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Doing nothing no answer

April 28, 2013

In a LTE published April 19, Mark Weisel writes, “…whatever present form of gun control legislation they vote for, or against would not have made one bit of difference in the Newton, Conn. shooting....

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michaelpaternostro

Apr-29-13 8:48 AM

Stephanie, It was a "shameful Day in Washington" but not for the way they voted. The choice was made correctly i think. What they did was vote to save their jobs. Typical Washinton D.C., Becuase they know that the legislation stunk may also have a part in the outcome of the vote. We already have more gun related laws than you can think of and again our idiotic govenment won't enforce the laws on the books,but at the same time they okay "fast & Furiuos" and then dodge the issue when americans get killed as it backfires! How quickly we forget. How about Obama just lets the UN decide? Wouldn't that just work out great?(for the record, i believe the UN should be asked to leave our shores) We the gun owners do not want to be like any other country that gives away our constitutional rights to keep and bear arms, unlike you apparently.Maybe the government should limit some of your constitutional rights and then we can ask you how you feel about it??

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eriklatranyi

Apr-29-13 8:40 AM

Clw1162:

conservatives do not oppose caring for the insane or prisons for the violent.

We oppose asking a person who works to pay for someone who doesn't because it is a form of slavery.

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clw1162

Apr-29-13 8:26 AM

All of you that think the answer is better mental health care....just who is going to pay for that since you all are against universal health car?? just wondering..

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USABorn

Apr-29-13 7:35 AM

Pittsburgh Post-Gazette:

A music store owner in PA was surely glad to have his firearm when a customer, who browsed in the store for several minutes, left the store and came back a minute later with a club.

The suspect then used that club to beat the store owner’s wife in the head (I assure you, such an attack can easily be lethal).

Fortunately the store owner did have a firearm. He drew his revolver and shot the suspect, killing him.

The Chief of Police said they are unsure of the motivation for the attack.

The owner’s wife is being treated for her injuries at an area hospital.

According to the police conference video, the couple were in their 70s. Clearly the presence of the gun saved their lives against someone younger, faster, and stronger.

The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette offers more information.

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USABorn

Apr-29-13 7:13 AM

While traveling around the internet last evening, I read a comment which I want to pass on.

"WE ARE TOLD NOT TO JUDGE MUSLIMS BASED ON THE ACTIONS OF A FEW."

"I SUGGEST WE GIVE MILLIONS OF RESPONSIBLE AMERICAN GUN OWNERS THAT SAME CURTESY."

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idiottwo

Apr-29-13 6:22 AM

a reality check, go to Chicago or DC. those cities have very strick gun laws and yet they have the highest murder and violent crime rates, but son't let that get in the way of your thinking.

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WKnapp

Apr-28-13 11:30 PM

The title of this letter really caught my eye. Why is it better to do something just for the sake of doing something, even if it's demonstrably the wrong thing to do, rather than to do nothing? Why is a so-called "do-nothing" Congress considered a bad thing? Do we not have enough laws in this country? Would it not be a better thing to enforce the laws with which Congress has already saddled us than to create new bad legislation just to keep from being perceived as doing nothing? Has nobody else noticed that the times of less economic turmoil occur during Congressional recesses, when nothing is being done legislatively? It is always better to do nothing than to do the wrong thing.

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eriklatranyi

Apr-28-13 7:34 PM

Sideliner:

First, you are absolutely wrong about gun shows. Buying a rifle from a dealer at a gun show requires a full background check and approval.

So that is a lie.

Second, the NRA has already announced that the show will not allow sales.

Two lies from you.

You question our "need" to own a semi-automatic firearm.

Are you that stupid to want to go down that road?

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Ritty77

Apr-28-13 6:38 PM

A semi-automatic weapon with a 30-round magazine equals "all this heavy artillery."

I'm reading a lot of stupidity.

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sideliner

Apr-28-13 6:35 PM

There most definitely a gun show loophole in PA. Only the sale of handguns require background checks and only purchases through a licensed dealer. Private sales are not governed by the same restrictions.

And there most definitely be sales at this NRA sponsored event in 2014 in Harrisburg.

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sideliner

Apr-28-13 6:27 PM

No one has addressed why citizens need all this heavy artillery. I'm reading a lot of selfishness. I want. It's my right. The police have it; so should I. No thought or care about the possible impact on anyone else.

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msgjsheets

Apr-28-13 4:23 PM

What it your stance on Abortion Stephanie! If you want to reduce killing, let's limit the number of abortion clinics per state!!

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nobud74

Apr-28-13 2:36 PM

Enjoy Buff. They do a great job. I just finished walking 18 at WD, great fun and exercise. We will have to disagree. I just can't understand why we must punish the law abiding and ignore the current laws that our criminals break. Nobody can demonstrate that such a process will halt illegal activity by criminals.

