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N.R.A. vs. Joe Biden

March 15, 2013

A recent letter by Mr. Yoxtheimer once again illustrates the Alinskian method of demonizing those that have differing opinions from the left. The N.R.A....

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Ritty77

Mar-15-13 5:07 AM

Excellent letter, Mr. Weeks.

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MrShaman

Mar-15-13 5:19 AM

"The N.R.A. has been around for over a century with firearms education/safety/training for police, military and civilians during that time. They are merely the organization that stands up for the 2nd Amendment rights of all citizens."

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...And, become an extremely-convenient resource for Wayne LaPierre; the weapons-industry's most successful lobbyist. I guess you DO have to give him credit for ($o $ucce$$fully) $ub$idizing his mere pittance of a $1M NRA-salary, as $poke$man for an industry on it's "last legs".

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MBardo

Mar-15-13 5:29 AM

"an industry on it's "last legs"." - MrShaman

Delusional much?

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WKnapp

Mar-15-13 5:48 AM

... see what I mean? The left is always wrong or stupid, and typically both wrong AND stupid! Reference, the sham....

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CHayes

Mar-15-13 5:57 AM

"Just because you don't want or think you need to own a firearm at this time, doesn't mean you may not in the future. The N.R.A. will still be there to support your rights at that time"

Yep. If you're an al Qaeda operative, or even if you've threatened your Congressman's life...whatever reason you may be on the terrorist watch list, the NRA will work to secure your access to firearms. What's that you say? You just got out of prison after doing a ten year stretch for armed robbery and assault with a deadly weapon? The NRA will defend your access to firearms by working tirelessly to make sure there are always enough background check loopholes, that you can easily obtain a weapon almost anywhere.

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CHayes

Mar-15-13 6:04 AM

Sound familiar to anyone here?

"The former pastor of an Indiana megachurch who is awaiting sentencing in a sex crimes case told a 17-year-old girl that Jesus wanted her to have sexual relations with him.

Federal prosecutors on Wednesday released letters in which former First Baptist Church pastor Jack Schaap explained that the underage girl should have sex with him because it was part of God’s plan.

“In our ‘fantasy talk,’ you have affectionately spoken of being ‘my wife,’” Schaap wrote to the girl. “That is exactly what Christ desires for us. He wants to marry us + become eternal lovers!”

Last year, Schaap pleaded guilty to having the girl transported across state lines into Michigan so he could have sex with her. Prosecutors said that the former pastor had tricked church members into bringing the girl to his cabin in Cadillac, Michigan because she was “in an extremely vulnerable state” and needed to spend extended time alone with him."

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CarlHiller

Mar-15-13 6:05 AM

Since when, Shammy, is pay a factor in any organizations cause. Whether left, right or center many pay their directors, presidents over a million bucks. Get a life!

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wwhickok

Mar-15-13 6:05 AM

I think this is an excellent letter. My ONLY knock against the NRA truthfully, is that I believe they could do better under different Leadership. LaPierre has very personal agenda's and at times he makes that all too clear. His personal visions cloud the integrity of the NRA at times in my opinion. Under more integral leadership, I believe the NRA would be represented more honestly.

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CHayes

Mar-15-13 6:14 AM

Another "law abiding citizen":

"A man claiming to be a trained Marine sniper threatened to assassinate a California lawmaker if he supported an assault weapons ban, newly unsealed court documents obtained by the San Jose Mercury News reveal.

Everett Fred Basham, 45, was arrested in February after sending a threatening email to Democratic state Sen. Leland Yee. Police uncovered several homemade bombs and firearms, including a .416 Barrett sniper rifle, at his Santa Clara home.

“I have 39 confirmed kills in afganistan [sic],” Basham wrote in his email to Yee. “Don’t make me get to 40.”

His military service has not been confirmed. Police also found fake Army credentials in his home.

The email provided a disturbingly specific details of how Basham planned to assassinate Yee. He warned he had several “hiding spots” near Yee’s office in Sacramento and that his sniper rifle “can hit a spinal cord at 1.5 miles making a head become red mist.”"

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idiottwo

Mar-15-13 6:39 AM

I wonder if the anti gun folks would credit the current administration for the souring gun sales? How can it be the areas with the strictest of gun laws, like DC and Chicago have some of the most dangerous areas and shootings are so common?

