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May 31, 2013

In reading the article titled "Christian school is being criticized over dinosaur test" in the Religion section of 5/25, I felt sad to learn there are some people who feel other people aren't......

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rick424

May-31-13 1:02 AM

You should read the test, it is quite amusing.

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CarlHiller

May-31-13 5:30 AM

And the leftist jackals circle the prey. Always they preach tolerance bit they themselves have none.

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JabbaTheHutt

May-31-13 5:58 AM

I went to a local Christian School many years ago - my mother made me go; she said I was coming home from Steven's Elementary with too many words she didn't know.

That Christian School screwed me up more than anything. Thank goodness I only stayed there for 4 years and got to go to Loyalsock Twp. High School to finish out, but the damage to my psyche was already done and took years to get over.

You know what I learned in 5th Grade, my first year at the Christian School? Our teacher told us around Christmas time that we shouldn't believe in Santa because you can rearrange the letters in Santa to spell Satan - she even demonstrated it on the chalk board. Yeah, that's the only thing I really walked away from the Christian School experience with.

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JabbaTheHutt

May-31-13 6:00 AM

I often wish I could go back in time and possess my younger body with my current consciousness. I'd love to sit there in that classroom again during that lecture about Santa/Satan and say say - Gee Teach! I guess with your logic I shouldn't believe in God either because I can rearrange the letters in God to spell Dog, and we all know how silly that would be to worship a dog, right?

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rick424

May-31-13 6:23 AM

OK, read the test and see of you get a 100 %. Remember, they had to get a hundred.

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CMReeder

May-31-13 7:24 AM

The religious right wing likes being ignorant.

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ToTEXASfromPA

May-31-13 7:38 AM

Whether someone is an atheist, evolutionist, young earth creationist or old earth creationist, there are unexplained elements in their hypotheses on how the earth was created. Each group requires a level of faith.

I would hope that people would be honest and say something like "I don't know or I can't explain it; nevertheless, I still believe a certain way". Instead, they whole-heartedly adopt a paradigm and then unrationally try to make everything fit into it or just ignore the discrepancies.

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ToTEXASfromPA

May-31-13 7:43 AM

JabbaTheHutt,

You burst my bubble; I though Santa was real and now you are telling me that you learned in school that he isn't. :-)

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spike2

May-31-13 8:18 AM

How do you disagree with Jabba when he is relating a personal life experience? You could argue the difference in Christian schools now, your own experience in such a school but you can not dispute the life experience of another.

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SilverFeather

May-31-13 8:30 AM

I have to agree with Spike2. We were raised in a very strict Catholic home. Both of my children were raised Catholic. When I found out my first child was baptized by the priest that molested my brother (ten years afterwards), I totally rejected the Catholic church. NOT for being the Catholic church, but for the entire church-wide conspiracy and cover up. We later learned that very priest was reported and moved around to different parishes multiple times and is now living in a retirement home for priests. It's just sad and there really isn't anything more to say. Pope Francis seems like a move in the right direction.

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enoughalready

May-31-13 8:48 AM

So you belived the whole Bible Elaine? Guess that means you've never eaten shellfish, nor worn mixed fabric?

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JabbaTheHutt

May-31-13 8:51 AM

Thanks for the support spike! I was kind of confused by the disagrees on my post as well. It's a true story and I have a lot of resentment over my mom taking us out of public school back in the early 80's and making us go to that Christian school. My wife and I moved out of Williamsport to South Williamsport just before our child started school because we wanted a smaller district and I vowed I did not want to uproot my kid from a school where all your friends are and you have invested a lot of yourself over several years. I know how damaging it is to be pulled out of a school and thrown into a strange place and how uncomfortable it is. Then feeling that same discomfort when you finally escape from that place and get back into public school. It messed me up socially for many years.

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philunderwood

May-31-13 8:55 AM

If one prefers a religious foundation for their child’s education, they have every right to send them to a religious school or home school them. Public school curriculum should be limited to teaching what is factual.

