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Why we need weapons

March 12, 2013

Who were the ones that both Hitler and Stalin along with many other despots in history targeted for elimination? Seems they were political rivals, doctors, teachers, anyone they perceived a threat....

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USABorn

Mar-13-13 5:34 PM

Picked this up in the DAILY MAIL UK newspaper.

"Gabby Giffords' husband branded a 'hypocrite' after buying an assault rifle the day before they gave a talk on gun control at the supermarket where she was shot"

"Kelly said on Facebook that the background check from the purchases took only a matter of minutes to complete and that it's scary to think people can buy similar guns without background checks at gun shows or on the Internet."

What was his point? A law abiding astronaut passed a background check? No kidding. If he wanted to make a point...he should be asking Eric Holder why he gave untraceable guns to the Mexican Cartel that resulted in hundreds of dead Mexican citizens and an American border agent.

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USABorn

Mar-13-13 5:15 PM

CMReeder-12:24 PM

Yours is the lies enigma. The early Nazis did not have weapons nor did any other German citizen....

REGISTRATION: THE NAZI PARADIGM Stephen P. Halbrook, Ph.D., J.D.

You just may find out you are wrong Reeder!

Not only did Germans lose their weapons, but he disarmed Europe also.

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CMReeder

Mar-13-13 10:01 AM

Germans did not let the people of the countries they invaded have weapons and took control of have weapons and they did not allow anyone who was Jewish to have firearms at all. In Germany Hitler armed German citizens, a law previous to him being named chancellor was enacted that limited gun ownership after WWI. When the US came into Germany at the end of the war the GIs were amazed at the number of guns found in private homes, many were taken as souvenirs. It should be noted that Eisenhower unarmed the German citizens after WWII.

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CMReeder

Mar-13-13 9:52 AM

"Gun registration and licensing (for long guns as well as for handguns) were legislated by an anti-National Socialist government in Germany in 1928, five years before the National Socialists gained power. Hitler became Chancellor on January 30, 1933. Five years later his government got around to rewriting the gun law enacted a decade earlier by his predecessors, substantially amel ior a ting it in the process (for example, long guns were exempted from the requirement for a purchase permit; the legal age for gun ownership was lowered from 20 to 18 years; the period of validity of a permit to carry weapons was extended from one to three years; and provisions restricting the amount of ammunition or the number of firearms an individual could own were dropped). Hitler's government may be criticized for leaving certain restrictions and licensing requirements in the law, but the National Socialists had no intention of preventing law-abiding Germans from keeping or bearing arms."

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wwhickok

Mar-13-13 7:47 AM

When I was in High School one of my favorite topics to do book reports for in History was "The Holocaust"; because there's so much you can learn from it. So much information about it and it's an important part of World History (not really in a good way). I can say with a reasonable amount of certainty that Enigma's comment about the registered guns list and confiscation of guns by Hitler is 100% accurate. It was part of the process of Hitler truly taking contorl in Germany and for that matter, in Europe.

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enigma

Mar-12-13 5:17 PM

CHayes,"It's funny how someone proposes a piece of gun control legislation, and all the right wing Timothy McVeigh wannabes suddenly come slithering out from under their rocks."

McVeigh did not use a gun! Do you have any other idiotic insults you want to through out at people whose only crime is not agreeing with you.

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SteelerFan

Mar-12-13 4:24 PM

More bombastic BS from Hazy.

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CHayes

Mar-12-13 3:36 PM

It's funny how someone proposes a piece of gun control legislation, and all the right wing Timothy McVeigh wannabes suddenly come slithering out from under their rocks.

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CHayes

Mar-12-13 3:24 PM

Or are you saying that you'd like to make it easier for white people to buy guns, and harder for black people to buy guns?

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CHayes

Mar-12-13 3:23 PM

"Whatever requirements you place on voting should be the same requirements for owning a firearm."

Problem is erik, I've never seen, or heard of anyone walking into a movie theater, or other crowded space, and massacring dozens of people with a voter registration card. Even if they showed up heavy, and were even sporting an "I Just Voted" sticker on their jacket, the possibility for mayhem isn't really comparable.

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eriklatranyi

Mar-12-13 2:50 PM

CHayes:

Here's a deal for you:

Whatever requirements you place on voting should be the same requirements for owning a firearm.

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CHayes

Mar-12-13 2:03 PM

I think it's interesting that so called "liberals" get fired up about preserving citizen's access to the ballot box, and so called "conservatives" get fired up about preserving citizen's access to military style assault weapons.

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CHayes

Mar-12-13 2:00 PM

"DavidBross, It's a good thing that our founders didn't think like you or we would still be a British colony."

Ah, the Revolutionary War. Isn't that the war that you tried to say started because the British tried to institute gun control?

