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Why we need weapons

March 12, 2013

Who were the ones that both Hitler and Stalin along with many other despots in history targeted for elimination? Seems they were political rivals, doctors, teachers, anyone they perceived a threat....

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streetmachine

Mar-12-13 1:37 AM

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. this means all of us must decide on matters not just a handful we all are part of this govermnet

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Tedeaux

Mar-12-13 1:50 AM

But banning assault rifles will save the children!

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MrShaman

Mar-12-13 5:24 AM

"Who were the ones that both Hitler and Stalin along with many other despots in history targeted for elimination? Seems they were political rivals, doctors, teachers, anyone they perceived a threat. Why do we need assault weapons?" - Max Casale

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I give up....because you can't afford testosterone-therapy?????

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eriklatranyi

Mar-12-13 5:57 AM

Liberals cannot see our gov't turning against the people because one of theirs is in power.

They did not think this way when Bush was president.

Hitler was legally elected. It can happen.

But that is not the point.

Our firearm rights are protected by the constitution. If the constitution does not matter, then we do not live by rule of law, but by rule of men and whatever those men want at that moment in time.

Right now, those men might agree with you. In the future, they might not agree with you.

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rick424

Mar-12-13 6:38 AM

Just curious,a question to throw out there. Would have a small band of weapon carrying citizens stop Hitler? Or would an army of hi-tech weapons stop him. I think the government run a mock argument is weak. Maybe peace of mind as a missile shoots down your chimney or a drone flies overhead. Will might feel comfortable knowing you had a weapon in your hand as you are blown to bits.

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Tedeaux

Mar-12-13 7:07 AM

The answers to your questions are in the headlines from places around the world like Syria and Egypt where even though their dictator rulers are well armed, the people are fighting to take control of their countries again. Are you too arrogant to see that we Americans could be in the same position with a couple of executive orders and a Supreme Court decision? Once our right to own these weapons are gone, the real rape of rights may begin!

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eriklatranyi

Mar-12-13 7:13 AM

rick424:

Hitler's army would be fighting in the streets and bogged down. It would have delayed or prevented the Axis alliance and the invasion of Europe.

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eriklatranyi

Mar-12-13 7:13 AM

rick424:

Hitler's army would be fighting in the streets and bogged down. It would have delayed or prevented the Axis alliance and the invasion of Europe.

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enigma

Mar-12-13 7:38 AM

Sham,"I give up....because you can't afford testosterone-therapy?????"

That is a very sexist statement. There are many women who want to maintain the right to bear arms. Do you think their 'manhood' is threatened. If I were to say that your fear of guns indicates an unusually high estrogen level, you would consider that to be too offensive to write here, but you feel justified in writing this garbage. You can't make an intelligent argument, so you will make a childish and stupid remark. Straight out of "Liberal Debate Strategies: 101"

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MrShaman

Mar-12-13 8:18 AM

"Liberals cannot see our gov't turning against the people because one of theirs is in power.

They did not think this way when Bush was president." - eriklatranyi

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What we thought (when Lil' Dumbya was President), was that...those folks who made every effort to make him look like a successful-businessman, were the same people who'd benefited MOST, from his Presidency, but...despite what the Clerics tell everyone...EVERYTHING is temporary...even Lil' Dumbya's Presidency.

We had the maturity (after the Clinton Presidency) to recognize another Dem would have to clean-up after another Bush.

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MrShaman

Mar-12-13 8:25 AM

Sham,"I give up....because you can't afford testosterone-therapy?????"

That is a very sexist statement. There are many women who want to maintain the right to bear arms. Do you think their 'manhood' is threatened. If I were to say that your fear of guns indicates an unusually high estrogen level, you would consider that to be too offensive to write here, but you feel justified in writing this garbage." - enigma

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No...you're free to make any assumptions, about me, you want...no matter how wrong you are. I don't "fear" guns...only those developmentally-arrested/paranoid clowns who are knocking-themselves-out, trying to be the next "John Wayne".

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Class144

Mar-12-13 8:45 AM

"Liberals cannot see our gov't turning against the people because one of theirs is in power."

