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Knife vs. gun

April 13, 2013

I find it extremely interesting that this paper (Williamsport Sun- Gazette) chose to put the article regarding the college students from Texas that were "stabbed" late Tuesday morning on page A-4 of......

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Ritty77

Apr-13-13 3:27 AM

There are better arguments against further gun control laws than bringing other items (designed for different purposes) into the mix, in my opinion.

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Tgrammiex4

Apr-13-13 4:29 AM

Murder, whether using a gun, knife,hammer or any other weapon is intentional, whereas most deaths by vehicle are accidental. Even drunk drivers don't drive drunk with the intent to kill.Who would have thought something as simple as a box cutter could murder over 3000 people in one day? Where are the box cutter laws? Criminals with the intent to kill will always find a weapon, laws or no laws.

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CarlHiller

Apr-13-13 5:50 AM

There is only one argument against more laws for gun control - The 2nd Amendment. Each word properly defined and understood in context with the founders written words of what the Amendment stands for proves the Feds and some states have and are overreaching.

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Bufftrev1

Apr-13-13 6:16 AM

Yeah, Erik, liberals caused 9/11.. nice talkin to ya..:

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Premier

Apr-13-13 7:09 AM

Since an average of 195,000 people die each year from medical malpractice, one is 600 times more likely to die from Obamacare than from a firearm.

Shocking!

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DavidBross

Apr-13-13 7:35 AM

Erik, the comment about 9-11 really seems a stretch. Carl, would you be comfortable changing the word "more" to "any" in the first sentence of your post? Also, regarding the second sentence of your post. The framers of the Constitution knew that there would never be complete agreement on what ideas like "properly defined" means. That's why they included the Supreme Court in the Constitution.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Apr-13-13 7:36 AM

"this paper (Williamsport Sun- Gazette) chose to put the article regarding the college students from Texas that were "stabbed" late Tuesday morning on page A-4 of the newspaper."

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It is like we continue to add fuel to the fire and it grows and gets bigger.

Human nature with the desire to know vs keeping society's mind clean and innocent. The more we see and read about evil, the more that it seems to grow and escalate.

Maybe the article should not even be in the paper at all. Of course without all the blood and gore, would the paper even exist? People seem to glory at the mis-fortune of others.

We as a society need to focus our thoughts on what is pure, good, caring, loving, righteous, and helpful while at the same time protecting ourselves and others from evil.

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CMReeder

Apr-13-13 7:52 AM

See people are going to kill people so just give them the best tool to do the job, why use a knife when you can use gun with a large capacity clip(s). It is a lot more efficient. Who needs gun control or any controls when you have people wanting to kill people.

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eriklatranyi

Apr-13-13 7:58 AM

Mr. Reeder:

I am delighted by your epiphany that there will always be people who want to kill other people.

Unfortunately, your desire to disarm the law-abiding makes the killer's job that much easier.

Thank you for helping make our point!

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WKnapp

Apr-13-13 8:03 AM

The SCOTUS was created to provide judicial oversight to laws passed by Congress, not to review, revise and legislate on their own. They are to rule only on those laws that directly pertain to the federal government, not to meddle in decisions made by the citizens of sovereign states in matters the Constitution didn't assign to the federal government. (See the Tenth Amendment)

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JerryfromRI

Apr-13-13 8:27 AM

"Box cutters did kill 3000, but only because liberals taught our citizens to be sheep during a hijacking." --eriklatranyi

God bless America!

Be thankful that we live in a country where we are all free to express our opinions.

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MrShaman

Apr-13-13 8:32 AM

"Since an average of 195,000 people die each year from medical malpractice, one is 600 times more likely to die from Obamacare than from a firearm.

Shocking!" - Premier

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No...what's "shocking", is...every time one o' you folks is provided the opportunity to IDENTIFY what (within Obamacare) has precipitated your rant, you "magically" disappear.

FAIL!!!!!

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JerryfromRI

Apr-13-13 8:49 AM

"Box cutters did kill 3000, but only because liberals taught our citizens to be sheep during a hijacking."--eriklatranyi

It is my sincere wish that every Republican candidate for office make these 17 words their campaign slogan.

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rick424

Apr-13-13 8:56 AM

This is funny and the comments are equally funny. Maybe we should ban cars...classic.

