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Not complicated

March 29, 2013

I love the AT&T commercials with the guy and the kids. The tag line – “It’s not complicated” – is perfect for explaining the federal budget situation. It’s not complicated....

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Tedeaux

Mar-29-13 2:38 AM

Just saying it's not complicated doesn't change some basic truths about our American situation. We are now a country where almost half our citizens live off of the fruits of the labor of the working class other half. The current bunch of politicians we have in Washington, got elected by promising that if elected, these benefits would continue. Not only continue, but increase with the addition of free healthcare. Now what person in their right mind that is living on the dole, would vote for the guy that runs for public office on the promise that he's going to take all of your government supplied income away? We are so s c r e w d!

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gavinf56

Mar-29-13 5:40 AM

"We are now a country where almost half our citizens live off of the fruits of the labor of the working class other half." - Tedeaux

You might want to rephrase that a bit Tedeaux. I understand the point you are trying to make, but there is a difference between the paying of no Federal Income Tax and "living off the fruits of the labor of the working class other".

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mikekerstetter

Mar-29-13 6:24 AM

Good letter.

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MrShaman

Mar-29-13 6:25 AM

"Say you bring home $1,000 per week, but you're spending $1,500. So you borrow $500 every week to cover your expenses. That seems OK for one week, but after a month you're $2,000 in debt. After a year it's $25,000, yet you're still bringing home just $1,000 a week. And how do things look five or ten years out? It's not complicated you can't go on like this." - Don Shade

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What a perfect analogy of U.S. debt...post BU$HCO tax-cuts!!

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MrShaman

Mar-29-13 6:31 AM

"The current bunch of politicians we have in Washington, got elected by promising that if elected, these benefits would continue. Not only continue, but increase with the addition of free healthcare." - Tedeaux

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I'm "sure" you can direct everyone to a point-in-time where everyone was promised free health-care! Direct quotes (and, where-and-when they happened) would be helpful.

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Bufftrev1

Mar-29-13 6:55 AM

I'm afraid it actually is a little more complicated that the author presents..

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Premier

Mar-29-13 7:01 AM

When no common sense is present anything can be "complicated".

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Tgrammiex4

Mar-29-13 7:40 AM

All the Pols in Washington will never see a problem with overspending until it effects THEM.When thier pay decreases, when thier benefits are cut, when they can no longer survive on what they make then they will get it.They have no clue how the average American lives.I bet most couldn't tell you what a loaf of bread or a gal. of milk costs these days.

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CMReeder

Mar-29-13 7:49 AM

There is where people get it wrong. It is not the same.

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idiottwo

Mar-29-13 8:17 AM

fixing this will be complicated. It will take honesty, conviction, faith and a can do attitude from politicians. Those politicians will need to make hard descisions. Some of those will have a life changing impact on folks, but it is needed. Our politicians have a huge responsiblity with this in mind. In part to fix errors and misjudgements they made. Will they rise to the occasion? Do they have the honor and character to make the right descisions? What heroes that can be....or not.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Mar-29-13 8:24 AM

Support Ted Cruz. Support Rand Paul. Vote like minded people into office.

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Bufftrev1

Mar-29-13 8:37 AM

Hi Texas - yes, support rand Paul.. an avowed antagonist of fellow Kentuckian Mitch McConnell.. until elected and becoming a fellow power broker. It appears the tea party is an apt microcosm for the party as a whole.

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Tedeaux

Mar-29-13 9:02 AM

I disagree with you, Idiotwo, in that it will be the politicians that fix our problem. The fix will come after a catastrophic event that suddenly awaken the American voter into realizing that we cannot continue to spend money that we do not have. The change will come when the majority of the voters are scared to death.

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LaughIn

Mar-29-13 9:05 AM

A+ for Don Shade!

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ToTEXASfromPA

Mar-29-13 9:49 AM

Different topic.