Gee, generations of blindness? Why? Well, since 1988, the Republicans have won the popular vote exactly once. And electoral demographics are shifting even more towards progressives. And what does that mean? It means people like you are left to rely on conspiracy theories that tell us Hitler acolytes are hiding under the bed to 'get us.' It no longer works. Have fun, you are making us laugh.

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CMReeder

Mar-12-13 9:34 AM

If this, if that, maybe this will happen maybe it won't. Lot of ifs no certainty. You know that Hitler and Stalin feared the teachers, intellectuals because they could see the truth of their oppression and erode their power wielded by fear.

Hitler did not take the people's guns from them for they where already taken before he came into power he gave the guns back to them except for those in the Jewish community.

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DavidBross

Mar-12-13 11:06 AM

It would be interesting to see how a meeting among those who subscribe to the theme of this letter would turn out. I wonder how much they would be able to agree on? Especially, when it comes to details like, when is it time to use our weapons, what will be the command and control arrangement for the armed citizens?

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enigma

Mar-12-13 11:13 AM

Chuck,"Hitler did not take the people's guns from them for they where already taken before he came into power he gave the guns back to them except for those in the Jewish community."

That's just a lie. The guns were already registered and Hitler used those lists to disarm people he didn't want having guns. First it was the Jews, then it was whatever groups or even individuals he decided were threats.

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enigma

Mar-12-13 11:26 AM

DavidBross, It's a good thing that our founders didn't think like you or we would still be a British colony. These things seem to work themselves out as they do in all such conflicts. What I would like better is for it never to come to that, and we could do it if everyone would stand up to the government when they do things wrong and not just when the other party is in control. That's how we've gotten here. It's a game for those in power. If you can keep the people about evenly split between parties, you can do anything to them. If we would stand up for what's right rather than what my party does, we could save our country and our freedom. Divided we fall, and they have divided us quite effectively. There are some things we will not agree on, but can we at least agree that trampling rights is a bad thing? We have a government that thinks it's OK to kill Americans on US soil without due process. Only a small number in our government stood against that. How scary is that?

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Bufftrev1

Mar-12-13 12:15 PM

Hi david.. it seems to me that you continue to be a voice reason and sanity, I encourage you to endeavour to persevere.. I particularly like and appreciate the collegial tone of your posts. Class... ditto.

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CMReeder

Mar-12-13 12:24 PM

Yours is the lies enigma. The early Nazis did not have weapons nor did any other German citizen it was not until Hitler came in power did the German citizens get to own guns again. He excluded the Jewish community not only from owning but manufacturing. He did not use gun registration to find his enemies and he did not go around disarming people he rounded people up, mostly Jewish and gypsies, and ended their lives eventually using the final solution and concentration camps.

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CMReeder

Mar-12-13 12:29 PM

Actually enigma our Founding Fathers did think like David. They debated, they argued, they compromise, they asked questions, they fought. You on the other hand are just a reactionary.

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CHayes

Mar-12-13 1:58 PM

Wait a second. Someone is trying to take your handguns, and hunting rifles, and shotguns? Really? Who?

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CHayes

Mar-12-13 2:00 PM

"DavidBross, It's a good thing that our founders didn't think like you or we would still be a British colony."

Ah, the Revolutionary War. Isn't that the war that you tried to say started because the British tried to institute gun control?

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CHayes

Mar-12-13 2:03 PM

I think it's interesting that so called "liberals" get fired up about preserving citizen's access to the ballot box, and so called "conservatives" get fired up about preserving citizen's access to military style assault weapons.

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eriklatranyi

Mar-12-13 2:50 PM

CHayes:

Here's a deal for you:

Whatever requirements you place on voting should be the same requirements for owning a firearm.

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CHayes

Mar-12-13 3:23 PM

"Whatever requirements you place on voting should be the same requirements for owning a firearm."

Problem is erik, I've never seen, or heard of anyone walking into a movie theater, or other crowded space, and massacring dozens of people with a voter registration card. Even if they showed up heavy, and were even sporting an "I Just Voted" sticker on their jacket, the possibility for mayhem isn't really comparable.

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CHayes

Mar-12-13 3:24 PM

Or are you saying that you'd like to make it easier for white people to buy guns, and harder for black people to buy guns?

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