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Coal industry siege

June 1, 2013

The Obama Administration seems intent on destroying the coal industry in America – an industry that provides almost half of the nation`s power....

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Shulski

Jun-05-13 4:44 AM

What? I'm from Mount Carmel, and if they banned coal mining, I'd be happy. That place is filthy. And where do you get this statistic, "half the nation's power comes from coal"? That sounds like some lie the coal industry cooked up. Personally, growing up in the coal region, I'd tell you coal is way worse than natural gas. Go with natural gas.

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CaveFelem

Jun-02-13 8:14 AM

I'm surprised people are allowed to continue to heat their homes with coal. Their chimneys have no scrubbers of any type. Everything just goes up and out into the atmosphere.

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USABorn

Jun-01-13 10:00 PM

MrShaman - 10:43 AM

"Jerry- You remember El Presidente saying," If you try to build a new coal plant, I will shut you down and bankrupt you," - JohnZook"

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"No...and, neither do you."

"NEXT??!!!"

Obama's actual quote:

"So, if somebody wants to build a coal plant, they can — it’s just that it will bankrupt them, because they are going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted."

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spike2

Jun-01-13 6:10 PM

Erik - you are full of it. We all know you prefer natural gas by any means necessary.

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MrShaman

Jun-01-13 1:36 PM

"There wet scrubbers remove sulfur dioxide, a major cause of acid rain, by spraying flue gas with limestone and water. The mixture reacts with the sulfur dioxide to form synthetic gypsum, a component of drywall. This gypsum is transported by conveyor to United States Gypsum, which is located adjacent to the power plant, and used to make drywall. It is a win win situation for everyone." - GysgtUSMC

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That seems awfully-more labor-intensive (not to mention caustic), than GROWING such building-materials.

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See:

How Hemp Is Used for Food, Clothing, Building Materials and In Cars Like Lotus (YouTube)

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GysgtUSMC

Jun-01-13 11:58 AM

There has been a lot of progress regarding the use of coal to produce electricity cleanly and efficiently. There is such a method being used here locally at the Washingtonville power plant. There wet scrubbers remove sulfur dioxide, a major cause of acid rain, by spraying flue gas with limestone and water. The mixture reacts with the sulfur dioxide to form synthetic gypsum, a component of drywall. This gypsum is transported by conveyor to United States Gypsum, which is located adjacent to the power plant, and used to make drywall. It is a win win situation for everyone.

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CMReeder

Jun-01-13 11:30 AM

I see Mike you don't want cleaner air to breathe.

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JohnZook

Jun-01-13 11:26 AM

Shama-lama-ding-dong@10:43- c'mon, where's your magical mystery research? Oh, I did it for you..... Jan. 17, 2008, the candidate didn't lie for once when talking to the San Francisco Chronicle. And guess what?!! It's on your beloved You-Tube!!!!

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MrShaman

Jun-01-13 10:47 AM

Liberal modus operandi.. yah, Bush and Cheney never falsified intelligence to take the country to war so halliburton could get no bid war contracts.. in Erik's mind, apparently, the Iraq war never happened." - Bufftrev1

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Absolutely...AND, it's "never" been documented...much like Neo-Nazis insist, regarding the extermination o' the Jewish-population.

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See:

Iraq For Sale - Full Movie (YouTube)

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MrShaman

Jun-01-13 10:43 AM

Jerry- You remember El Presidente saying," If you try to build a new coal plant, I will shut you down and bankrupt you," - JohnZook

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No...and, neither do you.

NEXT??!!!

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MrShaman

Jun-01-13 10:40 AM

CMReeder-"So it has nothing to do with all the drilling for GAS and the switch to much cheaper and supposedly cleaner fuel. The coal industry was out competed by the gas industry."

The cost of coal isn't a factor. It's the cost to comply with all the EPA regulations that make it cheaper to build and operate gas plants." - mikekerstetter

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...And, then, there's always...