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MBardo

Mar-15-13 6:41 AM

CHayes, first question: Are you comparing the NRA, and by extension its members, to al Qaeda?

Second: What does the story about the deranged pastor have to do with this letter?

Last: Are you comparing the all who support the second amendment to the lunatic in California?

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idiottwo

Mar-15-13 6:45 AM

Hayes - what's with your comment "another law abiding citizen?" From your description, he isn't a law abiding citizen.

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CHayes

Mar-15-13 6:54 AM

"CHayes, first question: Are you comparing the NRA, and by extension its members, to al Qaeda?"

Not at all. What I'm saying is that the NRA vigorously, and successfully opposed a law that would have prevented people on the terrorist watch list from buying firearms, just a few years ago.

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eriklatranyi

Mar-15-13 7:00 AM

CHayes:

The terrorist watch list is full of innocent people who have nothing to do with terrorism. In fact, I believe, the late Senator Ted Kennedy was on the watch list.

I wonder how you would feel if we extended the terrorist watch list to prevent those people from having abortions. You would scream of arbitrary standards and no due process.

The NRA believes you are innocent until proven guilty....and even then, your firearm rights can be revoked or reinstated.

It's too bad you do not feel the same way.

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CHayes

Mar-15-13 7:23 AM

" In fact, I believe, the late Senator Ted Kennedy was on the watch list."

Sure he was, along with a Democratic Congressman, because members of the Bush administration put them there. They were on the watch list for a couple days. You know who else is on the terrorist watch list? Terrorists. And the NRA can't have their true constituency, gun manufacturers, losing sales, now can they?

" I wonder how you would feel if we extended the terrorist watch list to prevent those people from having abortions."

Sure I do. Just as soon as someone can demonstrate how someone can walk into a crowded shopping mall, and massacre a couple dozen people with an abortion.

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CHayes

Mar-15-13 7:25 AM

" Hayes - what's with your comment "another law abiding citizen?" From your description, he isn't a law abiding citizen"

Now you must be mistaken there, because if you come here with any regularity, you would understand that only "law abiding citizens" with only the best intentions buy guns.

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CHayes

Mar-15-13 7:31 AM

" The NRA believes you are innocent until proven guilty."

The only thing the NRA believes, is that people on the terrorist watch list, and convicted violent offenders are potential customers. Can't let those sales numbers lag now can we, with silly things like universal background checks, or prohibitions on likely terrorists buying firearms to kill Americans. Why if those people buy firearms, and use them to kill Americans, a wave of fear might sweep the country, and drive sales.

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rick424

Mar-15-13 7:44 AM

Funny thing about the right, well there are many, but if this were about the ACLU(you know, that organization that really does protect people's rights) How about NOW (you know, that organization that protects women's rights) Just imagine the comments. Here we go with those selective arguments again. In my opinion the NRA has worn out its welcome.

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eric88

Mar-15-13 8:12 AM

Rick, do you even put an ounce of intelligent thought into anything before you post it?

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Bufftrev1

Mar-15-13 8:18 AM

Excellent post, rick.. happy st pattys day a little early to you..

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rick424

Mar-15-13 8:20 AM

Sure, do you?

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MrShaman

Mar-15-13 8:39 AM

"an industry on it's "last legs"." - MrShaman

Delusional much?" - MBardo

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Totally-incapable of recognizing sarcasm, much??

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MrShaman

Mar-15-13 8:41 AM

"Just because you don't want or think you need to own a firearm at this time, doesn't mean you may not in the future. The N.R.A. will still be there to support your rights at that time"

Yep. If you're an al Qaeda operative, or even if you've threatened your Congressman's life..." - CHayes

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...Or, a Glenn Beck fan.

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MrShaman

Mar-15-13 8:46 AM

"Sound familiar to anyone here?

"The former pastor of an Indiana megachurch who is awaiting sentencing in a sex crimes case told a 17-year-old girl that Jesus wanted her to have sexual relations with him." - CHayes

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That's as far as I needed to go, to recognize it wasn't Teddy-Boy Haggard, back in-action.

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CHayes

Mar-15-13 8:52 AM

Glenn Beck might still be on TV if he had understood his audience better. For example, if instead of speaking English language words, some of them with 3 sylables or more, maybe he should have tried communicating with pictures, and a series of grunts.

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