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What has happened?

April 13, 2013

When I opened the paper on April 4, and started to read about the teacher beaten at Williamsport High School by two females, I thought what has happened to my town and my alma mater? When I went to......

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eriklatranyi

Apr-13-13 5:41 AM

Disrespect for authority.

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DavidBross

Apr-13-13 7:43 AM

"When I went to school at the old WHS, students and teachers would talk before class about sports." I sincerely doubt all students would talk about sports before class. The author, as is typical and understandable for teenagers, lived in the small world of his friends and family. There were segments of the student population then that he never associated with. And it is very possible that some of those segments lived lives that are not much different than the what is experienced by the two fighting students that injured the teacher.

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CMReeder

Apr-13-13 7:57 AM

"Disrespect for authority."

Must have gotten that from how greedy teachers are and over paid they are and how teachers pay and benefits are sucking the money out of your pocket and how teachers are not not good at their jobs and how schools don't educate and how we need more guns in schools and parents are responsible for kids not the community. Gee I wonder where kids get the idea not to respect authority?

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eriklatranyi

Apr-13-13 8:01 AM

Mr. Reeder:

If the kids are learning that we overpay teachers, it is a good thing.

I also suspect these kids parents' are not conservatives, but liberals who spit on soldiers returning from VietNam and burned their bras in protest of "the establishment".

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MrShaman

Apr-13-13 8:40 AM

Mr. Reeder:

If the kids are learning that we overpay teachers, it is a good thing.

I also suspect these kids parents' are not conservatives, but liberals who spit on soldiers returning from VietNam and burned their bras in protest of "the establishment". - eriklatranyi

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Ah, yes...time for wannabe-Neocons to roll-out the fairy-tales!!

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See:

Spitting on the Troops: Old Myth, New Rumors

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Galumph

Apr-13-13 8:59 AM

Vietnam? Then them high school parents must be 65 years old.

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rick424

Apr-13-13 9:03 AM

The teacher should have had a gun, just blow them away because the teacher was fearing for their life, that would teach them those hoodlums. Then all the children would respect teachers and there would never be any problems in school again. Obviously this LTE writer did not go to WAHS in the late sixties, ahhh those were the days, especially those student teachers.

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enigma

Apr-13-13 9:10 AM

When Mr. Newman was in school, they had Bible reading and prayer. They also had punishment for bad behavior. They did not teach that people are just animals and that killing unborn people is OK. They did not teach children that each one of them is the center of the universe. It is not just that there is no respect for authority now, there is no respect for human life.

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enigma

Apr-13-13 9:18 AM

Leave it to David to miss the entire point of the letter. It seems to be his stock in trade. One week he was fixated on the use of pronouns, today he can't help but notice that we're not all the same. The point is that in the 50's teachers were not afraid of students. They were not being assaulted and they were respected. Yes there were troubled kids, but they did not attack teachers, and if they did fight, the fight stopped when a teacher showed up. Things were different in the 50's, some worse, some better. Fixing the problems of the 50's is not what caused today's problems, so we do not have to reverse everything to get back to a time when children have respect for authority and life in general.

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BornHere

Apr-13-13 9:24 AM

There was one group who spit and called returning Vietnam Veterans traitors and that happened at the 1972 Republican Convention.

It was the Administration who abused my husband and other Veterans by sending them to fight and die and when they came home they did not take care of them.

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rick424

Apr-13-13 9:40 AM

Did anyone here watch the movie "Blackboard Jungle" I really don't think it was so rosy as you think it was in the 50s. I really hate these arguments, people only remember the good. Hey, I used to walk 10 miles to school uphill both ways in the snow up to my armpits, barefoot. Yea whatever.

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enigma

Apr-13-13 9:42 AM

Bornhere, You can't be serious. The Vietnam war was started by JFK and escalated by LBJ, both Democrats. The ones spitting on the returning troops were mostly college students who were being stirred up by left wing agitators, who where unhappy that we were mucking up the Communist takeover of South Vietnam. It was a Republican administration who finally ended the war and brought everyone home. It was a mess, but it was over. Veterans have been mistreated under administrations of both parties, but usually not as a matter of policy, but as a matter of cost. I appreciate your struggle with Vietnam, but at least get the story straight.

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rick424

Apr-13-13 9:55 AM

Actually it was started during the Eisenhower administration. When I came back from Southeast Asia I did not see anyone there but my family. No news crews, no people waving flags, nothing.

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Navyman

Apr-13-13 12:43 PM

My wife does have her story straight. My brother went to Vietnam under orders from Eisenhower to arm and train the S. Vietnamese while serving on the USS Independence and from March of 1959 we were at war.

I served from 64 to 72 as one of the SEAL Platoons in Vietnam running military operations, and not once on any of my shore leaves did I encounter anyone spitting on me.

It might have been the Republican Administration who ended the war, but it was also the Republican's who did not live up to their promises to care for returning vets coming home from Vietnam, and left the POW's behind.

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DavidBross

Apr-13-13 1:27 PM

"Leave it to David to miss the entire point of the letter. It seems to be his stock in trade." Well hope does spring eternal, so I shall endeavor to do better in the future. In fact, on the bright side, Enigma didn't find my post "nauseating" has he has a previous post of mine. For those of you who clicked "agree" on my posts, I apologize for misleading you.

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WKnapp

Apr-13-13 5:05 PM

Yes, Viet Nam started during the Eisenhower administration. It was, however, the attempts to prosecute the war by the suits in D.C., none of whom had a clue concerning the nature of war, that lead to the length of the conflict, the costliness in both human life and financially, and the reaction of the people at home. Does anybody realize that John Kerry got a Purple Heart? He's so unassuming and would NEVER mention it himself!

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Buddy1

Apr-13-13 5:23 PM

Navyman, I served on the USS Paul Revere 66 to 68 and you are right about the war. Nixon sacrificed the lives of American soldiers during Vietnam to further his political agenda.

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jeff33

Apr-14-13 5:07 AM

INFLUX! SEND THEN BACK DOWN THE PIKE!

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