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Disheartened

May 19, 2013

It is disheartening and demotivating to read and hear the constant barrage of negatives being heaped on our schools, our teachers and administrators, and especially our children and young people....

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CMReeder

May-19-13 6:14 PM

Great letter, too bad some don't understand.

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eriklatranyi

May-19-13 7:48 AM

So, if I don't do the politically correct thing -- and waste space -- to say that there are some good teachers, then my entire post is invalid?

It is the educational SYSTEM that ***** today.

Texas is right, parents are a massive part and they are failing.

Again -- there are some good parents.

We have a multilevel bureaucracy with Washington DC, your state, your district and finally your school administrators all imposing their "wishes" onto the teachers.....and students.

Universities today are forced to spend more and more time educating students on topics that should have been covered in high school. Congrats, America....you get to pay twice for the same education!

Graduates come into the workforce with an entitlement mentality, rather than humility for those who have succeeded despite the ups and downs in any job.

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CarlHiller

May-19-13 7:47 AM

I'm with you on this one USABorn. Since my 12 year old son has been in school, I have met some fantastic teachers but I have met many who are not and should be removed from teaching children. I have talked to many of those who "teach", but do not teach, and their is always an air of arrogance with them knowing that they will not be removed from the position. I have had teachers who complain they do not make enough and should be entitled to a raise, or that the local taxpayers are selfish, and I always point out that this is the only profession I know of where many of you so called teachers only put in the 9 months/ 7 hr a day and still make 50 G's a year with a full benie pkg and loads of time off in and out of school. I do not begrudge those who actually teach and give more effort in the education of children, I'd love to see those make much more, but I'd also like to see the dead weights removed.

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USABorn

May-19-13 7:38 AM

mikekerstetter - 5:49 AM

"So, it's your opinion, USA, that teachers are stupid slackers that couldn't make it in other majors?"

A number of years ago, TIME MAGAZINE did a study and found that the average GPA of a "graduating teacher" was 2.2, and that indeed, a large number of them had "dropped down" to teaching from a more difficult curriculum.

When I went to school, teachers were so lowly paid, that they really did go into teaching because they actually wanted to teach!

I said that being able to voice classroom discourse in one subject does not make one highly educated. And pleaase tell us what all of the difference topics and subjects are that a teacher must be adept at.

I've picked my granddaughter up at school many times. The teachers are virtually running over them getting out of the school at the end of classes. And I've heard many people complain of this.

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sideliner

May-19-13 7:29 AM

"It is the same in every profession." - spike

Thanks, Spike, for saying that. It seems to me that educators are being singled out here and held to a somewhat higher standard than any other profession.

Teachers are continually being educated. I know because I was one. I taught technology and had to be current. That meant ongoing research, trainings, classes, etc. All on my own time.

"Before you state your well-informed opinions, USA, collect your facts, disseminate your data and then, make your inferences. Your obvious dislike for college-education causes you to appear "goofy" to us." - radioactive

Don't hold your breath waiting for that to happen. I don't know how long you've been posting here, but we've been waiting a long time for USABorn to do just that, and I for one, have given up looking for fact based, logical, discussion and thought provoking posts from USA. Period. And "goofy" is putting it rather mildly.

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USABorn

May-19-13 7:19 AM

radioactive - 6:46 AM

"USA: Sorry to hear your dental student daughter is "down-in-the-mouth" about her career choice."

Where did you get the idea she is "down-in-the-mouth?" She has been practicing since 1998, and she and her partner employ 35 people! Her police work evenings/week-ends is (in addition to pro bono dental work) just another way she "gives back" to her community. She takes no pay for it.

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spike2

May-19-13 7:06 AM

does this only apply to K-12, U.S.A.? What about professors? You do know a Ph.D takes longer than Dental School. of course there are good and bad, some folks have Doc's who graduated in the bottom of the class. It is the same in every profession.

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ToTEXASfromPA

May-19-13 6:58 AM

There are under-performers in business and under-performing educators. There need to be mechanisms so that they can improve; and if not, they are out.

Concerning elem and high school teachers, they don't need doctorates. And just because they might have a masters or doctorate doesn't mean they would make a good teacher.

Parents are still a big part of the success of the education system. They need to hold the school board and principals to high standards of education; how do their school's SAT's compare with the better schools in the state? Parents need to promote high expectations with their children and set up quiet study places for them to do homework. Turn off the TV, computer games, face booking and smart phones for several hours each night.

Bribe the children to do well. Pay them some money for A's.

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mikekerstetter

May-19-13 5:49 AM

So, it's your opinion, USA, that teachers are stupid slackers that couldn't make it in other majors? What a pitiful opinion you hold.

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USABorn

May-19-13 2:18 AM

I have no idea why that comment printed....

Too many students that couldn't make it in their chosen profession, changed DOWN to an easier choice, i.e., engineer to teacher, pre-med to teacher, etc.

I actually heard students say they wanted to be teachers so they would only have to work 9 months a year.

Many took "cake" courses as often as possible, to get their degrees. If you've been to college you know exactly what that is.

Being competent in one subject, does not make you highly educated.

Both my sons are educated.

My daughter is highly educated. With an Associates in Applied Science in Radiology Technology, a BA in Biology Pre-Med (majors in bio and spanish, minors in chem and math), ALWAYS in the top 1% of her class. and finally, a DMD from Temple Dental School. Graduated with 12 awards. She is also a graduate of the police academy in Ohio. A former military officer, widely traveled. Yes, that is highly educated.

NOT someone who does okay in one subject

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USABorn

May-19-13 1:56 AM

"The majority of employees in our schools are highly educated, in many cases with as much education and/or experience as their managers."

So a person who teaches history or math, is highly intelligent simply because they teach a subject?

I spent a lot of time around colleges with my 3 children who went, plus the time I spent there, I beg to differ.

First, I saw too many students that couldn't make it hange DOWN

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USABorn

May-19-13 1:56 AM

"The majority of employees in our schools are highly educated, in many cases with as much education and/or experience as their managers."

So a person who teaches history or math, is highly intelligent simply because they teach a subject?

I spent a lot of time around colleges with my 3 children who went, plus the time I spent there, I beg to differ.

First, I saw too many students that couldn't make it hange DOWN

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