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Consultant: Build anew, consolidate 2 facilities

March 28, 2013

Lack of room to put inmates and rising trends in certain criminal activities have put Lycoming County commissioners and court officials in what one former county district attorney characterized as......

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LaughIn

Mar-29-13 2:28 PM

The tent is a great idea! Can you read Shaman? The VIOLATORS are DUI offender's, minimal bunking time needed to get the objective. Temporary = Tent

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MrShaman

Mar-29-13 8:00 AM

"Sheriff Joe Arpaio created the "tent city jail" to save Arizona from spending tens of millions of dollars on another expensive prison complex.Inmates sleep in tents.....GO FOR IT!!!!!!" - andy33

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Yeah...I'm "sure" it'd break-your-heart, if we transferred all our prisoners to Arizona.

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ajcdds

Mar-29-13 12:43 AM

OK, so you can't add any additional floors to the existing building; so what are you left with? Wheeland wants a new prison at the farm. Burke (not that it matters) wants it on RT 15 South. Has anybody looked at the site? There is a parking lot to the east (appx. 10,000 sq. foot print) and one to the west. They should first deal with DUI and Non-Violent crimes appropriately (i.e. non prison time). And if more space is needed.... DO AN ADDITION! Do a first floor secured garage, used for transport with the sheriff vehicles. Also add additional floors for the sheriff dept. There, is plenty of space to also add cells and a "Daily Probation Reporting Center". This is common sense ... something government has little of at times.

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USABorn

Mar-28-13 10:40 PM

MrShaman - 5:54 AM

"Are there individuals attempting to push OUR prison-management the same route as the PA Lottery?"

I read in the Mail UK a few days ago, that a U.S. firm handles the UK National Lottery. If true, why can't the PA lottery be handled by this company? I sent 2 state legislators an email asking about this.

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KMoney

Mar-28-13 2:48 PM

"Be a CITIZEN not a PARASITE to your community." - MartinJ

"You "conservatives" surely-do seem to enjoy using that pro-fascist/Rand/Ryan-term "parasite"!!" -a total Sham

The two most meaningful words and you gravitated to the one you relate most. Common among liberals and hatemongers as they don't know productive citizenry.

SEE: Ben Stein's Expelled.

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jeff33

Mar-28-13 1:18 PM

They could put up Big Circus tents out on the Farm for them and a big fence around the tents!

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jeff33

Mar-28-13 1:14 PM

I heard the guys that own the Cell Block want to buy it and make it into a Night Club.

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andy33

Mar-28-13 1:13 PM

For those not familiar with Joe Arpio, he is the County Sheriff of Maricopa County, Arizona. He keeps getting re-elected over and over again.

These are some of the reasons why:

Sheriff Joe Arpaio created the "tent city jail" to save Arizona from spending tens of millions of dollars on another expensive prison complex.Inmates sleep in tents.....GO FOR IT!!!!!!

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biobabycj

Mar-28-13 9:49 AM

again not that it really matters, but, when the new prison is built, could this old prison maybe used instead of ripping it all down, remodel it inside as a lower income based housing. NOT FOR GASHOLES or university staff!!!

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biobabycj

Mar-28-13 9:47 AM

as long as taxpayers will foot this bill and it doesnt affect the people making these decison's paychecks they wont care about our suggestions. however, to save on some money, some of those so called non violent inmates especially ones needing something to do, could be used as general laborers when they DO rebuild. nothing wrong with them, they got in there. they can push around a wheelbarrow, they can help carry lumber or cinderblocks.. put some of the lowlife scum that many have mentioned,,,,, the drug users the drug sellers out to find out what real labor is about. W O R K... theres no simple solution. we can grump all we want, but people are still going to commit crimes. its been going on since the beginning of time.. Eve disobeyed and ate the apple. ever since then all started going to he LL..

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MrShaman

Mar-28-13 9:26 AM

"...if the Police would of got a hand on it back then we would not have this problem!" - jeff33

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LOL!!!!!! Yeah...the local-police would have shown the REST-o'-the-Nation how to combat that greate$t of combo$; Prohibition + Capitali$m!!

Hey...they're cops...not magicians!!

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MrShaman

Mar-28-13 9:17 AM

"Be a CITIZEN not a PARASITE to your community." - MartinJ

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You "conservatives" surely-do seem to enjoy using that pro-fascist/Rand/Ryan-term "parasite"!!

How "odd" you'd never considered that term, when DICK Cheney turned Iraq into a contractors' free-for-all.

See:

Truth About Halliburton And Dick Cheney (YouTube)

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jeff33

Mar-28-13 8:45 AM

The prison use to have work release facilities at the prison but they move them out to the farm many years ago that was when they were running out of space then and house low risk inmates down in Sub4, the old work release. They should of just built a big prison out on the farm back 1986 but that is when the Philly, Jersey, and New york trash stat to come up here and kept on coming, if the Police would of got a hand on it back then we would not have this problem!

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andy33

Mar-28-13 8:11 AM

I find it interesting that taxpayers [NOT incarcerated] need to pay MORE to "care" those that have some difficulty obeying STUPID>>>SIMPLE...BRAIN DEAD laws.......really....something is wrong with this picture...!!!!!

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spike2

Mar-28-13 8:09 AM

It can't support an additional floor. What would you do with all the inmates during construction? A structural change is not as simple as merely flopping another floor on top.

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localguy

Mar-28-13 7:41 AM

I'm sure this bridge has been crossed, but why can't they explore the option of an added floor to the current prison? Renovations like that can happen much easier at maybe 10M versus building a new prison at a cost of 40M! The building is not "stick" built, it is built with steel beams and concrete, id hope it could support the added floor.

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MartinJ

Mar-28-13 7:26 AM

Last time I checked, Driving under the influence of drugs or alcohol was a Crime. Instead of everyone complaining about the DUI's why don't people stop driving drunk or under the influence of drugs? Perhaps that would be a stellar idea. No one cares until it is their family member who gets killed by some idiot who steps out of their car sloshed and barely able to stand. Accountability people. You want less people in the prisons THEN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. Take your friends keys before they drive and turn in the druggies. Don't get angry at the Police and Judges for doing their jobs. Its not their fault its yours. Be a CITIZEN not a PARASITE to your community.

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acrman

Mar-28-13 6:48 AM

duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, paying a consultant for something we all know is needed, how about revamping the system ?stop wasting jail space on dwi arrests and start arresting the real criminals.

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MrShaman

Mar-28-13 5:54 AM

"CGL was founded in 2002, combining 35 years of experience in planning, design, and management through the merger of Carter Goble Associates Inc.; CGA Facilities Inc.; Lee Design and Management Group Inc.; and Lee Engineering and Management Group Inc. CGL services include planning, project management expertise, facility maintenance, facility design, and robust facilities management services for social infrastructure. CGL has provided its broad range of services in 17 countries, 49 states, and more than 500 counties, delivering more than $7 billion in public facility construction."

See: Hunt Companies Acquires Carter Goble Lee

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I'd be anxious to find out (exactly) what "robust facilities management services" means. Are there individuals attempting to push OUR prison-management the same route as the PA Lottery?

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