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Doing nothing no answer

April 28, 2013

In a LTE published April 19, Mark Weisel writes, “…whatever present form of gun control legislation they vote for, or against would not have made one bit of difference in the Newton, Conn. shooting....

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mikekerstetter

Apr-28-13 6:08 AM

So, ban 30 round clips and they'll carry three 10 round clips, it takes about a second to change out a clip, so what have you really done to stop mass shootings? The answer is nothing. You've done something but the end result is that it will have no effect except to all the rest of us legal, responsible, law abiding gun owners. Truth is that you can inflict more damage with a shotgun at close range than you can a pistol or semiauto rifle.

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Ritty77

Apr-28-13 6:17 AM

"Laws restricting certain gun types and high capacity clips most assuredly would have reduced the lethality and body counts in the Newtown, Aurora, and Tucson gun massacres."

Laws already on the books that prohibit murder were ignored by these shooters, but you assure us that these shooters would follow laws about gun types and magazine sizes.

That's nonsense, of course, and just one item in a letter full of nonsense.

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sideliner

Apr-28-13 6:36 AM

Let's just take homicide off the books. Criminals don't obey that one. While we're at it, remove ****** laws. Apparently all those local dealers and users don't follow that one. That logic is full of nonsense.

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CMReeder

Apr-28-13 6:49 AM

Great Letter!

I agree with it completely. Very well written.

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Ritty77

Apr-28-13 6:51 AM

Since I'm not the one proposing new, worthless laws, your comment is idiotic, Sideliner, as usual.

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RogerMurdock

Apr-28-13 7:32 AM

Yet another excellent example of hysterical, rhetorical sensationalism trying to trump cold hard logic. Nice try, but sorry, no cigar.

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RogerMurdock

Apr-28-13 7:46 AM

There were not 58 fatalities at Aurora. I believe the correct number is 12. Again, nice try.

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CarlHiller

Apr-28-13 8:02 AM

Guns and ammo are not the problem, libs are the problem. Gun Control equals higher crime rates and murder rates. Statistically and historically anti-gun laws have proven to be complete failures time and again. Re-arm Americans and let them take a bite out of crime the old fashion way.

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JohnZook

Apr-28-13 8:30 AM

Prosecute the criminal element and leave law abiding citizens alone. Why anyone would even thing of going after the citizens who obey the law is mind boggling. Disarm the citizenry and ignore the criminals- does anyone else see the insanity in that statement?!

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rick424

Apr-28-13 8:37 AM

So libs are the reason for all these shootings?

Great letter, however it was not 58 in Aurora and I do believe they will not be allowed to purchase weapons at the outdoor show in Harrisburg, at least that is what I read. Again, So libs are the problem?

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nobud74

Apr-28-13 8:40 AM

If only the author could articulate how taking away my rights will make her or anyone safer. If only the author could articulate how more laws will suddenly make criminals law abiding.

The rush to just do something, anything is a reactive process that always takes away the liberties of one group in an effort to make another group feel better in that they accomplished something, no matter if that something ultimately turns out to be futile. I think a better and more sensible approach would be for us to invest in better mental health care for those who need it. I think it would be better to educate the populace that mental health issues are a part of life for many people and for the vast majority of those people it is easily controlled and should not come with a stigma. But, no, the left always wants to punish the innocent to prevent the guilty from committing crimes.

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nobud74

Apr-28-13 8:42 AM

Rick, libs are not the problem. Their thinking on this is flawed. The problem is criminals. And, until we address the criminal aspect forcefully we will continue to have crime. It is really so simple.

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philunderwood

Apr-28-13 8:58 AM

If we must do something, lets require a permit to purchase a gun. The state would maintain a database similar to the no fly list and if anyone’s name is on the list – no permit. This would remove the responsibility for gun dealers and private gun sellers to do background checks.

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BubbaZanetti

Apr-28-13 8:58 AM

Somewhere out there is a fully automatic M16 that is missing from the Philadelphia Police Dept. See: phillyconfidential police missing automatic weapon. So I shouldn't own a semi-auto AR-15 with a 30 round MAGAZINE, while the cops irresponsibly lose one of their select fire fully automatics?

