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Unkind words

March 31, 2013

Lately we have witnessed unkind words directed against the gay communit....

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rick424

Mar-31-13 5:59 AM

"I'm absolutely not anti-gay, but..." Says a lot. Happy Easter.

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mikekerstetter

Mar-31-13 6:27 AM

Francine, I can't speak for the writer because I am not her nor do I know her.

But what I take from that message is something I've said all along; love the sinner. There are people who hate the sinner despite Jesus' calling us to do otherwise. On the flip side though, you have many Same Sex Marriage advocates who believe that pointing out that that Bible calls Homosexuality a sin equates to hatred. Here is a quote that I posted yesterday that applies:

"Our society has accepted two huge lies. The first being that if you disagree with someone's lifestyle you must fear and hate them. The second being that if you love someone you have to agree with everything you believe or do. Both are nonsense. You don't have to compromise convictions to be compassionate." -Rick Warren.

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eriklatranyi

Mar-31-13 6:28 AM

Do not redefine the word marriage.

Homosexual couples can have legal unions.

Do not expect churches or other private organizations to recognize their unions.

Keep gov't out of marriage, unions, etc.

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mikekerstetter

Mar-31-13 6:32 AM

Cont'd...- So you don't have to correlate the Bibles stance that Homosexuality is a sin with a call to love the sinner.

There are a lot of things that family and friends do that I don't like nor agree with, but that doesn't stop me from loving them despite of it.

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MrShaman

Mar-31-13 6:45 AM

"I'm absolutely not anti-gay, but being that you're a minister Rev. Charnock, doesn't it state in Leviticus 18:22 that homosexuality is an abomination? How do you correlate that with what you and your wife support, as do I??" - Francine

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If your preference is a Life of perpetual-confusion, you folks certainly have found the right book to "guide" you!!

See:

Biblical Contradictions

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Bufftrev1

Mar-31-13 7:10 AM

Haha.. that's funny, Mr. Shaman.. and quite accurate.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Mar-31-13 8:28 AM

The Rev. Dr. John Charnock, I agree with your second paragraph on down. Concerning the first, I see people that love others but disagree with a life-style just like they would love and disagree with a friend in an adulterous relationship.

The question for you is if the Supreme Court strikes down DOMA, CA Prop 8, and the State of PA legalizes marriage of two homosexual people, are you going to officiate the ceremony and put your name on the marriage certificate? If you would officiate the ceremony, how would you justify your position before the Almighty God?

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eriklatranyi

Mar-31-13 8:31 AM

Tolerance and acceptance are two different things.

This issue confuses those two words in an attempt to redefine the meaning of marriage.

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rick424

Mar-31-13 8:41 AM

Where exactly does it say marriage is between a man and a woman? And are you not asking government to define that? If you want government out of it then that goes for your side also.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Mar-31-13 9:01 AM

Rick242, would you read Genesis 2:18-24 and Matt 19:4-6 and provide your interpretation.

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eriklatranyi

Mar-31-13 9:17 AM

rick:

I don't want gov't to define marriage. There is no reason for gov't to define marriage.

If you want to ensure your spouse receives benefits, write a contract.....in that way you can ensure your opposite sex partner, same sex partner, dog or cockatiel gets what you want them to get.

Marriage does not need special treatment by the tax code, social security administration nor the Dept of Health and Human Services.

But this is what happens when gov't gets involved in too many things.....it introduces complexity and reduces individual freedom.

It is gov't that stands in the way.....every time.

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CMReeder

Mar-31-13 9:50 AM

Keep government out of marriage.

Okay! That means that government will no longer recognize the rights of marriage for anyone. Government will no longer enforce or enact laws that protect the holdings, property, relationships of marriage. No one outside the church system wil be force to recognize and honor marriage of anyone. So let's do keep government out of marriage and make all marriage illegal partnerships.

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philunderwood

Mar-31-13 10:31 AM

Sin is a religious concept and as such our laws shouldn’t be based upon what some consider sin.

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eriklatranyi

Mar-31-13 10:55 AM

Mr. Reeder said:

"So let's do keep government out of marriage and make all marriage illegal partnerships."

Spoken like a true liberal dolt.

If gov't is not involved, that does not make it illegal, nimrod!

Get gov't out of marriage and let couples define their legal commitment to each other with a contract.

Marriage is between the two people and God, not the community.

Let's keep it that way.

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eriklatranyi

Mar-31-13 11:26 AM

Phil said:

"Sin is a religious concept and as such our laws shouldn’t be based upon what some consider sin."

Isn't it funny that liberals use the term "sin" when they want to tax beer, cigarettes or liquors?

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mikekerstetter

Mar-31-13 11:28 AM

Francine-"The motive for my post was not homophobia. I love everybody who's nice to me. My point was to illustrate one of the inconsistancies that so often involve the Bible."

What inconsistency?

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CMReeder

Mar-31-13 11:52 AM

Moron Erik trashes marriage and law. Government recognizes your marriage, protects it, and honors it. I said they should not at all. No status for being married, no tax breaks for being married, no preference for being married. No acknowledgement of any kind for marriage for anyone.

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CMReeder

Mar-31-13 11:54 AM

"Isn't it funny that liberals use the term "sin" when they want to tax beer, cigarettes or liquors?"

This is how stupid you are Erik, religion referred to them as sinful and pushed many times to have them outlawed. Therefore the 'sin' tax.

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CMReeder

Mar-31-13 11:57 AM

"Marriage is between the two people and God, not the community."

Then you have no need for ceremony, clergy officating or the church; just you, your intended and God.

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mikekerstetter

Mar-31-13 11:59 AM

CMReeder-"No status for being married, no tax breaks for being married, no preference for being married."

How about that. Chuck is agreeing to get rid of tax deductions. Welcome to the right, Chuck.

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eriklatranyi

Mar-31-13 12:46 PM

Mr. Reeder said:

"Then you have no need for ceremony, clergy officating or the church; just you, your intended and God."

That is right, if you choose that way.

If you want a church ceremony, fine.

If you want an orgy in Las Vegas, fine.

We don't care how you unite and the gov't should not care about it either.

Welcome to the right.

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philunderwood

Mar-31-13 1:56 PM

The marriage ceremony is what makes the legal contract valid and binding.

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DavidBross

Mar-31-13 6:54 PM

Substitute "mixed race" for "same sex" in the debate regarding marriage and we have the same argument the country experienced 50 years ago. I doubt anyone against "same sex" marriage would be inclined to bring up "mixed race" marriages today.

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WKnapp

Mar-31-13 11:58 PM

Jesus directed those He healed to, "Go, and sin no more." He didn't point out to them that what they were doing was a sin, but continue sinning. Repentance is not easy, but the pursuit of true and full repentance is very fulfilling and cathartic. True and full repentance is not just saying, "I'm sorry." and continuing to sin. True and full repentance is saying, "I'm sorry", and then turning from, and not returning to, the sins.

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wwhickok

Apr-01-13 6:23 AM

Don't care what Jesus said, don't care what your pastor says, don't really give a **** what you say honestly, Equal Rights to everyone regardless of sexual preference will prevail and your religion based laws will be destroyed in the U.S. Supreme Court,*****on that for a while.

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