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Local airport control tower on list to close

March 5, 2013

Sequestration just hit close to home....

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Tedeaux

Mar-05-13 4:02 AM

I believe there are two commercial passenger flights in and out of Williamsport. One early and one late flight back and forth to Philadelphia. It seems that the airline could easily pick up the contract out cost of paying these control tower employees. Having said that, it would be nice to know what it cost the Federal Government to run the control tower at the Williamsport airport per month.

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Ritty77

Mar-05-13 5:52 AM

"A 2011 GAO report gave a sampling of the vastness of what could be cut, consolidated, and rationalized in Washington: 44 overlapping job-training programs, 18 for nutrition assistance, 82 on teacher quality, 56 dealing with financial literacy, more than 20 for homelessness, etc. Total annual cost: $100 billion to $200 billion, about two to five times the entire domestic sequester.

"Are these on the chopping block? No sir. It’s firemen first. That’s the phrase coined in 1976 by legendary Washington Monthly editor Charlie Peters to describe the way government functionaries beat back budget cuts. Dare suggest a nick in the city budget and the mayor immediately shuts down the firehouse. The DMV back office stacked with nepotistic incompetents remains intact. Shrink it and no one would notice. Sell the firetruck — the people scream and the city council falls silent about any future cuts."—Dr. Charles Krauthammer

So true.

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rick424

Mar-05-13 6:57 AM

Boomtown. Good to see Act 13 monies put to good use. We wanted cutting so here we go. maybe it really wasn't scare tactics. A little thing here a little thing there it all adds up.

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MrShaman

Mar-05-13 8:05 AM

"Post script: And that's why building a new terminal is such a waste of taxpayer money...." - Francine

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....And, why we should rename the present-one, to reflect it's vintage.

Unfortunately, "Hooterville Airport" has already been registered.

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DavyJones

Mar-05-13 8:59 AM

And yet federal tax revenues are poised to hit 2.7 TRILLION dollars this year, an all time high. Makes you wonder, at least it does me.

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curtis2

Mar-05-13 9:51 AM

So we have an admittedly unnecessary tower for an unnecessary airport (2 flights a day!)...why did it take sequestration to close the thing down?

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jeff33

Mar-05-13 10:05 AM

When I went out for coffee this morning I heard a minority say, I hope I don't lose my Obama Phone.

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eric88

Mar-05-13 10:22 AM

Jeff33--When I went out for coffee this morningI hearda minoritysay,I hope I don't lose my ObamaPhone.

That would never happen. The party of parasites -or DNC will always take care of their voting block. God forbid if a welfare trash democrat ever felt any economic pain. There value to society is appreciated once a year every November voting themselves money out of the pockets of the responsible.

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eric88

Mar-05-13 10:42 AM

Maybe with the tower closed that could make room for the unnecessary helicopter the "Tax and spend rep" wants back in the area so desperately.

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rick424

Mar-05-13 11:57 AM

"I heard a minority say, I hope I don't lose my Obama Phone."

Just what the h**l does that mean? You guys on the right are something else for sure.

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oldbilltown

Mar-05-13 12:11 PM

FYI Government support for phones for the poor goes back many years, and the government subsidized cell phones for the poor started the year before Obama was elected.

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spike2

Mar-05-13 12:14 PM

jeff - that comment is pathetically ignorant.

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CaveFelem

Mar-05-13 12:14 PM

Thank goodness this didn't stop the TSA's new uniform purchase. $50 Million for new uniforms for the Thousands Standing Around. Nice.

See: Contract Award # HSTS05-13-D-OSO002.

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654321

Mar-05-13 12:33 PM

Spot on eric88!!!

Jeff33--When I went out for coffee this morningI hearda minoritysay,I hope I don't lose my ObamaPhone.

That would never happen. The party of parasites -or DNC will always take care of their voting block. God forbid if a welfare trash democrat ever felt any economic pain. There value to society is appreciated once a year every November voting themselves money out of the pockets of the responsible.

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eric88

Mar-05-13 12:59 PM

Spike2---jeff - that comment is pathetically ignorant.

Not me! Got a good laugh out of it! Good one Jeff!!

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signsell

Mar-05-13 1:25 PM

Does this have an effect of the proposed new terminal? Since I live in a state that is also feeling the effects of the LACK of leadership by the Obama clan, one can only wonder since both states have a Republican governor IF there is some payback!