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Tedeaux

Apr-28-13 9:03 AM

The author states that gun control debate is not finished. I ask, why isn't it? Our duly elected representatives in Congress have heard both sides of this debate from the people and have cast their legal vote to maintain the current laws as they are. Get over it or don't complain everytime a conservative congressman offers up legislation to recall all of the liberal laws that have been jammed down our throats in the last four years! Out lawing lawfully purchased weapons will turn law abiding citizens into criminals. Well armed criminals at that. Would that protect anyones life at this point?

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Bufftrev1

Apr-28-13 9:46 AM

Hi nobud.. I'd argue that liberal thinking is not flawed.. I believe it is accurate to say that strong public opinion, validated by polling perhaps as high as 90%, favored passage of this law. It seems as though the liberal thought process is to something, rather than nothing, which seems to yet again be the conservative mindset. It seems as though republicans want the titanic to sink before mandating that there be adequate life boats on board.. have a good day, we're going to reptiland today..

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Ritty77

Apr-28-13 10:00 AM

Those same polls indicate that of those 90%, more than half believe they will have no effect on gun violence.

Gun-control advocates failure to support the proposed legislation with facts that it would have any effect are the reason for its failure in Congress.

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eriklatranyi

Apr-28-13 10:19 AM

Adam Lanza planned his murder spree carefully, hoping to set a record for number of kills.

He chose the school because it was an undefended target with large numbers of people.

But when it is suggested we allow arms in schools, liberals laugh.

Meanwhile, liberals like Bloomberg, Feinstein, Schumer and Obama all have firearms protecting them.

If armed security is good enough for worthless politicians, it is past due we extend it to our children.

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Bufftrev1

Apr-28-13 11:30 AM

Hi ritty.. I think you know that republicans and a few Democrats in gun friendly regions of the country are the reason it didn't pass. It's a shame that people cite previous instances as reasons not to take measures that may prevent future occurances. Conservatives aren't even reactive, let alone proactive unless it involves supporting their core constituency of big business and the wealthy few.

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enigma

Apr-28-13 12:37 PM

"Now, don't you all get a warm and fuzzy feeling knowing that convicted felons can, and no doubt will, be purchasing weapons at the NRA-run Great American Outdoor Show to be held at the Farm Complex in Harrisburg in February 2014 without being prescreened with an instant background check?"

OOPS, a double lie. First, background checks are required for gun sales at gun shows. All sales made by licensed gun dealers require background checks, even at gun shows. Nearly all gun sales at gun shows are by licensed dealers. THERE IS NO GUN SHOW LOOPHOLE! The second lie is that anyone will buy a gun at the NRA event. The NRA does not allow gun sales at there events. Not felons or even law abiding citizens will be buying guns at the NRA outdoor show.

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nobud74

Apr-28-13 2:36 PM

Enjoy Buff. They do a great job. I just finished walking 18 at WD, great fun and exercise. We will have to disagree. I just can't understand why we must punish the law abiding and ignore the current laws that our criminals break. Nobody can demonstrate that such a process will halt illegal activity by criminals.

And if you haven't seen Clyde's butterfly exhibit, we saw it in NY and it was incredible.

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msgjsheets

Apr-28-13 4:23 PM

What it your stance on Abortion Stephanie! If you want to reduce killing, let's limit the number of abortion clinics per state!!

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sideliner

Apr-28-13 6:27 PM

No one has addressed why citizens need all this heavy artillery. I'm reading a lot of selfishness. I want. It's my right. The police have it; so should I. No thought or care about the possible impact on anyone else.

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sideliner

Apr-28-13 6:35 PM

There most definitely a gun show loophole in PA. Only the sale of handguns require background checks and only purchases through a licensed dealer. Private sales are not governed by the same restrictions.

And there most definitely be sales at this NRA sponsored event in 2014 in Harrisburg.

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Ritty77

Apr-28-13 6:38 PM

A semi-automatic weapon with a 30-round magazine equals "all this heavy artillery."

I'm reading a lot of stupidity.

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