look at what the President was offering Speaker Boehner. Chained CPI, closing tax loopholes, I mean things Republicans have been saying they wanted. Looks like they didn't even read it.

Again, maybe they should have taped it to an assault rifle, or a fetus,.or a hooker, or maybe a lobbyist, and sent it over. At the end of the day, Republicans were more comfortable cutting veterans benefits than working with the President, and isn't that a shame.

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rick424

Mar-03-13 8:15 AM

Vince. I did not know what RINO was so I looked it up. I agree to a point but I still stand behind the religious right, or the silent majority as they used to be called. As for my work, not true. There have been two people in my group, and I work with a group of 6, that change under the Bush years. I personally know 4 others that have changed under the Bush years. I also know several that have registered as independents under the Bush years. Hey maybe it is Bush and Cheney that are killing the party. Nice to know you at least admit the party is dying.

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JerryfromRI

Mar-03-13 8:17 AM

I'd like to send out a special thank you to the "don't let the door hit you when you leave" crowd, because it is your reaction to letters like this that made Obama's reelection possible.

Enjoy.

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gavinf56

Mar-03-13 8:25 AM

"It's astounding really when you look at what the President was offering Speaker Boehner. Chained CPI, closing tax loopholes, I mean things Republicans have been saying they wanted. Looks like they didn't even read it." - CHayes

Yea, so says Ezra Klein. Drink

What Ezra fails to tell you is that none of those proposals will hit the Senate floor. Now, who controls the Senate?

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CHayes

Mar-03-13 8:28 AM

Morning Gavin. You guys know what else got cut in the sequester? Embassy security. Again.

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gavinf56

Mar-03-13 8:28 AM

2 options;

The proposals by the Presidents National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform or,

Let the sequester cuts happen along with the expiration of ALL of the Bush tax cuts.

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gavinf56

Mar-03-13 8:33 AM

Yea, I read Ezra's blog yesterday. I should also not that I take everything he says with a grain of salt.

It's also funny that those same talking points are being repeated by Chris Hayes this morning.

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CHayes

Mar-03-13 8:50 AM

" It's also funny that those same talking points are being repeated by Chris Hayes this morning."

Geez Gav, because I read an article and quoted its content, that constitutes "talking points"? I wasn't really very slippery about it either, since yesterday I referenced the article by name, and recommended people check it out.

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