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Many drillers bless new environmental policing

March 21, 2013

PITTSBURGH (AP) — Some of the nation’s biggest oil and gas companies have made peace with environmentalists, agreeing to a voluntary set of tough new standards for fracking in the Northeast that......

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ToTEXASfromPA

Mar-21-13 10:59 PM

Well it sounds like everyone has embraced the new standards. I am glad that everyone is happy. Let's go drill some more wells.

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eriklatranyi

Mar-21-13 5:13 PM

pincer is the equivalent of a holocaust denier!

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BornHere

Mar-21-13 4:35 PM

There is a article written on what princr said about the DEP where they list every secretary since the DEP's inception that has ties to the gas industry.

The article is called,"Revolving Door: Connection between the DEP office and the gas industry". March 5, 2013

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nobud74

Mar-21-13 3:47 PM

I find it interesting that the very people who woe the nonexistent good paying jobs, the high cost of utilities and fuels and the lack of tax revenue are the very ones who oppose this industry. Here you have the opportunity to put some correction into all of that and all they can be is negative. Yes, we have a beautiful state, but it requires money to operate and it needs jobs and industry to get that money. It seems like a pretty simple move to get on board in order to start to cure the three aforementioned issues. Perhaps there are those who really don't want any change.

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billybob

Mar-21-13 2:27 PM

erik..., get real, DEP is paid off by the gas industry, we all know that!

Wow cant believe to took pinecr this long to get his delusional adgenda out there again. Maybe we could trade him to Mexico for someone who wants to be a productive member of society..

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pinecr

Mar-21-13 1:42 PM

erik..., get real, DEP is paid off by the gas industry, we all know that!

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pinecr

Mar-21-13 1:39 PM

Well how much money did the energy companies give Heinz and others to go along with fracking? and their going to use less toxic fracking fluids, HEY I thought all along they were saying they were not using any chemicals that would hurt the water, air, etc. Funny how they say one thing to get what they want. Apparently they don't think we are too smart and we will buy into this idea of working together.

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eriklatranyi

Mar-21-13 12:45 PM

Liberals think they are charitable.

It's too bad they do it with someone else's money.

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eriklatranyi

Mar-21-13 12:43 PM

Spike is not profit driven. He never asks for a raise and refuses if offered one.

He is in it for the quality of life.

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spike2

Mar-21-13 11:01 AM

"Nothing has changed on the part of the industry, they just allowed the DEP inspectors to have free help.". Therein lies the problem. They see no reason to change. They are profit driven while the people are "quality of life in PA. driven".

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eriklatranyi

Mar-21-13 10:42 AM

I love it!

The industry formalized standards that were already in place by allowing independent monitoring of those standards.

Nothing has changed on the part of the industry, they just allowed the DEP inspectors to have free help.

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ThomThom

Mar-21-13 10:30 AM

Could be a positive start but I have some skepticism. Let's not forget the excellent job BP did in adhering to established environmental protocols in the Gulf. All the agreements (treaties if you will) will amount to nothing unless adhered to and strenuously monitored. The industry is well aware of this.

It is important to understand the actual dynamics put in play here. This did not emerge organically nor, in fact, was the outcome inevitable.

A sophisticated public affairs campaign was rolled out over several years under cover, hatched in Cheney's "secret" energy meetings which indeed did happen and were indeed secret. The industry subverted established local institutions, media,etc. and seeded the whole operation with that most effective of all motivators, greed, before central PA knew what hit it. We were "rolled".

The local environmental response would be laughable if it were not so tragic, Rider Park being the exception.

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BornHere

Mar-21-13 9:31 AM

rick, that is why I flew out of town I was at that meeting with 3 others from the area.

spike2 is right this meeting was not political, it was about making the industry accountable for what they are doing to the environment and what they can do it fix it. The industry knows what they are doing to the environment and are willing to comply to change it "hopefully".

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TheMoe

Mar-21-13 9:20 AM

If they are so concerned, tell them to stay the*****out of the Rock Run watershed.

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spike2

Mar-21-13 8:19 AM

Well ericlatranyi, given the number of disagrees, my guess is your "industry" is not to popular here. I don't believe it is only extreme environmentalists who don't like what they are seeing of the "industry". Pennsylvania is an unusual State. Folks here, no matter political persuasion, like our streams and forests. We like our roads in reasonable repair. We like Rose Valley, Pine Creek and our northern counties. Party does not seem to be an issue here. It seems most of our population has coalesced around a dislike or distrust of the "industry". Too many false promises of jobs and safety, of land preservation and road repair have proven to be false in total or in part. In total, Pennsylvanians may just prove to be a stronger and more united group than you expected. Other than those receiving munificent profits, which may not be worth the financial gain in the long run, seems the sturdy folks of this State have learned to "Just Say No".

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rick424

Mar-21-13 8:02 AM

Bornhere, it is called damage control for the industry. One that really is not doing well in PR. Of course our publication would pick up on this and not the others.

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BornHere

Mar-21-13 7:35 AM

If the worst about the gas extraction didn't exist, these new 15 standards would not have been put in place.

So I guess some in the gas industry were listening to someone's opinion.

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rick424

Mar-21-13 7:32 AM

Actually this is another story in Washington county. Google it. But yes that one is a great story that somehow got overlooked in this publication.

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JerryfromRI

Mar-21-13 7:21 AM

@rick424

The accident and evacuations in Washington County were the first thing I thought of when I saw this article.

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rick424

Mar-21-13 7:18 AM

I thought it was perfectly safe before? What changed? Why not a story about the Hallowich family in Washington county?

Just another feel good story about the industry, but I am glad to see something, time will tell how this will pan out. There is a lot of interesting reading on this.

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JerryfromRI

Mar-21-13 6:46 AM

The Center for Sustainable Shale Development has no website that I can find.

The PA Green Party makes no mention of this 'accord'.

Interesting.

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eriklatranyi

Mar-21-13 5:58 AM

Well, well, well. It seems environmentalists and the industry have come to common ground.

Of course, that will not stop some from still believing the worst about natural gas extraction.

But, it took years before Democrat racists were able to turn away from the KKK and join the Republicans in supporting racial equality.

So, there is hope for them.

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