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Hammers vs. guns

March 8, 2013

If this were a Seinfeld routine, it would begin, “What’s up with all the hammer stuff?” But, unfortunately, this isn’t about stand-up comedy or a beloved TV series about “nothing....

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Tgrammiex4

Mar-08-13 3:27 AM

When you register to vote and you check the Democrat box do they require that you turn in your sense of humor? Geeze, the hammer thing was a comparative joke. Another one in need of stick removal.

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mikekerstetter

Mar-08-13 3:43 AM

Not really a joke, Grammie. Statistically hammers are used to commit murders a lot more than the so-called assault weapons.

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Tedeaux

Mar-08-13 4:27 AM

I'm also getting tired of reading letters to the editor by people complaining about hammers being the subject of letters to the editor! There is something a little goofy about a person that would write a letter to the editor demanding that something has to be done about all firearms, a constitutionally guaranteed right, while prefacing the letter by complaining about hammers as the subject of previous letters!

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eriklatranyi

Mar-08-13 4:31 AM

As soon as I read the agreement with all sorts of regulations, I knew the author was a weak-minded fool who actually thinks he is safer because we have outlawed drugs, leading to a war on drugs, and billions wasted to 'protect' us.

Only the truly stupid think banning common objects has any effect on the criminal class.

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CHayes

Mar-08-13 5:51 AM

"Statistically hammers are used to commit murders a lot more than the so-called assault weapons."

That is in fact a lie.

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CHayes

Mar-08-13 5:54 AM

"we have the second amendment right to keep and bear guns for our protection"

Yes! Guns in your home "protect" you and your family. News story from 5 days ago:

"The 3-year-old son of a Jackson County Sheriff's Deputy accidentally shot and killed himself Saturday night.

According to Jackson County Sheriff Steve Rand, it happened around 5pm at the deputy's home on the 7000 block of Jackson Rd. in Liberty Twp.

According to the sheriff, the deputy was on his way to work when it happened. Rand believes the child was at home with his mother at the time.

The mother of the young boy called his father immediately. He was rushed to Allegiance Hospital, where police say he died."

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CHayes

Mar-08-13 6:05 AM

I'm sure some people here can produce 4 or 5 stories of people defending themselves from marauding bands of murders with their guns, from the last week, right?

I just listened to a 2 hour story story on a radio show I listen to, about a high school in Chicago (Harper high) where TWENTY NINE students were shot last year in separate incidents. Three current students died, and 5 recent students died. I'm pretty sure all the guns used were in someone's home for "self defense" at some point.

29 children shot. 8 children dead. In a single year. At ONE school. Where I come from, that's called "a problem".

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idiottwo

Mar-08-13 6:06 AM

like you say, another fixated on hammers and guns. Yes, lets do something more about guns and ignore the mental illness and access aspects.

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CHayes

Mar-08-13 6:07 AM

PS. I checked and there were zero children killed, or even attacked with hammers.

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wwhickok

Mar-08-13 6:08 AM

This letter is completely redonkulous. What's that mean? It's the word you use when ridiculous just doesn't cut it.

Seriously, 'make hammers safer'...the only way you do that is by making stores take them off the shelves.. it's a FRIGGIN' HAMMER.

It's also a diversionary from the real issue, Mental Health, and how it causes sick and bad people to commit heinous crimes.

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CHayes

Mar-08-13 6:12 AM

"Yes, lets do something more about guns and ignore the mental illness"

Mental illness? You mean like people saying the President orchestrated the Benghazi attack? Or did you mean people saying the govt was behind the Newtown school massacre? Or were you talking about the Senate Minority Leader sending a letter to the Dept of Defense asking why they were planning on giving Guantanamo detainees military veterans benefits?

Or maybe you were thinking more about people who think having a gun in their home "protects" their family?

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CHayes

Mar-08-13 6:14 AM

"It's also a diversionary from the real issue, Mental Health, and how it causes sick and bad people to commit heinous crimes."