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CHayes

Mar-12-13 1:58 PM

Wait a second. Someone is trying to take your handguns, and hunting rifles, and shotguns? Really? Who?

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CMReeder

Mar-12-13 12:29 PM

Actually enigma our Founding Fathers did think like David. They debated, they argued, they compromise, they asked questions, they fought. You on the other hand are just a reactionary.

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CMReeder

Mar-12-13 12:24 PM

Yours is the lies enigma. The early Nazis did not have weapons nor did any other German citizen it was not until Hitler came in power did the German citizens get to own guns again. He excluded the Jewish community not only from owning but manufacturing. He did not use gun registration to find his enemies and he did not go around disarming people he rounded people up, mostly Jewish and gypsies, and ended their lives eventually using the final solution and concentration camps.

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Bufftrev1

Mar-12-13 12:15 PM

Hi david.. it seems to me that you continue to be a voice reason and sanity, I encourage you to endeavour to persevere.. I particularly like and appreciate the collegial tone of your posts. Class... ditto.

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enigma

Mar-12-13 11:26 AM

DavidBross, It's a good thing that our founders didn't think like you or we would still be a British colony. These things seem to work themselves out as they do in all such conflicts. What I would like better is for it never to come to that, and we could do it if everyone would stand up to the government when they do things wrong and not just when the other party is in control. That's how we've gotten here. It's a game for those in power. If you can keep the people about evenly split between parties, you can do anything to them. If we would stand up for what's right rather than what my party does, we could save our country and our freedom. Divided we fall, and they have divided us quite effectively. There are some things we will not agree on, but can we at least agree that trampling rights is a bad thing? We have a government that thinks it's OK to kill Americans on US soil without due process. Only a small number in our government stood against that. How scary is that?

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enigma

Mar-12-13 11:13 AM

Chuck,"Hitler did not take the people's guns from them for they where already taken before he came into power he gave the guns back to them except for those in the Jewish community."

That's just a lie. The guns were already registered and Hitler used those lists to disarm people he didn't want having guns. First it was the Jews, then it was whatever groups or even individuals he decided were threats.

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DavidBross

Mar-12-13 11:06 AM

It would be interesting to see how a meeting among those who subscribe to the theme of this letter would turn out. I wonder how much they would be able to agree on? Especially, when it comes to details like, when is it time to use our weapons, what will be the command and control arrangement for the armed citizens?

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CMReeder

Mar-12-13 9:34 AM

If this, if that, maybe this will happen maybe it won't. Lot of ifs no certainty. You know that Hitler and Stalin feared the teachers, intellectuals because they could see the truth of their oppression and erode their power wielded by fear.

Hitler did not take the people's guns from them for they where already taken before he came into power he gave the guns back to them except for those in the Jewish community.

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Class144

Mar-12-13 8:45 AM

"Liberals cannot see our gov't turning against the people because one of theirs is in power."

Gee, generations of blindness? Why? Well, since 1988, the Republicans have won the popular vote exactly once. And electoral demographics are shifting even more towards progressives. And what does that mean? It means people like you are left to rely on conspiracy theories that tell us Hitler acolytes are hiding under the bed to 'get us.' It no longer works. Have fun, you are making us laugh.

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MrShaman

Mar-12-13 8:25 AM

Sham,"I give up....because you can't afford testosterone-therapy?????"

That is a very sexist statement. There are many women who want to maintain the right to bear arms. Do you think their 'manhood' is threatened. If I were to say that your fear of guns indicates an unusually high estrogen level, you would consider that to be too offensive to write here, but you feel justified in writing this garbage." - enigma

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No...you're free to make any assumptions, about me, you want...no matter how wrong you are. I don't "fear" guns...only those developmentally-arrested/paranoid clowns who are knocking-themselves-out, trying to be the next "John Wayne".

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MrShaman

Mar-12-13 8:18 AM

"Liberals cannot see our gov't turning against the people because one of theirs is in power.

They did not think this way when Bush was president." - eriklatranyi

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What we thought (when Lil' Dumbya was President), was that...those folks who made every effort to make him look like a successful-businessman, were the same people who'd benefited MOST, from his Presidency, but...despite what the Clerics tell everyone...EVERYTHING is temporary...even Lil' Dumbya's Presidency.

We had the maturity (after the Clinton Presidency) to recognize another Dem would have to clean-up after another Bush.

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enigma

Mar-12-13 7:38 AM

Sham,"I give up....because you can't afford testosterone-therapy?????"

That is a very sexist statement. There are many women who want to maintain the right to bear arms. Do you think their 'manhood' is threatened. If I were to say that your fear of guns indicates an unusually high estrogen level, you would consider that to be too offensive to write here, but you feel justified in writing this garbage. You can't make an intelligent argument, so you will make a childish and stupid remark. Straight out of "Liberal Debate Strategies: 101"

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