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March 9, 2013

Thank you Mr. Knapp for confirming a long held belief. Conservatives/Republicans are more interested in inventing and playing games than in working for the people. Charles M....

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WKnapp

Mar-09-13 11:39 PM

Unclear?? Well, maybe...if English is your second language or you have severe comprehension problems.

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WKnapp

Mar-09-13 11:37 PM

Inaccurate?? NOPE!!

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WKnapp

Mar-09-13 11:35 PM

Bufftrev1

Mar-09-13 6:18 PM

Wmknapp.. your comment is both inaccurate and unclear. Democrats had what is now the required 60 votes in the Senate for almost exactly 6 months, not two years. Not really sure what you're trying to ask with the remainder..

I don't understand your addressing me as thugh my name was William, as it is Wayne, and my screen name is WKnapp. But I digress. I was referring to just simple majority, not filibuster proof. The Senate is STILL in Dumascrap hands. Republicans regained control of the House after two years of Obama-lama-ding-dong, but for those first two years, BOTH HOUSES were controlled by Dumascrap majorities. The question, sir, was how are the Republicans responsible for Obama not being able to get things done with his own comrades in control of Congress. (I forgot I was addressing a dyed-in-the-wool partisan with comprehension problems. Sorry.)

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gavinf56

Mar-09-13 10:29 PM

Good boxing on HBO right now.

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Bufftrev1

Mar-09-13 10:10 PM

Try googling filibuster by year, images, in order to see the 'dramatic' usage of the procedure.. it's pretty apparent. Always liked Harry Reid, despite his cowboy poetry appropriations.. he's a former boxer!

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gavinf56

Mar-09-13 8:15 PM

As far as your "yes" votes question, yes, I think it is now hypocritical to act in that manner but I will add, being fiscally conservative I was also outspoken against Bush's spending right here on these very boards.

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gavinf56

Mar-09-13 8:12 PM

So Senate Majority Leader doesn't allow Republican sponsored legislation to come to the floor for a vote but instead opts to only allow Democrat sponsored legislation to be voted on, and you wonder why the Republicans threaten to filibuster everything? What else would you have the Republicans do? ...and of course let's just ignore the dramatic increase in the number of filibusters from 2001-2006 when the Dems were in the minority and GW was President.

“The filibuster is a critical tool in keeping the majority in check.” - Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, 2005

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Bufftrev1

Mar-09-13 8:00 PM

Ask a republican why they've filibustered everything in sight, gavin, I haven't the answer.. and, like wmknapp, you've dodged the question about why after eight consecutive yes votes with no preconditions they suddenly felt the need to be 'fiscally conservative'.. you needn't answer, you and I both know the reason. Have a nice night, mi amigo..

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msgjsheets

Mar-09-13 7:49 PM

Since Chuck and his cohorts never actually read any differing opinions on here I'll just say what every other Conservative/Libertarian wants to tell Chuck: BITE ME CHUCK!!!

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gavinf56

Mar-09-13 7:48 PM

Well under that line of reasoning, the Republicans have never controlled either the Senate or the House for the last 50+ years, so how could they have been solely responsible for everything that happened from 2001-2009?

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Bufftrev1

Mar-09-13 7:39 PM

Hey gavin.. and what, praytell, are they supposed to do with control, as the r's can, and did, filibuster everything in sight? Despite that, wmknapps response did nothing but dodge the question.. which is also 100% accurate, am I right, gavin?

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gavinf56

Mar-09-13 7:11 PM

Hey BuffTrev1, you better check Waynes wording again;

"Ummmm... for the first TWO YEARS of Obama-lama-ding-dong's presidency, the Dumbocraps had control of BOTH HOUSES OF CONGRESS!"

Control does not mean filibuster proof majorities. Currently the Republicans control the House and Democrats control the Senate making Waynes comment 100% accurate.

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Bufftrev1

Mar-09-13 6:18 PM

Wmknapp.. your comment is both inaccurate and unclear. Democrats had what is now the required 60 votes in the Senate for almost exactly 6 months, not two years. Not really sure what you're trying to ask with the remainder..

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WKnapp

Mar-09-13 6:07 PM

Bufftrev1

Mar-09-13 5:17 PM

...Want more examples? No problem, just noted this one elsewhere.. the r's increased the debt limit 8 times for gw.. with no preconditions. We hit those limits the first 7 times, fair to say they knew we'd hit the limit granted the 8th time.. yet, shockingly, the moment that happened, under a Democrat President, that magically became the moment to become a 'fiscal conservative'...

Ummmm... for the first TWO YEARS of Obama-lama-ding-dong's presidency, the Dumbocraps had control of BOTH HOUSES OF CONGRESS! How, pray tell, are the Republicans responsible for THAT???