Refresh my memory. What were some of the proposals here to keep guns away from the "mentally ill"? How exactly do you do that again?

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Tedeaux

Mar-08-13 6:19 AM

Ok Hayes, the problem is already inside your answer. The high school you mention is in Chicago, a place that already has some of the most restrictive gun laws in America. So if more gun control laws are what we need, why isn't already working in Chicago?

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CHayes

Mar-08-13 6:29 AM

"The high school you mention is in Chicago, a place that already has some of the most restrictive gun laws in America. So if more gun control laws are what we need, why isn't already working in Chicago?"

We need FEDERAL gun legislation. Part of the story focused on where the guns came from. It said a small band of college students was recently busted for driving to Indiana gun shows, buying "a large bag" of guns at the shows, and selling them in Chicago. Gun control isn't really very effective, when you can jump in your car, drive 45 minutes across the state border, buy a bunch of guns easily, and bring them back home to sell.

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CHayes

Mar-08-13 6:31 AM

And STILL nobody can define "mentally ill" or produce even a SINGLE idea how to prevent these people from getting an item that has become ubiquitous?

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idiottwo

Mar-08-13 7:14 AM

How many were killed by vehicles? We should do something about that too. Busses? Those too.

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idiottwo

Mar-08-13 7:21 AM

can't define mentally ill? But you can an asualt weapon. Truth - you seem as if you don't want to define mentally ill and you are overly interested in your perseption being impossed on others about your view of gun control.

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rick424

Mar-08-13 8:01 AM

How come you conservatives aren't complaining out the ying yang about your tax dollars going toward a compressed NG facility in Williamsport. I bet if the headline read "6.6 million of your tax dollars are going to help the poor" There would be 50 responses already. Instead you are beating to death the gun and hammer and cars, buses, trucks, drills and mentally ill that you cut programs for to help issues. How strange the right is.

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wwhickok

Mar-08-13 8:02 AM

"Refresh my memory. What were some of the proposals here to keep guns away from the "mentally ill"? How exactly do you do that again?"

There is no 'foolproof' plan, but some of the first steps are reestablishing mental health medical facilities and improving the state reporting of those diagnosed with mental illness; additionally improving the diagnosis through standard medical examinations. Those are very small steps in the right direction. I'm not a doctor, psychiatrist, or gun salesmen, so I don't have all the answers.

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wwhickok

Mar-08-13 8:04 AM

"I checked and there were zero children killed, or even attacked with hammers."

Glad you're finally being honest about the fact this isn't about what happens as a whole with firearms, but what happens in schools and ONLY schools, related to children. It's not that I don't care, but the picture, while it includes them involves a lot of others.

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wwhickok

Mar-08-13 8:07 AM

This IS a fact; if you want to dispute it, I'd suggest you look it up first: People like Hayes who have said things of this nature before and are kind of hinting to it in this thread, are basically saying Assault Rifles are the problem.

FACT is that more violent crimes/murderse are committed with HANDGUNS than any other type of firearm. I believe the % is 72% of violent crimes/murders are committed with a handgun. So if we're REALLY going to sit here and dispute the legality of guns, I think you're targetting the wrong category type..but it's not handguns you're after, now is it?

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wwhickok

Mar-08-13 8:09 AM

Define Mentally Ill? Someone who is psychologically unstable? That's a start.

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rick424

Mar-08-13 8:12 AM

How many mass shootings are done with hand guns by a single person?

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gavinf56

Mar-08-13 8:34 AM

"How many mass shootings are done with hand guns by a single person?" - rick424

Jared Lauphner (sp?) who was also incidentally mentally unstable.

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CHayes

Mar-08-13 8:39 AM

" Define Mentally Ill?"

Why would I define mentally ill? Aren't you the one calling for keeping guns away from mentally ill people? I suppose that males it YOUR job to "define mentally ill". Quick heads up, if you can't define what constitutes.a mentally ill person, how are you going to keep them from buying guns?

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