You and your partner are eating out and a man runs into the restaurant yielding a knife and another man runs into the restaurant yielding an assault rifle. Which one are you more and likely going to die from? In fact, which one are multiple people going to die from? I will take my chances with the knife. Again, how many died in Texas from the stabbing spree? How many children died in Newtown in the shooting spree? Seems like the assault rifle is a pretty lame argument to me.

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Tgrammiex4

Apr-13-13 9:11 AM

As long as there is any part of this country's population that is evil or mentally unstable there is no way to completely stop this from happening. All the laws in the world won't stop it. No gun bans will stop it.Free will exists and you never know when someone will choose evil over good.Sadly, thats the way it is.

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enigma

Apr-13-13 9:30 AM

Rick, What is the cutoff point? How many people have to be killed before we outlaw the tool used to kill them? That seems to be your argument. Knives are OK because you can't kill as many people with them, so where is the line. If some nutcase drives a car into a group of kids on a field trip and kills 20 of them, will we then have to ban whatever kind of car he was driving? Your reasoning is faulty. You set up criteria that even you don't believe in. Guns don't kill people, not even assault rifles. The problem with gun violence is not the gun, it's the violence and that does not reside in any inanimate object, but in the human heart.

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rick424

Apr-13-13 9:47 AM

Your argument is lame enigma, no one is suggesting to ban guns, just assault weapons. Or maybe old people should not drive after a certain age. Answer my question, which one would you stand a chance of surviving. How many died in Texas, how many died in Newtown. Yes a mad man can kill with whatever, but a mad man can kill more with the right tools take that tool away and less will die. I have asked this before and no one answers. To me the answer is obvious.

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rmiller

Apr-13-13 9:53 AM

"Maybe we should launch a ban on all objects that are capable of infliciting injuries"

Maybe we should begin with those most injurious to the populace - like Washington DC?

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spike2

Apr-13-13 10:12 AM

Completely redundant.

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enigma

Apr-13-13 10:14 AM

Rick, Mine was not the lame reasoning. Why don't you answer the question? How many deaths does a weapon have to be capable of before you want to ban it? You are talking about banning guns. What you call an assault weapon is a gun. would you want to ban anything that can cause 0ver 20 deaths? No you wouldn't. You just want to ban guns that scare you personally. If I were in a restaurant and someone came in bent on killing people, it would not matter to me, I would shoot them. Yes the assault rifle might be a little riskier, but that does not mean we should ban them. Banning them will not keep criminals from getting them. What part of criminal don't liberals understand? If a person is going to commit a crime do you really think it will stop him if he has to commit another crime in order to commit the crime he intends? People who would obey an assault weapons ban, are not mass killers. Now you have about a half a dozen questions to answer before you have a right to ask more.

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Tgrammiex4

Apr-13-13 10:18 AM

Yes a mad man can kill with whatever, but a mad man can kill more with the right tools take that tool away and less will die. Unfortunately, there's a black market on these "Tools" and they can't be controlled any better than drugs can.

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rick424

Apr-13-13 10:41 AM

So there is no answer. We should do nothing. Enigma we should ban assault weapons just like we do switch blades. We go back and forth on here and there are no answers. One side feels yes and the other no. So why continue and let the legislators do their job. Whatever way they vote we just have to abide by the law. Like it or not.

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Ritty77

Apr-13-13 10:46 AM

"...no one is suggesting to ban guns, just assault weapons."

Rick, are you OK with just banning the manufacture and sale of these assault weapons or should current owners of existing assault weapons be required to surrender them?

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Tgrammiex4

Apr-13-13 10:50 AM

Rick, not trying to butt in on your conv. with enigma. Would just like to offer something.If we keep passing laws that ultimately will not stop these killings from happening, we are also chipping away at our freedoms (aka amendments)If we start compromising them, where will it stop? Should gov't be able to start taking them away? Even if it's little by little, eventually we'll have no rights.

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Fredzz

Apr-13-13 10:52 AM

enigma,

Thank You,

Thank you for offering your opinion and thoughts on the topic of Gun Control.

I don't know you, but based on your comments I see you as an even-tempered, informed, rational, sincere, fair minded, responsible realistic, individual.

Thanks for being you.

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