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nobud74

Mar-05-13 1:46 PM

ignore it spike. Racist and stupid input should not be given the time of day. I don't believe in the current form of govt phones, but the racist cr ap is unacceptable.

Anyhow, how did we get from a small airport closure to Obamaphones? Think about that one.

And I thought all the antigassers and anti growth and progress types would be all jumping for joy--anything to stifle growth and the gas industry.

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rick424

Mar-05-13 1:56 PM

Interesting comment nobud. If itis perceived that the gas industry needs an airport then let them pay for it. I have recently flown out of Williamsport twice in the last 4 years and frankly it cost more and would not care if it is here or not. If it were not for tax dollars the airport would not exist. Which surprises me the right is not jumping for joy on this one.

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BornHere

Mar-05-13 2:02 PM

The Lifeline Assistance Program started in the 80's under Ronald Reagan, then in 1996 Clinton signed the Act into law either for a cell phone or land line for low-income families, and the program continued under Bush.

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RogerMurdock

Mar-05-13 2:07 PM

Francine, Where does it say in the article or FAA regs that there can be no commercial flights without a manned tower? My understanding of the system is that the carrier will be under New York Center control until they enter KIPT airspace where they declare their intentions on Unicom, fit themselves into traffic and land. Then vice verse when then leave. I don't think there's really any big deal. There are plenty of non-controlled airports around that accept commercial traffic.

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djwheil

Mar-05-13 2:58 PM

that is such a crock of bs. There is actually no cuts, its only the amount of increase over last year will be lower.

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outten

Mar-05-13 3:01 PM

As a controller at IPT let me give everyone a little ATC 101. We have usually 4 arrivals and 4 departures /day from UsAir flights. This closing will have a negative effect on the safety in the airspace. New York Center is not required to provide any services to VFR aircraft.Even if they could ,they can't see below 3000' because of the terrain which renders them null and void to provide ATC services within the towers airspace. Our setup is unique because of the ridge just south.That funnels everyone around the north side and also when aircraft depart the airspace they want to leave that same way as the inbounds come in which is very dangerous because every a/c is in the same vicinity. The drop in safety WILL happen with no tower. Just 2 weeks ago I had to take action to keep a plane from turning into the ridge because of low visibility. Those who think ZNY, New York Center will just take over and everything will be fine are just ignorant and plain wrong.

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outten

Mar-05-13 3:20 PM

In 1959 a commuter aircraft crashed into the mountain ridge about 1-2 miles southeast of the airport. Soon after, the tower was constructed and been operational ever sense for over 50 years. The tower is needed here and many other facilities but the government would rather punish us, the middle class, for their failure to handle money and eliminate waste. Instead they sign the sequester into law when both sides said it was a dumb and stupid way to go about it and had no intentions of letting it pass. Yet here we are losing our jobs while Congress takes their 3 day weekends and works 126 days for the whole year.My profession is ATC. I have done it my whole life over 24 years.Thanks to these corrupt politicians in DC, my profession is virtually gone. Very few towers will remain open after the sequester. The government screws up and the working middle class pays for it. 3 of us at this tower are also veterans of the military. The government should be ashamed. I am ashamed of my govt.

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RogerMurdock

Mar-05-13 3:50 PM

outten, by the same token I've been in aircraft where the controller cleared us to land on 12 about 30 seconds after he had cleared another plane to land on 30. We declined his offer of a head-on. Another time the controller told us to turn onto 27 as a commuter was landing on 9, again we declined his offer. There were other instances where more than one aircraft was cleared for the same runway at the same time. Us and somebody else. Sorry, but I never felt any safer because there was someone in the control tower telling us what he thought we should do. As for the mountain, aircraft have been flying into it for as long as I can remember, with or without someone sitting in the control tower.

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RogerMurdock

Mar-05-13 3:50 PM

outten, by the same token I've been in aircraft where the controller cleared us to land on 12 about 30 seconds after he had cleared another plane to land on 30. We declined his offer of a head-on. Another time the controller told us to turn onto 27 as a commuter was landing on 9, again we declined his offer. There were other instances where more than one aircraft was cleared for the same runway at the same time. Us and somebody else. Sorry, but I never felt any safer because there was someone in the control tower telling us what he thought we should do. As for the mountain, aircraft have been flying into it for as long as I can remember, with or without someone sitting in the control tower.

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