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Angered over headlineMarch 6, 2013I was extremely angered and saddened when I read a recent headline in the Sun-Gazette that graphically described a woman's experience with domestic violence, and went on to print the names of both...... Showing 24 of 24 comments
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wwhickok
I'll be 32 years old later this year and frankly, I've probably been through a heck of a lot more than a lot of people my age and even people twice my age (not comparing myself to military/police, etc).
I've seen a lot in my life, a lot of stuff I wish I could unsee. That's not how it works, but when I comment on articles like these, I speak from my heart and from my personal experience. I don't come on here making empty statements based on the opinion of someone who truly doesn't know what its like to experience what they're sharing an opinion on. I'm not trying to disrespect anyone's opinion either. I'm just saying my opinions on this matter are based on personal facts.
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wwhickok
If not, there's nothing more you can say that'll add to this conversation, but it's too easy for you to make empty statements.
If not, than your whole "I'm guessing you're too-young to understand that's what PERPETUATES domestic-abuse" is ironic because really, it's YOU that doesn't understand what perpetuates domestic-abuse.
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wwhickok
I speak for my mother and probably millions of Women, and btw, yes I'm a guy of course; It's easy to say 'it's her fault, she should leave', etc' when you're not going through it or if you've never been through it. It's easy to say that women shouldn't care whether this is 'public conversation' if you haven't experienced the effects of it. It's easy to judge a book by its cover when you haven't even read the reviews. But when you have been through it, you know how emotionally crumbling this is for a woman, a child, or whomever the 'victim' is. They just want to forget it ever happened and lock it away in their mind. The scumbags who abuse should absolutely be publicized. They deserve every bad piece of publicity that comes there way.
You are right about one thing Sham. It would be too late for a woman who doesn't speak up and ends up dead. But since I just b***hed at you for it, let me ask, have you ever SEEN abuse, been right there when it was happening?
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wwhickok
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My mother and my sisters dad were fighting, violently. he picked up my sister (a year and a half younger than me) and threw her across the room, literally, luckily she landed on the couch. I stood in front of him and threatened him (at 5/6 years old) he broke out a window with his hands. Moments later, the police can crashing threw my door. This isn't the only time this happened, same person, until finally my mom smartened up and we ended up in the Liberty House when i was about 7. So do me a favor Sham, the next time you open your big mouth and tell someone 'they're too young to understand' Maybe you should ask them if they're speaking from experience or not first you *****ng jack**s
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wwhickok
I'm guessing you're too-young to understand that's what PERPETUATES domestic-abuse...the abused preferring NOT to be the source o' 'public conversation'.
It'd be a "little" too late (for her), if she'd end-up dead, the next time.
Sham...I'm respectfully telling you, this is one time.. you REALLY need to stfu. You have no idea what you're talking about. Why? Because since I was 5, I grew up in a home where my mother was physically abused. It got bad, it got violent. I can't even count on both of my hands how many times the police were at my house and most of the time, they wouldn't do anything, neither would she because she was too scared. I can't tell you how many times, as a small boy, I would stand in front of my mother and pray that he'd hit me instead of her. The most vivid of memories was when I was maybe 5 or 6 years old
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CMReeder
I was wondering how long it would take before the need to arm oneself came into the discussion. Predictable!
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JohnZook
Reeder- I didn't say the victim's name should be published, just the perps, you know, "for the children". And don't forget about the perps feelings- that's what it all about. Like the rape victim in Colorado who wanted to carry a gun on her college campus, but was told that the faculty and students would feel "uncomfortable" if she had a gun. Oh their poor feelings. Maybe if she was in a safe zone and had a rape whistle- stops a rapist every time!!
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CMReeder
I suggest Mr. Zook that you go back and read the letter. No one is saying that the woman's name be printed. No liberals do not go around saying the woman asked for it but recent ramblings from conservative/republican spheres do however.
Accused individuals are printed in stories even suspects names are printed. Victim's names have been printed especially those that die. When a crime goes to trial names of vitim(s) and criminal(s) will be matter of public record and reported.
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Francine
If the accused was indeed convicted, and I didn't read the article, then I'm wrong and his name should have been printed.