About 2000+ years ago at this time of day, Jesus had been accused of blasphemy, tried in front of several public officials, falsely sentenced to crucification, been beaten and scourged with a whip that had many multiple pieces of metal on the tips that would rip out small amounts of flesh each time he was beaten. About now (adjusted for our time zone) he was probably carrying the cross to the place where they would crucify him. Battered, beaten, bloody.

Image the crowds. "Save yourself Jesus!" "I thought that you were going to rebuild the temple in 3 days!"

In the hours to come, nails to be driven through his hands and feet. The sky is darkened, the veil rips in the Holy Temple, good people arise out of tombs and walk around, and one men next to him on another cross trusts in him and Jesus says "this day you will be with me in paradise."

How unmeasurable his love for us to willingly do this for us. Paid in full!

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MrShaman

Mar-29-13 10:25 AM

"fixing this will be complicated. It will take honesty, conviction, faith and a can do attitude from politicians." - idiottwo

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...AND, precedence!!!!

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See:

President Clinton Announces Another Record Budget Surplus

"...the $5.7 trillion national debt has been reduced by $360 billion in the last three years -- $223 billion this year alone."

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MrShaman

Mar-29-13 10:28 AM

"Support Ted Cruz. Support Rand Paul. Vote like minded people into office." - ToTEXASfromPA

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Unfortunately, you're not gonna get Joe McCarthy's vote, THIS-time-around.

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MrShaman

Mar-29-13 10:30 AM

Tedeaux Mar-29-13 9:02 AM Agree | Disagree

I disagree with you, Idiotwo, in that it will be the politicians that fix our problem. The fix will come after a catastrophic event that suddenly awaken the American voter into realizing that we cannot continue to spend money that we do not have." - Tedeaux

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...ESPECIALLY when it's a Blue State...like Jersey...correct?

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MrShaman

Mar-29-13 10:36 AM

"The sky is darkened, the veil rips in the Holy Temple, good people arise out of tombs and walk around..." - ToTEXASfromPA

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Who knew a Zombie Apocalypse was trendy, (even) back, then?

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CarlHiller

Mar-29-13 11:12 AM

The truth to the Clinton fairytale is far more complicated and, more interesting. Clinton never paid down the national debt and never had a surplus, it was all smoke and mirrors. It is a tale that is patently false, as can be seen and verified on the U.S. Treasury website under the "Bureau of the Public Debt". The national debt went up every single year. This is one problem from government using "baseline budgeting". What Clinton did was pay down the public debt by borrowing far more money in the form of intragovernmental holdings (Social Security funds for one). The total national debt increased each and every year under Clinton. Only in D.C. would that somehow be considered a "surplus".

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CMReeder

Mar-29-13 12:27 PM

If there was no surplus under Clinton what was Bush giving back to the people after he became president?

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Premier

Mar-29-13 6:02 PM

The Clinton surplus myth has been solidly proven to be a fairy tale yet the Democrats keep pulling it out of their hats time after time.

I still remember the debate over whether he was going to pay down the debt or put it back in the SS fund where he slole it from.

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Premier

Mar-29-13 6:46 PM

"If there was no surplus under Clinton what was Bush giving back to the people after he became president? "

I give up............what?

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no1philly

Mar-29-13 7:56 PM

the fairy tale is simply noone shows any facts at all just pulling*****out of there ass!!!

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Premier

Mar-29-13 8:22 PM

Okay here are your facts:

For example, in 2000, Clinton claimed a $230B surplus, but Clinton borrowed $152.3B from Social Security $30.9B from Civil Service Retirement Fund $18.5B from Federal Supplementary Medical insurance Trust Fund $15.0B from Federal Hospital Insurance Trust Fund $9.0B from the Federal Unemployment Trust Fund $8.2B from Military Retirement Fund $3.8B from Transportation Trust Funds $1.8B from Employee Life Insurance & Retirement fund $7.0B from others

Total borrowed from off budget funds $246.5B, meaning that his $230B surplus is actually a $16.5B deficit. ($246.5B borrowed - $230B claimed surplus = $16.5B actual deficit).

If there is ever a true surplus, then the national debt will go down.

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