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See:

Regulations Create Jobs, Too - Businessweek

"Cal Lockert, the vice-president of Breen Energy Solutions, a Pittsburgh manufacturer of equipment that absorbs acid gases to keep them from spilling out of smokestacks. Lockert spends his days persuading power companies that he can help them bring some of their oldest, dirtiest plants in line with the federal requirements. There’s been “a frenzy of engineering firms and utilities” calling him for demonstrations of his products, he says. He’s HIRED A DOZEN PEOPLE in the past month and says he’s JUST GETTING STARTED."

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MrShaman

Jun-01-13 10:20 AM

"I don't understand. I thought we had "green coal" now. The billboards all along I-80 say we do. Are the billboards wrong?" - JerryfromRI

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Hey....Dead-O-Heads & FAUX Noise fans will believe (nearly) anything. Unfortunately, too-many (of them) have literacy-issues...which explains their need for oral-transmission of each day's "news". Expecting them to "digest" billboard-info was more-than-likely the result of flawed-intelligence.

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MrShaman

Jun-01-13 9:58 AM

"Those who say the Obama administration isn't targeting the coal industry aren't being realistic." - mikekerstetter

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Yeah...those "poor" coal-mine owners.

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As U.S. Cleans Its Energy Mix, It Ships Coal Problems Abroad (National Geographic)

"The U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA) released data this week showing that United States coal exports hit a record 126 million short tons in 2012, a 17 percent increase over the previous year."

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Ritty77

Jun-01-13 8:58 AM

" REMEMBER THE BENGHAZI FOUR!!!!"

Good thing Chuck's in the garden so he doesn't see this blatant thread hijacking. But he'll be back and boy are you gonna get it.

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Bufftrev1

Jun-01-13 8:46 AM

Johnzook.. remember the Iraq four THOUSAND....

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Bufftrev1

Jun-01-13 8:45 AM

Liberal modus operandi.. yah, Bush and Cheney never falsified intelligence to take the country to war so halliburton could get no bid war contracts.. in Erik's mind, apparently, the Iraq war never happened.

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JohnZook

Jun-01-13 8:43 AM

Jerry- You remember El Presidente saying," If you try to build a new coal plant, I will shut you down and bankrupt you," During the campaign, he said he was for "clean coal." Just another of the CONTINUING LIES from the Liar In Chief. At least only a war was fought by President Bush. Obama and the Commie Pinkos killed the Constitution and a once great nation. REMEMBER THE BENGHAZI FOUR!!!!

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BornHere

Jun-01-13 8:39 AM

I know that the coal that is being produced in Wyoming is being exported to Asian countries and the demand for coal has increased since 2011.

Demand for coal in the US has declined because of Natural Gas discoveries and the Clean Air Act.

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mikekerstetter

Jun-01-13 8:16 AM

CMReeder-"So it has nothing to do with all the drilling for GAS and the switch to much cheaper and supposedly cleaner fuel. The coal industry was out competed by the gas industry."

The cost of coal isn't a factor. It's the cost to comply with all the EPA regulations that make it cheaper to build and operate gas plants.

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JerryfromRI

Jun-01-13 7:39 AM

I don't understand. I thought we had "green coal" now. The billboards all along I-80 say we do. Are the billboards wrong?

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CMReeder

Jun-01-13 7:10 AM

So it has nothing to do with all the drilling for GAS and the switch to much cheaper and supposedly cleaner fuel. The coal industry was out competed by the gas industry.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Jun-01-13 7:04 AM

The EPA would rather have windmills stretching along Bald Eagle Mountain. Their leaders all own stock in GE.

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farmer

Jun-01-13 7:00 AM

"This is evident in new coal plants that have lower emissions that are 70 to 90 percent cleaner than the plants they replace, and progress is being made on near-zero emission levels."

And the utility companies have done this voluntarily?????

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eriklatranyi

Jun-01-13 6:56 AM

Spike:

I favor natural gas replacing coal the honest way.....through competition and free markets.....not through crony capitalism of green energy subsidies and regulatory abuse.....which is the liberal modus operandi.

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mikekerstetter

Jun-01-13 6:52 AM

I agree. We need, and should continue using, coal for our nation's energy needs until a clean, affordable renewable energy is found. Those who say the Obama administration isn't targeting the coal industry aren't being realistic.

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