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Acting against terror

April 23, 2013

As the question of how to try Dzokhar Tsarnaev is discussed, it begs for an answer to the question of what kind of war on terror we’re fightin....

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Tedeaux

Apr-23-13 3:58 AM

Even though these two individuals were born overseas, the survivor is now an American citizen. Heck, he graduated from the same high school as Ben Afleck, Matt Damon and Patrick Ewing! Who are we going to declare war on, the liberal leftwingers? This kid did vote for Barack Obama! I do not understand why these bombers, that have lived in America for ten years, hate us enough to bomb us. It is a statement, but what its saying, I do not know yet. Not reading this kid his rights only stands to make it a easier to ship him off to Cuba and waterboard the crap out of him for as long as we want without having to deal with his lawyer!

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gavinf56

Apr-23-13 5:24 AM

He is an American citizen and allowed all of the rights as guaranteed in the CONSTITUTION, it matters not if he was natural born or naturalized.

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Tgrammiex4

Apr-23-13 5:29 AM

Sadly, this guy will be afforded more rights than his victims have. He will probably get a legal team to defend him that none of us could ever afford.He will no doubt be found guilty in the end, but at the expense of the taxpayers and his victims.It's hard to have mercy on an evil person like this.

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Ritty77

Apr-23-13 5:39 AM

It is illegal to declare an American citizen (natural or naturalized) an "unlawful enemy combatant."

But there is no need to rush to Mirandize him either. He can be questioned as an enemy combatant, but anything he says must be kept separate from the civilian case against him.

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VinceKnauff

Apr-23-13 5:57 AM

Since he is a citizen, we should try him for treason. Seems like a case could be made against him on those grounds.

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gavinf56

Apr-23-13 6:05 AM

I am not sure if you could get a charge of treason to stick against this kid.

Bradley Manning however, should be charged with treason.

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WKnapp

Apr-23-13 6:11 AM

Does anybody know whatever happened to the third suspect, the person of interest who was a Saudi national? The one the authorities said they had in custody last Tuesday, who Michelle Obama supposedly went to visit, who was supposedly set for deportment, and they just stopped talking about? I didn't hear. Did they decide he had nothing to do with the bombings and release him, deport him, or was this incident reported wrongly? Has this been dismissed, become a dropped case, or just hushed up? I just remember the initial report saying they had a Saudi 'person of interest' in this case for questioning, but I didn't catch the resolution. Does anybody else know about the conclusion and resolution of this matter?

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MrShaman

Apr-23-13 6:12 AM

"...as far as I've been able to determine, we haven't legally declared war on terrorists." - Phil Underwood

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You were in a coma...all THRU the BU$HCO-years??!!!!

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MrShaman

Apr-23-13 6:16 AM

"Heck, he graduated from the same high school as Ben Afleck, Matt Damon and Patrick Ewing!" - Tedeaux

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Whoahhhhhhhhhhh...TWO Hollywood-elites, AND a Black-dude??!!!!! I'D say that requires he be DRAWN & QUARTERED; NO TRIAL NECESSARY!!!!!

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MrShaman

Apr-23-13 6:21 AM

"It's hard to have mercy on an evil person like this." - Tgrammiex4

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Ah, yes...another beneficiary of fairy-tale terminology.

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MrShaman

Apr-23-13 6:27 AM

"Does anybody know whatever happened to the third suspect, the person of interest who was a Saudi national?" - WKnapp

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That was (merely) Rupert Murdoch's most-recent effort to pull a "Palin".

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ToTEXASfromPA

Apr-23-13 6:31 AM

Maybe we are asking this question because we have made it too easy for non-citizens to enter and stay in the US for an extended period of time, even when there are some questions on their behaviors that could lead to deportation?

Maybe we are asking this question because we don't have a simple way to infiltrate a country to remove a US citizen and bring them home to stand trial for crimes they have allegedly committed against citizens of the US?

Maybe we are asking this question of civil trial vs. military trial because our civil system has become too soft in the drawn-out appeal processes and sentencing/execution?

Maybe we don't understand the radical element and what it is they really stand for?

Maybe we as a nation are becoming more immoral and we want to avoid these signs of people judging our actions?

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Tgrammiex4

Apr-23-13 6:40 AM

It's too bad MrShaman can only make stupid replies to other's comments and not come up with any original comments of his own that add to the discussion.

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Darlin

Apr-23-13 7:34 AM

The thing that really irritates me is that now that this kid has been caught and not killed, we can use our taxpayer dollars to feed him and house him with free healthcare for possibly the next 60+ years. Even if he receives the death penalty, how long will it be until he is actually "removed" from our system? As far as Shaman, he is to be ignored because he obviously has ignorant to politics and only seems to put ridiculous remarks and nothing credible.

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Darlin

Apr-23-13 7:35 AM

And I forgot to mention that we will be providing him with a defense attorney and the trial time and expense that will also be paid by taxpayer dollars. Personally, I think after what he did, he doesn't deserve a civil trial. He should be shipped to Gitmo and put on death row there.