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Francine
One is abused, and the other is accused, and neither name should have been printed. Period.
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JohnZook
Printing the name of the perp should be required to protect the general public. Of course, the libs would rather sit and wring their hands and ask where society went wrong causing this poor man to want to do this. The victim was probably edging him on, of course, so it was probably her own fault. Just trying to think like a liberal, but I just can't handle all the guilt.
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CMReeder
Headlines are nothing more than a 'hook' to get you to read the column, story or incident.
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CMReeder
"I'm just not seeing the good news part of a story of a guy beating up a woman."
The woman survived and her testimony landed the man a prison sentence. From tragedy came healing, survival, hope, awareness.
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MrShaman
"That newspaper has ruined more peoples lives!"
First of all, the victims name, shouldn't have been published imo (unless it was okay'd by the victim) because these types of situations can be very embarrassing for such victims and quite frankly, something they would rather not make 'public conversation'." - wwhickok
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I'm guessing you're too-young to understand that's what PERPETUATES domestic-abuse...the abused preferring NOT to be the source o' 'public conversation'.
It'd be a "little" too late (for her), if she'd end-up dead, the next time.
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MrShaman
"Good News!
Why don't try saying good things about those you don't like first. Why don't you try finding the good in others first. Why don't you report the good instead the lamenting what you see as bad." - CMReeder
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That'd be "somewhat" difficult, when reporting on such people as ReRon Reagan's ol' pal; Gen. Ríos Montt.
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See:
Guatemalan Genocide on Trial
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wwhickok
"That newspaper has ruined more peoples lives!" First of all, the victims name, shouldn't have been published imo (unless it was okay'd by the victim) because these types of situations can be very embarrassing for such victims and quite frankly, something they would rather not make 'public conversation'. As far as the abuser, if you're suggesting his life was ruined because he's a scumbag, that's not SG's fault, that's his fault.
Enigma and others are right, we could all use some good news and there is none within this article. All we hear about in Williamsport anymore is murders, fires, abuse, drugs, etc.
Recently, there was an accident and I'm not saying it's bad that SG reported it, it's not, but in this accident both parents of 3 children died; that is terrible news, very tragic. It's also the type of news we've come to know as normal. Again not saying this news shouldn't be reported, but at the same time, we need a better, greater focus on positive news.
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MrShaman
"Sensationalism is what sells in papers and on television. More murders, more stealing, more violence, more misfortune, more, more, more. How depressing!" - ToTEXASfromPA
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How PROFITABLE!!!!!
What...you see some kind o' CONFLICT, between "our" Judeo-Christian Values...and, Capitali$m??!!!
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philunderwood
Actually I believe the SG does a good job of reporting news and offering many articles of interest that are uplifting. I moved here during the early sixties and have always considered the SG as the best small town paper I’ve seen.
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jeff33
That newspaper has ruined more peoples lives! "SCUM GAZETTE"
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enigma
I agree Chuck. I'm just not seeing the good news part of a story of a guy beating up a woman. If you can find good news in that, please share. We could all use some good news.
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CMReeder
Good News!
Why don't try saying good things about those you don't like first. Why don't you try finding the good in others first. Why don't you report the good instead the lamenting what you see as bad.
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enigma
As the editor of the school paper you should know that the news is, who, what, when, where and how. Notice the who part in there. You should also know to proofread your letter before sending it. If you had done that, you might have caught the bit where be should be.
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wwhickok
Honestly, I can understand the frustration over 'outing' the victim, but when it comes to the abuser, that SHOULD be printed in the newspaper. That way their true 'identity' is out there and it doesn't happen to someone else, hopefully.
Having said that, I agree Texas. We need more GOOD news. There are a lot of good people in this city who do good things. We need more focus on that. We need more enouragement for community volunteer work, youth programs, etc.
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ToTEXASfromPA
Sensationalism is what sells in papers and on television. More murders, more stealing, more violence, more misfortune, more, more, more. How depressing!
We need more stories on neighbors and individuals helping each other, youth helping elderly, elderly mentoring youth, volunteers pitching in, and acts of random kindness.
As a society, we need to be careful of what we put in our minds because it can impact our actions.
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