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Hesitant council OKs agreement with ex-city cop Kreitz

April 5, 2013

Council Thursday night begrudgingly approved an undisclosed settlement agreement between the city and former city police Cpl. Dustin Kreitz....

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aretesancus

Jul-10-13 3:43 PM

LaughIn, you are a simpleton if you continue to equate doing something wrong (taking a truck fishing to Canada) to being a crime (theft).

I will say this as slowly as I can...If the trip to Canada had been a CRIME, the Attorney Generals office would have charged Ungard and McKenna with whatever crime they violated.

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LaughIn

Apr-05-13 4:44 PM

So joy riding using taxpayers money is ________(fill in the blank). Taking a TV without paying for it is ________(fill in the blank). Theft! I suppose the more you keep telling yourself stealing is okay, the more you believe it to be true. So is Ungard still employeed by the city?

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Luey22

Apr-05-13 4:20 PM

Spike...If a cop gets a DUI, what happens? I think you might know the answer to this question (or Magic, Smid, Art)....Cops should not be getting arrested especially if they aren't doing anything wrong...LOL

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Smid1972

Apr-05-13 4:20 PM

Laughin, you’re not understanding. It wasn’t a matter of wanting him back it was a matter of them having to take him back if he wanted his job. This was the reason for paying him off. The city did not want him back on the force so they paid him back pay since he was suspended and any extra so they wouldn’t have to deal with him again. And again I keep saying this. Ungard and Mckenna did nothing wrong going to Canada, yes it wasn’t right to do it on taxpayer money but there was nothing illegal with it. Firing those two for going on a fishing trip would be like firing a burger king employee for putting lettuce on a sandwich that wasn’t suppose to get it.

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Luey22

Apr-05-13 4:15 PM

Who gives a Rats @$$ about these "bad" cops, they both got what they deserved. So a black book listed some names,the DA covered?,they dug into Ungard/Kreitz job, found they were both doing honest things (yeah, that is why they were arrested PERIOD), tried to divert attention away from the power houses in the book (which it worked), etc. etc,. Who cares......good riddance (IF THE JERKS CARED ABOUT THEIR JOBS, THEY WOULD HAVE ACTED LIKE IT).

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spike2

Apr-05-13 3:57 PM

aretesancus is correct. Kreitz pled and Ungard went to trial. I know there are those on here like Andy who think he should never work again. An ungraded misdemeanor is even less than a D.U.I.. If we fired everyone in town who has/had a D.U.I. we would definitely have more jobs available. There is more to this story that none of us will ever know. Why was McKenna able to keep his job?

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LaughIn

Apr-05-13 3:51 PM

Smid1972, so you are trying to tell us that the Union didn't back Kreitz to keep his job? Who would rehire him anyways? Better yet, who would take the kid serious if he was? Is Ungard still employeed by the city?

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Smid1972

Apr-05-13 3:27 PM

aretesancus you are correct, laughin you seem to not understand employment. The police department HAS to follow the rules of firing and hiring, if they do not they are susceptible to a lawsuit. If they would have fired Kreitz and he was found not guilty (which he was) they city would have had one heck of a lawsuit on their hands. Ungard did nothing illegal, hence the misdemeanors, same with Kreitz. All the city did was pay him off so they don’t have to rehire him and pay benefits and pension. The DA had no evidence cause there was no evidence. Their demise happened because they busted a local cocain dealer and found a book of names. Some of the names in that book were pretty big names. Maybe you all forgot about that because you are too worried about a fishing trip.

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jeff33

Apr-05-13 2:43 PM

would

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jeff33

Apr-05-13 2:43 PM

$300,000.00 Why wohld he want to come back!

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LaughIn

Apr-05-13 2:25 PM

Dustin Kreitz should have known better! That Ungard was given free reign and Kreitz went along for the ride. How many other POs went for rides with Ungard?

Hey Aretesancus, is Ungard still a PO?

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Magic1

Apr-05-13 2:24 PM

He was basically suspended until the outcome if the trail! While unfair and unjust he was entitled to his back pay from said suspension, I don't think the city or council for that matter had any option but to pay. I think that was the council president meant. While its horrible and unjust or unfair I do think the city had no other option that or go to court! Then everyone would complain that money would be wasted at the tax payers exspense. Again what options where there? But go ahead people complain like you have all the answer cause we all know you could do better! Insert sarcasm anywhere you want in the last sentence....