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eriklatranyi

Apr-23-13 7:38 AM

Our current immigration system is broken.

We allow students to come on visas, but do not check on them while they are here.

We naturalize brothers of suspected terrorists.

We have no control over our borders.

But liberals want to grant blanket amnesty for everyone here.

Liberals do not want us to call them "illegal" aliens.

Liberals hoped the bombers were white men.

Liberals told us to not jump to conclusions.

Liberals----wrong on immigration.

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wwhickok

Apr-23-13 7:57 AM

Hang the son of a b***h in Times Square and let people throw stones at his rotting carcass!

Now ask me if I'm joking. I'm sick of these pathetic fools who think they can come to our country and push us around. All you Anti-Gun people, good luck protecting yourself when the time comes. This is the United States of America, best, albeit most expensive, country in the world. Why? Because we're free to tell all those other governments to F-Off. Let what happened to the two bombers be a lesson, you F**k with America and you get a whole country on your back, not just a few. While we might differ on political views at the end of the day, what separates us from the rest is that in the UNITED STATES we're ONE NATION! You fu** with one of us, you deal with ALL of us! This guy doesn't deserve a trial, he deserves to be an example to everyone else who comes to this country thinking they have the right to kill innocent people.

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wwhickok

Apr-23-13 8:00 AM

As for the trial, you can try his a** on a 3 day jail sentence, it doesn't matter, as soon as he gets to Prison a REAL AMERICAN is going to KILL HIM!

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CMReeder

Apr-23-13 8:00 AM

The right is off their nut today.

Interesting question Phil, good luck finding an answer with this group.

I am not going to bother further with this letter.

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JohnZook

Apr-23-13 8:03 AM

As far as the Saudi national goes, he,s dirty up to his eyebrows in this, but Obama's Saudi handlers have told him to let the boy go. And, there are actually two Saudis, but if we want oil and airbases in Saudi Arabia, we're told to let them alone. Love a strong leader, don't you?

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spike2

Apr-23-13 8:07 AM

The Saudi referred to is in Mass General. he was actually injured in the bombing. He is not being deported. Mrs. Obama visited Brigham Womens and Childrens Hospital. Stop reading The Blaze and internet news. This individual came to our country when he was 9 y.o.a.. He will get a life sentence. If we kill him we have no source. The exception allows for 48 hours to mirandize. The best way to gain any information is to allow him to co-operate his way to a life sentence. Aren't you the same group who complained about "drone attacks" on enemy combatants who are U.S. citizens. Pick one. It's A or it's B. What would you say if they had 'taken him out" prior to the bombing?

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gavinf56

Apr-23-13 8:17 AM

"Aren't you the same group who complained about "drone attacks" on enemy combatants who are U.S. citizens. Pick one. It's A or it's B. What would you say if they had 'taken him out" prior to the bombing?" - spike2

I agree spike, it's either one or the other or just stfu.

The young man is a US citizen and is afforded ALL of his rights as outlined in the Constitution.

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nobud74

Apr-23-13 8:24 AM

The bomber is an American citizen. He is to be afforded all the rights and protections that we here all enjoy. To do less will lead to your rights and protections being eroded. I believe that our rights and protections as Americans are more important than the desire by a bunch of rabid mouth breathers to hang him. I cringe at the thought of the expense and effort it will take for the trial and incarceration, but it is small potatoes when compared to losing our liberties.

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wwhickok

Apr-23-13 8:46 AM

"The bomber is an American citizen. He is to be afforded all the rights and protections that we here all enjoy. To do less will lead to your rights and protections being eroded. I believe that our rights and protections as Americans are more important than the desire by a bunch of rabid mouth breathers to hang him. I cringe at the thought of the expense and effort it will take for the trial and incarceration, but it is small potatoes when compared to losing our liberties."

Being dubbed an American Citizen because you moved from some other country, imo, doesn't make you an American. Buying into the Country and becoming a true part of it does. These fkin guys, the only thing they ever bought into was their previous homeland where the cool thing to do is kill Americans. I don't give a flying **** what his rights are or whether you think I'm a rabid mouth breather or not. The guy deserves every bad thing that happens to him. But we all know that when he's sent to prison he

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wwhickok

Apr-23-13 8:50 AM

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isolated for his own protection because, as I said, the moment he steps into the jail, if there is the opportunity, someone his going to kill him and it won't be quick and painless. The mentality that we should continue to afford terrorists respect and rights is ridiculous. Make an example out of them the way they do us. The reason it continues to happen is that people in this country are too chicken sh** to stand face to face with them and shove back. Shut down the borders and stop letting immigrants in, we've got enough people in this country who commit crimes, we don't need more. We got enough people who abuse the system and overpopulate the employment culture, we don't need more. If anything, start revoking visa's and sending people the heck back where they came from. Anyone from any 'questionable homeland' that isn't a citizen should be automatically deported, and perhaps some of the 'non-natural citizen citzenships should be revoked too.

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