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Past the tipping point?

May 22, 2013

Pollutants like carbon dioxide trap heat in our atmosphere and keep it from entering space. They cause increases in temperature that are destroying our planet before our very eye....

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MBardo

May-22-13 2:58 AM

According to the BBC "Since 1998, there has been an unexplained "standstill" in the heating of the Earth's atmosphere."

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mikekerstetter

May-22-13 3:40 AM

"For the first time in human history, this past year, the daily average of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere surpassed the dangerous threshold of 400 parts per million as measured on top of the Mauna Lao in Hawaii. The last time that happened was 3 to 5 million years ago when human beings did not exist."-Tim Mannello

I just have to ask..... Who was around taking those measurements?

Of course, it's a rhetorical question as there were no humans and no equipment at the time to measure the atmosphere. So what you have is science, not based on absolute fact, but on theory, or, more accurately, an 'educated guess'. So, you take this educated guess, use it as fact and tell us we have the highest levels of CO2 in billions of years and we are all going to be extinct. And then you tell us it's all our fault for using fossil fuels.

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mikekerstetter

May-22-13 3:46 AM

There is a problem with your theory, though. If it's true that we're at the same levels as billions of years ago before we were here burning fossil fuels, how do you know it's the burning of fossil fuels that is causing the current problem and not some natural atmospheric occurrence and how do you know we are 'past the tipping point' of being able to recover?

Sorry, Tim, but I believe there is just too much guessing going on in your theory. Yes, climate change is upon us. But I see no evidence that suggests it's anything more than natural changes that the earth goes through.

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richardson

May-22-13 4:55 AM

Plants need CO2 to grow. When plants grow they give off O2 which we breathe. That should be learned in HS earth sciences or biology. Designating life enabling CO2 as a pollutant is a lie with the political purpose of strengthening govt. control.

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gavinf56

May-22-13 5:24 AM

The CO2 emissions per individual in the US has dropped to early 1990 levels.

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gavinf56

May-22-13 5:42 AM

The US now leads the world in CO2 emissions reduction.

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MrShaman

May-22-13 5:52 AM

"So what you have is science, not based on absolute fact, but on theory, or, more accurately, an 'educated guess'. So, you take this educated guess, use it as fact and tell us we have the highest levels of CO2 in billions of years and we are all going to be extinct. And then you tell us it's all our fault for using fossil fuels." - mikekerstetter

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Well...Tim Mannello, AND Richard Muller...one o' those folks who'd jumped (from your "camp"), after doing the actual WORK, required, to PROVE science trumps laziness (of thought/concern). *

See:

Climate Skeptic Richard Muller Admits Global Warming Is Real And Humans Are The Cause (YouTube)

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Tedeaux

May-22-13 5:55 AM

If what is stated is true, what is the viable solution to this massive problem? We are a race of billions heavily dependant on fossil fuels for our very existence. The only viable solution is to reduce the numbers of humans on Earth to a more manageable level as to reduce our emissions levels.

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WKnapp

May-22-13 6:01 AM

What we really need to control is excessive hydrogen monoxide. High hydrogen monoxide levels in the body causes excessive persperation and a bloated feeling. In the atmosphere, it causes precipitation, sometimes leading to flooding conditions or, in winter, blizzards. Yep, that darned hydrogen monoxide is a real threat! Does nobody remember the sixties, when these pollutants were blocking out the sunlight, supposedly leading to a new ice-age? According to the scientists of those days, by now we were supposed to be buried under at least a hundred feet of glacier here in North America, before Y2K. What's wrong with people who will believe and give credence to every extreme and difficult to believe theory that is foisted on us? Just because it sounds scientific doesn't mean it's any more than a power grab.

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ToTEXASfromPA

May-22-13 6:02 AM

So during the ice age 10,000 to 20,000 years ago, Williamsport was at the southern edge of the glaciers. What large usage of fossil fuels caused them to melt and disappear? I think that it is just natural cycles in the earth's climate and weather.

Carbon tax is just another way to take money from the middle class and get it into the hands of the ultra rich. They help create a paranoia to get laws passed so that their investments and companies make more money.

I do agree that we need to be good stewards of what natural resources we use and not waste a lot of energy.