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CMReeder

May-31-13 9:17 AM

But Phil they pay taxes and therefore have a say in what is taught even if it is not facual. Because God is the truth and so is the Bible.

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ToTEXASfromPA

May-31-13 9:29 AM

"Guess that means you've never eaten shellfish, nor worn mixed fabric?"-enoughalready

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These are part of the instructions that were given specifically to the Israelites, not all the peoples of the rest of the earth. For instance Leviticus 11:2 starts with the words “Speak to the sons of Israel, saying, ‘These are the creatures which you may eat from all the animals that are on the earth.".

These were part of the dietary laws, laws of offering, and other instructions that were used to show the nation of Israel was chosen or set-apart.

New Testament instructions to the church (J e w s and non-J e w s) showed that it was okay to eat these things.

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ToTEXASfromPA

May-31-13 9:47 AM

"but for the entire church-wide conspiracy and cover up."--SilverFeather

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Sad situation. These are cases where the incidence should have been reported to the legal authorities and dealt with appropriately. This is a case of violating the natural law, the moral law (in addition to God's Word) that are there to protect the innocent and young. This shows how sin can spread like cancer in an organization and should be dealt with swiftly.

God/Jesus is holy, righteous, pure, and good. His bride, the church, should also strive to be like him. It is important to pray for protection for our church leaders from evil and also hold them accountable if they break the law. In addition, church leaders have a calling that requires a level of accountability that is more difficult than just the law.

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spike2

May-31-13 10:35 AM

So certain religious dietary directives apply only to those of Israeli origin. What blood percentage disqualifies an individual from adhering to this directive?

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ToTEXASfromPA

May-31-13 2:07 PM

"What blood percentage disqualifies an individual from adhering to this directive?"---spike2

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I didn't know that blood percentage was a criteria.

For the last two thousand years, other foods can be eaten.

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SilverFeather

May-31-13 2:54 PM

ToTEXASfromPA, just replying, not arguing. I have spoken to my brother and we both believe if he would have said anything to our parents, he would have been disciplined. You just didn't say bad things about the priest, that's the way we were raised. We doubt our parents would have believed it and we do thank God they never found out about it. It would have crushed them.

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ToTEXASfromPA

May-31-13 6:22 PM

SilverFeather,

I understand. My comment was not to cast blame at your brother nor the other victims.

I seems these behaviors become more prominent in our society; we need to continue to take more precautions with children to protect them.

When I was involved as a Boy Scout leader, we were constantly making sure that there was never a private (in doors or out) one on on time with a child and adult. You either had multiple people present or discussions with boys were in the public when others were close by.

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mikekerstetter

May-31-13 7:21 PM

philunderwood-"Public school curriculum should be limited to teaching what is factual."

Phil, I agree. But that means that a lot of what they teach regarding the origins of the universe and evolution/Darwinism couldn't be taught because it is based on supposition and not facts.

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mikekerstetter

May-31-13 7:26 PM

CMReeder-"Because God is the truth and so is the Bible."

Chuck, I couldn't agree with that statement more.

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spike2

May-31-13 7:27 PM

Texas - my point was there are still Israeli's and Israeli's who have married and mixed with other tribes if you will. At what point are you not a child of Israel? Help me out here, God is married to the church, the Nuns are married to God, the Priest is married to the church or God? The Old Testament is more or less out like purgatory and the New Testament is the whole shabang. Paradise Lost made far more sense.

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mikekerstetter

May-31-13 7:33 PM

enoughalready-"So you belived the whole Bible Elaine? Guess that means you've never eaten shellfish, nor worn mixed fabric?"

That is a well worn argument every time someone disagrees with a Christian. While it IS in the Bible, they fail to understand what it was for and why it no longer applies.

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spike2

May-31-13 9:25 PM

So Mike - you believe there was an immaculate conception? If your daughter (hypothetically) came home, said she was pregnant and it was an immaculate conception, would you believe her?

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