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March 17, 2013

I would like to ask a few questions of this paper’s readers....

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mikekerstetter

Mar-17-13 5:57 AM

I agree.

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Tedeaux

Mar-17-13 6:11 AM

And for the gun control advocates among us, it is perfectly acceptable and your Constititional right to NOT own a firearm of any sort if you chose not too.

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DavidBross

Mar-17-13 6:31 AM

I have a few thoughts. First, police are charged with the responsibility to protect others as well as actively seek out people who are frequently armed and dangerous. So, there is more involved in their work than simply self-defense. Second, why not use the military as the experts? Then the author could say "any weapon that is available to the military for self defense should be available to law abiding citizens for the same purpose."

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eriklatranyi

Mar-17-13 7:44 AM

Think about it this way....the gov't should live by the same rules as the people and not have special privileges.

The more we accept from a "ruling class" versus "ordinary citizen" gov't, the more enslaved one becomes to the other.

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eriklatranyi

Mar-17-13 7:53 AM

David:

The founders had the military in mind when they wrote the 2nd Amendment.

The founders did not advocate cannon ownership, just the same arms that a man could carry.

In today's terms, that is a select-fire M16-A4 and M9 9mm pistol. The military also uses shotguns and snipe rifles for specialized applications as well. Those weapons are currently owned by the general public.

That is why the liberal argument that if you want parity with the military, then you advocate private ownership of nuclear weapons. But those are not weapons carried by a soldier.

Remember, the weapon is not dangerous, it is the man who carries it. If that man is evil, he will use whatever is available.

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sideliner

Mar-17-13 8:20 AM

"Think about it this way....the gov't should live by the same rules as the people and not have special privileges."

OK, so I can start printing my own cash and minting my own coins. I would like a new Social Security number and maybe wipe out some debt. And speaking of debt, I'll set my own interest rate on my mortgage. There are definitely a few laws I just don't agree with, so let me wipe them off the books.

erik, your statement makes no sense. The gov't absolutely has special "privileges," duties, functions, and obligations that the "people" just do not (and should not) have.

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enigma

Mar-17-13 8:25 AM

David, The police are merely citizens with a specific job to do. They should never be armed better than the citizens who hired them. You stated that the police have a responsibility to protect others, but so do you and I. Even in places where the legal reguirement has been removed, the moral responsibility remains. If you saw a woman being attacked, would you call the police and wait, or would you help? What if it was a child? Remember, the police are rarely their in time to protect, they arrive in most cases to take a report. You don't need a gun for that. If you don't take your responsibiliby to protect others seriously, how about your responsibility to protect yourself, or will you outsource that to the police also?

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JerryfromRI

Mar-17-13 8:31 AM

I've noticed that United Nations related conspiracy theory conversation has dropped dramatically since the Newtown shooting.

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enigma

Mar-17-13 8:35 AM

sideliner, Don't be an ***. What erik was saying is that people in the government should live by the same rules. Yes there are some functions that we have, through the Constitution, appointed to the government, but it does not appoint the government to own all guns, in fact it specifically prohibits that. Erik has stated the Constitutional view of gun ownership very well and you want to make moronic statements about printing your own money. Why don't you try to add something meaningful to the conversation? If you don't have anything, then just read and learn.

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jeff33

Mar-17-13 8:41 AM

The police use 40 cab. now and have for a long time!

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jeff33

Mar-17-13 8:47 AM

*40 CAL.*

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philunderwood

Mar-17-13 9:12 AM

A civilized society delegates the use of force to government for use in protecting individual rights. That doesn’t mean citizens relinquish their own right of self-defense. Gun possession has nothing to do with crime in and of itself; crime is the use of a gun for criminal purposes.

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CMReeder

Mar-17-13 9:21 AM

Well it is quite apparent Phil that we do not have a civilized society any more. With all those dangerous predatory animals that roam free in our country especially our cities and all of the violent threatening people who reside is our country also. Worse of all we have law enforcement that carries very powerful weapons to use against us.

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richardson

Mar-17-13 9:25 AM

A little off subject: My choice for home protection would be: A pump or double barreled shotgun loaded with buckshot. Never mind whether the ammo is #6 bird or 00 the mess would be gory. For a handgun: .45 (pistol or revolver). My consideration takes into account that my defense should not be my neighbor's worry, thereby eliminating from consideration ammo that could penetrate my neighbor's living room.

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Bufftrev1

Mar-17-13 9:46 AM

Excellent comment, sideliner.. enigma, it is not necessary to be rude, yours is not the only opinion in the conversation.. there are plenty of others who are routinely rude on this forum, this behavior is not typical of yourself.

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CHayes

Mar-17-13 10:50 AM

It looks like MD could not contain the spill of crazy called CPAC, and its leaked across the border. Police don't have any special authority, and should almost always be outgunned by the criminals they're charged with apprehending? That sounds more like a child's tantrum than a point of view.

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CHayes

Mar-17-13 10:53 AM

It seems the same people that have been buzzing for weeks now about their desire to violently overthrow the govt, now ant to disarm the police.

What a coincidence.

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eriklatranyi

Mar-17-13 10:54 AM

sideliner:

Nice try, but epic fail.

We assign duties and functions to gov't, such as printing money. That is why you cannot do it.

But if you engage in insider trading, you might go to jail. Your elected officials are exempt from that same restriction.

We are talking about rules for everyday life, so stop the nonsensical posts.

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eriklatranyi

Mar-17-13 10:58 AM

CHayes:

Nobody advocates disarming the police.

But your statement that we want them outgunned from the criminals demonstrates your lack of logic as follows:

I guess disarming citizens who have to face those same criminals is OK?

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CHayes

Mar-17-13 11:06 AM

" I guess disarming citizens who have to face those same criminals is OK?"

You have frequent armed confrontations with criminals? Tell me about the last meth lab you raided. When were you last called to respond to a hostage situation at a bank robbery?

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DavidBross

Mar-17-13 12:41 PM

Another aspect to consider is that police receive extensive training and operate under an organized command and control system. So, I think that if the argument is going to be made that what the police have, citizens should have; then the citizens should be obliged to under go the same training and operate under the same command and control system.

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JerryfromRI

Mar-17-13 1:02 PM

@DavidBross

Sounds like what you are describing might be considered a 'well regulated militia'.

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Tedeaux

Mar-17-13 1:32 PM

It was about 1997, I used my Colt Model 1911 to stop a guy that was attacking a woman in the parking lot of the apartment complex I was living in. She was screaming RAPE at the top of her lungs! Well, that fellow must have had an urgent appointment somewhere else, 'cause he sure left out of there like his hair was on fire once he turned and looked into that .45 caliber gun barrel! I didn't shoot the guy because I didn't know exactly what was going on at that moment. Another time, I was driving down the main drag in Houma, LA in broad daylight and witnessed a black male knock the crap out of a black women in the parking lot of a business I had just past. I turned around and when I got out of the car with my weapon drawn, this guy suddenly remembered he had better things to do, cause he left as well. My dentist was driving down the road and witnessed a white couple fighting on the side of a rural highway. The guy was trying to drag her back to the car. Made him think it was a typical lo

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Tedeaux

Mar-17-13 1:40 PM

Continued: lover's quarrel until he stopped to see if he could referee them in to calming down. Turns out the guy was attempting to abduct the woman and Dr. Dayries held the guy at gun point until the law finally arrived about 20 minutes later. I can't honestly say that any of these women would be alive today if someone hadn't intervened with a firearm.

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JerryfromRI

Mar-17-13 1:54 PM

@Tedeaux

Did your firearm have a thirty round clip?

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