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May 10, 2013

I would like to be mayor of South Williamsport for one week. I would soon have codes out in force for all of the broken, uneven sidewalks. You can’t walk a block without almost tripping and falling....

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MrShaman

May-11-13 5:54 AM

"It's called warmer-weather (when black-topping can be done, more-accurately)."

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"8th Ave. is all crumbling and caving in - with those mansions up there and the taxes they likely pay (mine are high enough in the area I live in) I'm surprised they aren't raising a big stink." - JabbaTheHutt

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I'm sure those "mansion"-dwellers appreciate your concern...about their street.

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KrazyK

May-10-13 12:53 PM

Since the influx of gas workers and the additional people to support the industry, speeds have increased on all city roads, country roads and interstates by at least 10 mph. Get used to it! We are no longer a quiet little city nestled in the mountains of Central Pa.

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wwhickok

May-10-13 12:38 PM

@ Citizen X.

First of all, I think there's a misunderstanging here. I don't even own a home so I'm not complaining about something that Burdens me, or suggesting any type of conspiracy, but I do think there's an extreme amount of naivity being applied here.

I can appreciate and fully agree with the issue of home owners essentially being 'tapped out' due to having to replace sewage lines. That's completely understandable.

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InMyOpinion

May-10-13 11:22 AM

I also live I South Side and I agree the sidewalks can be in horrible condition in some areas BUT the roads are even worse! Everywhere you go there are potholes and high bumps. Sewer pipe repairs have been going on for years and still no end in sight. The major problem with sidewalks are the trees. There are huge trees between the walk and street that up-heave the sidewalk. Also, you have to "ask" the borough for permission to remove these trees. I'm sure they charge some permit fee to do this too. So Donna, if you are so concerned about the safety of your walk, go to the pool complex or the river walk. Get in your car, drive to your destination and walk safely. At least the next time you complain it will be about the terrible roads needing fixed. Then everyone might agree with your comments. Otherwise, call Mayor Dave, I'm sure he will sit down and talk to you.

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JabbaTheHutt

May-10-13 11:14 AM

"It's called warmer-weather (when black-topping can be done, more-accurately)."

Not the fault of the weather. Most of these roads have been in piss-poor shape (incase the word censor gets me that is P eye ss Poor) for many years (10 or better maybe). The sewer jobs have just compounded things that much more. 8th Ave. is all crumbling and caving in - with those mansions up there and the taxes they likely pay (mine are high enough in the area I live in) I'm surprised they aren't raising a big stink.

Nope, when it comes to our roads getting repaired and repaired properly - I'll believe it when I see it. Heck, the State paved Southern Ave. last year and what happened? They dug it up pretty soon after right there near the Fisher St. intersection. Good planning on someone's part.

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CitizenX

May-10-13 8:44 AM

wwhickok--yup, sure enough. The whole sidewalk responsibility thing is just another conspiracy theory. Another way for the government to screw you over and blame the 'little guy' for all the ills of the world. So you better make sure you have your tinfoil hat on to protect yourself.

But in the meantime, to any sane and reasonable person, of course Carl Hiller is exactly 100% correct. And probably down the line a bit, once homeowners have a chance to get that sewer expense paid off and breath a little, the sidewalks will get repaired.

In the meantime, if that's the biggest worry and complaint you have in life, consider yourself very blessed.

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MrShaman

May-10-13 8:06 AM

"I'm afraid it will take nothing short of a miracle to see any paving happening on South Williamsport's streets." - JabbaTheHutt

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It's called warmer-weather (when black-topping can be done, more-accurately).

There ARE some people who consider the changing-of-the-seasons a "miracle", so...that's been covered.

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MrShaman

May-10-13 8:01 AM

"I would like to be mayor of South Williamsport for one week. I would soon have codes out in force for all of the broken, uneven sidewalks. You can't walk a block without almost tripping and falling." - Donna J. Lambert

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...And, yet, there are STILL people who think it's a "pretty good idea" planting (new) trees between the curb and sidewalk!

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wwhickok

May-10-13 8:01 AM

Carl, I mainly was disagreeing with the idea that is even SHOULD be the responsibility of the sidewalks, I could understand if you're talking about the pathways to their house but when it comes to the city sidewalks, let's face it, that's just the cities way of burdening the citizens with increased cost and unwarranted responsibility and a way for codes to blame someone other than themselves.

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CarlHiller

May-10-13 7:18 AM

wwhickok - While I do not disagree that it may not be the homeowners fault, they are ultimately responsible for the repair of their sidewalks. I was only stating that there are other factors involved and that to press homeowners to repair something that costs a great deal to fix may be a financial burden to great at this point for many of those homeowners after having to replace many sewer lines that costs thousands of dollars per homeowner.

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wwhickok

May-10-13 6:52 AM

Carl, sorry but I have to disagree with you. I actually complained recently about the same issue here in Williamsport. It's existed for a long time. More specifically, take a trip up into Newberry, on Newberry St, the sidewalks are literally slanted. West End 4th St, same way, trees are uprooting the sidewalks. It's not the fault of the home owners, they didn't put the darn trees in, they didn't even put the darn sidewalks in, so to point the finger at the homeowners.. give me a break. Codes can kiss my *** when it comes to blaming homeowners for the problem. It's the responsibility of the city to make sure the sidewalks are in quality condition.

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CarlHiller

May-10-13 6:14 AM

Another bellyacher, did you ever think for one moment that the nearly $10,000.00 many homeowners have had to spend to fix sewer pipes required by the gov may have something to do with why so many are in disrepair. I know, I have 2 that are a direct result of neighbors having to replace piping that were fine up till the excavation. Pick your feet up, drive a little slower and quit the whining, many will fix their sidewalks when the funds are available.

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JabbaTheHutt

May-10-13 5:32 AM

At least if codes was out in force to get the sidewalks repaired it would be the homeowner's job to get it done or face fines. I'd like to see them fix our roads over here. Driving most anywhere in South Williamsport requires an off-road suspension. We've ruined a set of 4 new tires on our Sonata within about 2 years from driving down Kaiser and Fisher Streets near our home, Mountain Ave. and Maynard Street too. Many of these roads were in "bad" shape before all the sewer stuff. Now that they've been dug and patched in numerous places for sewer laterals it's ridiculous. I'm afraid it will take nothing short of a miracle to see any paving happening on South Williamsport's streets.

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