And if you haven't seen Clyde's butterfly exhibit, we saw it in NY and it was incredible.

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enigma

Apr-28-13 12:37 PM

"Now, don't you all get a warm and fuzzy feeling knowing that convicted felons can, and no doubt will, be purchasing weapons at the NRA-run Great American Outdoor Show to be held at the Farm Complex in Harrisburg in February 2014 without being prescreened with an instant background check?"

OOPS, a double lie. First, background checks are required for gun sales at gun shows. All sales made by licensed gun dealers require background checks, even at gun shows. Nearly all gun sales at gun shows are by licensed dealers. THERE IS NO GUN SHOW LOOPHOLE! The second lie is that anyone will buy a gun at the NRA event. The NRA does not allow gun sales at there events. Not felons or even law abiding citizens will be buying guns at the NRA outdoor show.

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Bufftrev1

Apr-28-13 11:30 AM

Hi ritty.. I think you know that republicans and a few Democrats in gun friendly regions of the country are the reason it didn't pass. It's a shame that people cite previous instances as reasons not to take measures that may prevent future occurances. Conservatives aren't even reactive, let alone proactive unless it involves supporting their core constituency of big business and the wealthy few.

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eriklatranyi

Apr-28-13 10:19 AM

Adam Lanza planned his murder spree carefully, hoping to set a record for number of kills.

He chose the school because it was an undefended target with large numbers of people.

But when it is suggested we allow arms in schools, liberals laugh.

Meanwhile, liberals like Bloomberg, Feinstein, Schumer and Obama all have firearms protecting them.

If armed security is good enough for worthless politicians, it is past due we extend it to our children.

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Ritty77

Apr-28-13 10:00 AM

Those same polls indicate that of those 90%, more than half believe they will have no effect on gun violence.

Gun-control advocates failure to support the proposed legislation with facts that it would have any effect are the reason for its failure in Congress.

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Bufftrev1

Apr-28-13 9:46 AM

Hi nobud.. I'd argue that liberal thinking is not flawed.. I believe it is accurate to say that strong public opinion, validated by polling perhaps as high as 90%, favored passage of this law. It seems as though the liberal thought process is to something, rather than nothing, which seems to yet again be the conservative mindset. It seems as though republicans want the titanic to sink before mandating that there be adequate life boats on board.. have a good day, we're going to reptiland today..

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Tedeaux

Apr-28-13 9:03 AM

The author states that gun control debate is not finished. I ask, why isn't it? Our duly elected representatives in Congress have heard both sides of this debate from the people and have cast their legal vote to maintain the current laws as they are. Get over it or don't complain everytime a conservative congressman offers up legislation to recall all of the liberal laws that have been jammed down our throats in the last four years! Out lawing lawfully purchased weapons will turn law abiding citizens into criminals. Well armed criminals at that. Would that protect anyones life at this point?

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BubbaZanetti

Apr-28-13 8:58 AM

Somewhere out there is a fully automatic M16 that is missing from the Philadelphia Police Dept. See: phillyconfidential police missing automatic weapon. So I shouldn't own a semi-auto AR-15 with a 30 round MAGAZINE, while the cops irresponsibly lose one of their select fire fully automatics?

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philunderwood

Apr-28-13 8:58 AM

If we must do something, lets require a permit to purchase a gun. The state would maintain a database similar to the no fly list and if anyone’s name is on the list – no permit. This would remove the responsibility for gun dealers and private gun sellers to do background checks.

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nobud74

Apr-28-13 8:42 AM

Rick, libs are not the problem. Their thinking on this is flawed. The problem is criminals. And, until we address the criminal aspect forcefully we will continue to have crime. It is really so simple.

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nobud74

Apr-28-13 8:40 AM

If only the author could articulate how taking away my rights will make her or anyone safer. If only the author could articulate how more laws will suddenly make criminals law abiding.

The rush to just do something, anything is a reactive process that always takes away the liberties of one group in an effort to make another group feel better in that they accomplished something, no matter if that something ultimately turns out to be futile. I think a better and more sensible approach would be for us to invest in better mental health care for those who need it. I think it would be better to educate the populace that mental health issues are a part of life for many people and for the vast majority of those people it is easily controlled and should not come with a stigma. But, no, the left always wants to punish the innocent to prevent the guilty from committing crimes.

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rick424

Apr-28-13 8:37 AM

So libs are the reason for all these shootings?

Great letter, however it was not 58 in Aurora and I do believe they will not be allowed to purchase weapons at the outdoor show in Harrisburg, at least that is what I read. Again, So libs are the problem?

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JohnZook

Apr-28-13 8:30 AM

Prosecute the criminal element and leave law abiding citizens alone. Why anyone would even thing of going after the citizens who obey the law is mind boggling. Disarm the citizenry and ignore the criminals- does anyone else see the insanity in that statement?!

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