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aretesancus

Apr-05-13 1:41 PM

Kreitz did NOT go to trial.

"...Kreitz pleaded guilty in court to a charge that said he did not file the proper paper work that he received a television as a gift that was the property of the task force."

And it was an unclassified misdemeanor -- a lesser graded offense than a first-time DUI. Cop or not, no one goes to jail for that conviction.

Remember that Ungard, who was his own attorney at trial, was found "not guilty" of all felony counts and was found guilty of just three misdemeanors. Makes many who have followed this case wonder what, if anything, Kreitz was really guilty of.

It could be -- and has been -- argued that the AG's Office didn't really have a case against Kreitz at all, which is why they approved a plea agreement for an offense Kreitz was not even originally charged.

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LaughIn

Apr-05-13 12:55 PM

"ASK THE UNION!!!!!"-Andy

"I don't THINK the unions are to blame.." -Smid1972

Excuse me, but how long has the man been suspended? Who do you THINK kept his job for this long Smid1972?

Spike, according to Fish25, you shouldn't know that information. You must be an insiders :)

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Smid1972

Apr-05-13 12:21 PM

I don’t think the unions are to blame here, and trust me I’d be the first one to say unions are killing this country. The problem is that the court decided that Kreitz did not break any major laws (a.k.a. misdemeanor). With this being the case the city was/is obligated to give Kreitz all of his back pay to the rank and pay grade to what he was prior to his suspension and the city would also be required to give him his pension and his job back to his rank prior to suspension. I agree this was a raw deal but in the end I think the city made out in this deal. back pay + job back would have given him a higher pension which means the potential of much more money in the long run. Pay him up front, no more lawsuits, no more lawyers, no pension, no more Kreitz. Hopefully lessons learned from all this.

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JohnMBower

Apr-05-13 11:38 AM

Oh what a corrupt (or just incompetent?) little city we live in. Had you or I, members of the great unwashed mass of citizens of this city, done what this man has done, we'd be thrown in jail without a second thought or batted eye. Kreitz, a man who had taken the spoils of the drug dealers, isn't jailed, he's paid for the inconvenience of having been caught. As citizens, we must demand transparency of our city government and demand they cease making secret deals in back rooms. Any money paid to this man is doubly wasted. This is money he did not deserve, a reward for his crimes. But it is also money that will never be spent fixing a road or improving a school in town, or even buying those new police cruisers they just ordered.

"We have to do this because we have to do this," Council President Bill Hall said. "Otherwise, I think we would be disinclined."

Who exactly is pulling your puppet strings, Mr. Hall?

It is time to make a clean sweep of the city coun

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andy33

Apr-05-13 11:14 AM

Well Spike....he NEEDS to be excluded from employment...anywhere...this behavior will be repeated. Unfortunately, some on the WPD are not upstanding citizens...'fooling' around while on the job...lying....on and on...!!!!! ....Why aren't they fired... WHY...ask the UNION!!!!!

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spike2

Apr-05-13 9:19 AM

I believe Kreitz went to trial and was only convicted of a misdemeanor by a jury (local jury). I think the outcome of his case played a huge part in the obligation to pay. Misdemeanors rarely exclude anyone from employment. Individuals were suspended from Utility Companies in the past for offenses but with pay until resolution of the case.

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msamerica101

Apr-05-13 8:38 AM

I wish someone would explain to me why this is such a big deal. I just don't get all of the hype over this.

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streetmachine

Apr-05-13 7:16 AM

wow back in 1988 my friend took a van w/o permision on a joy ride to flordia and a tv he got 4 years in prison what is the difference between the two ?????

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metalhead

Apr-05-13 6:32 AM

There CROOKS! and the only thing they should be getting is Jail Time!

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Tedeaux

Apr-05-13 5:43 AM

Back pay for a suspended cop that stole a TV from the department? There has got to be more to this story than is being told here.

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CarlHiller

Apr-05-13 5:37 AM

Crime does pay and quite well from the looks of it. Become a crooked cop or a politician and the sky's the limit.

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localguy

Apr-05-13 1:46 AM

Scumbag Kreitz is laughing all the way to the Bank! As long as everyone knows his name is "mud", then there is some semblance of right.

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