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Bufftrev1

Mar-09-13 5:17 PM

Hi enigma.. with respect, the book I cited does exactly what I said, validate the notion that current republicans invent and play games. Want proof? Read Hubris or the one % doctrine to learn the extent the gw and co went to in order to make the case for war in iraq. Want more examples? No problem, just noted this one elsewhere.. the r's increased the debt limit 8 times for gw.. with no preconditions. We hit those limits the first 7 times, fair to say they knew we'd hit the limit granted the 8th time.. yet, shockingly, the moment that happened, under a Democratic President, that magically became the moment to become a 'fiscal conservative', to demand cuts to only programs favored by Democrats.. Invented games? That was probably as polite a way as the decorum of this forum would allow.. have a nice night, enigma, nothin but love for ya..

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enigma

Mar-09-13 4:31 PM

Buff,"Simply googling the word filibuster will also further validate the content of Charles letter."

What content? Did you read the same letter the rest of us did? You cited two sources to validate a one sentence letter that didn't even mention anything in your two sources. It just spouted hatred for Republicans, with no facts. It would be the equivalent of someone saying, "Democrats are poo-poo heads." Would you consider that a good letter? Neither would I, and I would say so, or at the very least not call it a good letter.

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WKnapp

Mar-09-13 3:59 PM

How in the world did one slice of our population, the left, become so lacking in intelligence and any kind of sense at all? They're willing to fall on their swords in support of a stupid letter, poorly written, ill conceived and revenge motivated? Revenge for a tongue in cheek letter, authored by me, as a joke on a bet and dare? Where's your sense of honor? Where's your sense of humor? Each of you is willing to sacrifice your integrity for this? WHAT'S WROING WITH YOU PEOPLE?

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JerryfromRI

Mar-09-13 3:17 PM

I'll pass on the paintball but I am fond of chess.

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Tedeaux

Mar-09-13 2:45 PM

I would think a paint ball war between the liberals and the conservatives would cure more of what ails us than anything else. How about you bunch of lilly livered liberals, yawl ready to have your butts kicked on the paintball battlefield, prim and proper like?

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twinder

Mar-09-13 1:55 PM

Did someone mention Chess? I haven't played a good game of "full-contact" Chess in a while. Sign me up!

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Bufftrev1

Mar-09-13 1:28 PM

Hi enigma.. nonsense.. but thanks for the laugh. Charles letter is a good letter in my opinion.. and, as is usually the case, I have and will offer the supporting reasons. The book its worse than it looks examines and document recent republican reticence at supporting congressional Democrats or the president. It was written, in part, by a respected conservative. Simply googling the word filibuster will also further validate the content of Charles letter. My opinion, as usual, is also validated by these sources. Simple as that.. this is another case of my seeing things as they are, it seems to be yourself that is seeing things as you wish they to be. But, please feel free to offer some evidence if you choose to post a rebuttal. My guess is that you will not..

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JohnZook

Mar-09-13 1:19 PM

Oh, like Harry Reid and that fountain of wisdom Nancy Pelosi. And don't forget Mr. Straight Shooter A. G. Holder and his fast facts on Benghazi and Fast-and-Furious. No games here, move along, move along...... Liberals.......

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Bufftrev1

Mar-09-13 1:06 PM

Hi enigma.. nonsense.. but thanks for the laugh. Charles letter is a good letter in my opinion.. and, as is usually the case, I have and will offer the supporting reasons. The book its worse than it looks examines and document recent republican reticence at supporting congressional Democrats or the president. It was written, in part, by a respected conservative. Simply googling the word filibuster will also further validate the content of Charles letter. My opinion, as usual, is also validated by these sources. Simple as that.. this is another case of my seeing things as they are, it seems to be yourself that is seeing things as you wish they to be. But, please feel free to offer some evidence if you choose to post a rebuttal. My guess is that you will not..

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Bufftrev1

Mar-09-13 1:00 PM

Hi enigma.. nonsense.. but thanks for the laugh. Charles letter is a good letter in my opinion.. and, as is usually the case, I have and will offer the supporting reasons. The book its worse than it looks examines and document recent republican reticence at supporting congressional Democrats or the president. It was written, in part, by a respected conservative. Simply googling

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enigma

Mar-09-13 12:40 PM

Buff, Don't insult me by saying you're bing like me. When I see a poorly written or poorly thought out letter written by a conserviative I call it that. This is an attrocious hate filled rant with not one bit of redeeming value and you call it a good letter, just because you hold the same anger and hate that Chuck does. We are nothing alike. I see things for what they are and you see them for what you want them to be.

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