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VinceKnauff

May-22-13 6:06 AM

I agree with Wayne's proposal here. But he misidentified the pollutant he was referring to was actually dihydrogen monixide. It's true that the temperature of the earth is more closely related to the amount of dihydrogen monoxide in the atmosphere than any other cause. Liberals that truly believe in this cause should focus their efforts on dihydrogen monoxide, not the much less significant carbon dioxide.

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MrShaman

May-22-13 6:06 AM

"There is a problem with your theory, though." - mikekerstetter

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You mean...the simple-fact it's MORE than a theory??

You'd (actually) denying the data that $UPER CAPITALI$T$ financed??!!!

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See:

Koch-Funded Study Finds 'Global Warming Is Real'

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ToTEXASfromPA

May-22-13 6:07 AM

"What we really need to control is excessive hydrogen monoxide."

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I believe that you meant to say di-hydrogen monoxide.

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VinceKnauff

May-22-13 6:10 AM

And breaking news to all you Liberals here. Warming of the earth has been stagnant for the last 15 years. Read the BBC story on that subject that reveals that even though CO2 levels have risen the temperature has not. The "scientists" that have hung their reputations on the theory that CO2 is directly tied to temperature must be wrong. Sorry you warmers. Your hoax has been laid bare. Try something else.

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MrShaman

May-22-13 6:13 AM

"Designating life enabling CO2 as a pollutant is a lie with the political purpose of strengthening govt. control." - richardson

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...Brought-to-you by those "evil"-scientists, right??

See:

CO2 and Heat-Trapping Gases FAQ | Union of Concerned Scientists

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MrShaman

May-22-13 6:19 AM

"The only viable solution is to reduce the numbers of humans on Earth to a more manageable level as to reduce our emissions levels." - Tedeaux

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Ah, yes...and, we could designate the "lucky"-ones (who'd dodged extermination) a Master Race!!

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ToTEXASfromPA

May-22-13 6:21 AM

Tim, you want grandchildren; that is the problem since more people lead to more green house gases.

Maybe we should sterilize 90 % of the world and only have selective breeders.

Less abortions, less green house gas generators, less encroachment in forests, less agricultural lands with loss of topsoils to rivers, and less people to support the older people in the socialist programs of Obamacare, Social Security and Medicare.

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MrShaman

May-22-13 6:26 AM

"According to the scientists of those days, by now we were supposed to be buried under at least a hundred feet of glacier here in North America, before Y2K." - WKnapp

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I'm guessing you (merely) "forgot" the names o' "the scientists of those days"...or, you'd have mentioned them...right??

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MrShaman

May-22-13 6:37 AM

"Maybe we should sterilize 90% of the world and only have selective breeders." - ToTEXASfromPA

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...As-long-as they're (the "proper") faith-based breeders, right???

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See:

Biblical Intolerance

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CMReeder

May-22-13 7:01 AM

Nice to see Mr. Mannello is writing again. I see the right still is ignoring the obvious.

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rick424

May-22-13 7:06 AM

Ahhhh, the deniers are out in force today. Global warming is real, the CEO of Exxon said so, and the insurance industry believes in it also. We just have to adapt as he said. You on the right, keep working with the Koch brothers so you can buy more politicians (Corbet) and keep working on the war against green energies. Let the future generations worry about it. After all, you will be dead and gone and really won't care, I believe that is the rights way of thinking.

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VinceKnauff

May-22-13 7:12 AM

You would think that the Liberals would be happy with the news that temperatures have not risen for the last 15 years. Because they are obviously not you have to conclude that stopping the temperature rise must not be the result they are after.

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eriklatranyi

May-22-13 7:25 AM

We know for certain that global warming has increased the amount of green in Al Gore's bank account.

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gavinf56

May-22-13 7:26 AM

The US is already well on the way to meeting the CO2 emissions goals established by the Kyoto Protocol (which the US never agreed to) making Mr. Mannelo's ever partisan letter a mute point.

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rick424

May-22-13 7:35 AM

Keep denying, I am enjoying this. So refreshing over that stupid gun control debate. The right, such an entertaining bunch. I have a lot of ordering to do today so I be back from time to time to see more.

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